Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 03:11 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:11 PM Hundreds wounded after pagers detonate in Lebanon, media and security officials say APNEWS.COM A Hezbollah official tells The Associated Press that “several hundred” people, including members of the group, were wounded in different parts of Lebanon when their handheld pagers exploded. Quote Dozens of people, including Iran’s ambassador, were wounded in Beirut’s suburbs and other parts of Lebanon after their handheld pagers exploded Tuesday, according to media reports and security officials. It wasn’t immediately clear if people were killed. A senior military intelligence official and an official with a Lebanese group with knowledge of the situation, both of whom spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation, said that pagers carried by Hezbollah members were detonated. The second official said it was believed to be an Israeli attack. The Associated Press reached out to the Israeli military, which declined to comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted Tuesday at 03:14 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:14 PM Quite literally a blast from the past! 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted Tuesday at 03:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:21 PM 6 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Quite literally a blast from the past! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted Tuesday at 03:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:22 PM Got some cellphones to sell them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted Tuesday at 03:23 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:23 PM I’ll drink to that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted Tuesday at 03:29 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:29 PM That's some spy thriller novel shit, right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted Tuesday at 03:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:39 PM A lot of drug dealers in Lebanon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 03:44 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 03:44 PM 4 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: A lot of drug dealers in Lebanon? Drug economy in Lebanon - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM I saw a video of this on Reddit, thought it was just some random dude who's pager battery failed. Crazy that this seems like some sort of organized plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 03:48 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 03:48 PM 2 minutes ago, ThreePi said: Crazy that this seems like some sort of organized plot. This operation appears to have had Hezbollah personnel as its primary target, so it really doesn't take much imagination to surmise who might be responsible. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 03:51 PM The AP has updated its story to reflect information from the Lebanese government that at least eight people have been killed (including a 10 year-old girl) and more than 2,750 injured. A wave of exploding pagers in Lebanon and Syria kills at least 8, including members of Hezbollah APNEWS.COM Hezbollah officials tell The Associated Press that at least two of its members and a girl were killed, and several hundred were wounded, when the new brand of pagers used by the militant group exploded across Lebanon and Syria. Quote Hundreds of handheld pagers exploded near simultaneously across Lebanon and in parts of Syria on Tuesday, killing at least eight people, including members of the militant group Hezbollah and a girl, and wounding the Iranian ambassador, government and Hezbollah officials said. Officials pointed the finger at Israel in what appeared to be a sophisticated, remote attack that wounded more than 2,700 people at a time of rising tensions across the Lebanon border. The Israeli military declined to comment. A Hezbollah official who spoke on condition of anonymity told The Associated Press that the new brand of handheld pagers used by the group first heated up, then exploded, killing at least two of its members and wounding others. Lebanon’s health minister, Firas Abiad, said at least eight people were killed and 2,750 wounded — 200 of them critically. Iranian state-run IRNA news agency said that the country’s ambassador, Mojtaba Amani, was superficially wounded by an exploding pager and was being treated at a hospital. Photos and videos from Beirut’s southern suburbs circulating on social media and in local media showed people lying on the pavement with wounds on their hands or near their pants pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:55 PM 10 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Drug economy in Lebanon - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG I will run with @Mr.Vic20's joke and say, "A literal war on drugs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted Tuesday at 03:56 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 03:56 PM 31 minutes ago, TUFKAK said: I’ll drink to that What? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM 22 minutes ago, Best said: What? Iranian ambassador Hezbollah members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:20 PM I'm really confused how this would have gone down. Two ideas: Israel manufactured a type of pager with a small explosive, and then used contacts to get Hezbollah to buy them Israel figured out which specific model of pager (and which ones) Hezbollah was using, and then performed some kind of motherboard attack that caused the lithium battery to overheat and explode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM Q branch has been busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:21 PM Just now, CitizenVectron said: I'm really confused how this would have gone down. Two ideas: Israel manufactured a type of pager with a small explosive, and then used contacts to get Hezbollah to buy them Israel figured out which specific model of pager (and which ones) Hezbollah was using, and then performed some kind of motherboard attack that caused the lithium battery to overheat and explode? I'm going with the former. Like I said this is like a Tom Clancy novel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM How would they do that? Some over the air update and then wait for enough pagers to get it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM Just now, CitizenVectron said: I'm really confused how this would have gone down. Two ideas: Israel manufactured a type of pager with a small explosive, and then used contacts to get Hezbollah to buy them Israel figured out which specific model of pager (and which ones) Hezbollah was using, and then performed some kind of motherboard attack that caused the lithium battery to overheat and explode? I'm leaning towards the first option, are pagers still made? I imagine sourcing 1,200 pagers isn't easy, but very easy if Hezbollah Bob's cousin's uncle has an electronics company that has a bunch in storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:24 PM I mean it's sorta genius and now I'm weary of my Pixel phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted Tuesday at 04:27 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:27 PM 1 minute ago, SuperSpreader said: How would they do that? Some over the air update and then wait for enough pagers to get it? Third option is some kind of microwave directed energy attack (anti drone weapons use this), but other shit would be exploding too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted Tuesday at 04:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:31 PM 9 minutes ago, Reputator said: I'm going with the former. Like I said this is like a Tom Clancy novel. Yea this is way beyond my pay grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted Tuesday at 04:33 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:33 PM Some speculation that these pagers were designed this way (with Hezbollah's knowledge) so they could be remotely destroyed if lost/stolen, but Israel (or some other actor) figured out the kill signal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Bernard's gf is Mossad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 04:34 PM Just now, CitizenVectron said: Some speculation that these pagers were designed this way (with Hezbollah's knowledge) so they could be remotely destroyed if lost/stolen, but Israel (or some other actor) figured out the kill signal. That's exactly the most likely scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM 13 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: are pagers still made? Yes. Typically ER doctors + surgeons use them in the US. I doubt that's who was using them in this situation, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted Tuesday at 04:47 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:47 PM Kingsman: The Secret Service - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Tuesday at 04:48 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:48 PM 14 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Some speculation that these pagers were designed this way (with Hezbollah's knowledge) so they could be remotely destroyed if lost/stolen, but Israel (or some other actor) figured out the kill signal. gottem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 04:52 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 04:52 PM The question now is if Mossad/Aman managed to compromise a source within the company that manufactured the pagers to obtain the kill signal (a HUMINT operation) or if this was largely a SIGINT operation. It was probably some combination of the two most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted Tuesday at 05:08 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:08 PM wHaT iF tHeY jUsT fOuNd A wAy To OvErLoAd ThE bAtTeRiEs? - Someone, somewhere, who has watched too many movies... probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted Tuesday at 05:25 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:25 PM 1 hour ago, TUFKAK said: Iranian ambassador Hezbollah members And at least one child, so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted Tuesday at 05:38 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:38 PM Meanwhile we wait for Elon Musk to issue Order 66 and then having Tesla everything explode, drive off a cliff, or lock everyone in their vehicle as a Boney M playlist runs its course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted Tuesday at 06:29 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:29 PM 2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: I'm really confused how this would have gone down. Two ideas: Israel manufactured a type of pager with a small explosive, and then used contacts to get Hezbollah to buy them Israel figured out which specific model of pager (and which ones) Hezbollah was using, and then performed some kind of motherboard attack that caused the lithium battery to overheat and explode? The Post has a video of one of the explosions in their story. I feel pretty confident that that is not the result of an unaltered battery exploding, no matter what you do to it. Someone must have put something else in the pagers. Crazy Tom Clancy vibes here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted Tuesday at 06:37 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 06:37 PM 10 minutes ago, TwinIon said: The Post has a video of one of the explosions in their story. I feel pretty confident that that is not the result of an unaltered battery exploding, no matter what you do to it. Someone must have put something else in the pagers. I just have difficulty believing that the Israelis could've infiltrated whatever amount (no matter how small a quantity) of Semtex or similar plastic explosives into the devices and still have them function normally which I assume they were until a few hours ago. I'm still leaning towards an altered battery being the explosive catalyst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted Tuesday at 06:43 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:43 PM I'm sure all the doctors I know will love that their pagers double as IEDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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