Kal-El814 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, Dre801 said: Iat that price, I'd better not see any 30FPS games unless they push 8K or something. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I mean, christ, the PS4 Pro launched at $400: same as the PS4 base launch price. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Spork3245 said: I really don’t see the price to performance value with this like I did with the Pro or, especially, the XboneX. They seemingly had nothing to even show off with this. Like, if it was taking “40fps mode” and making it 120fps… maybe? But 30 to 60fps on games that already have 40fps VRR was… well… trash. I think we have to see how its used to see if that is the case. I see UE5 games running kinda terrible within 24 months on the base hardware. If they leverage this custom SOC design, they could see some great performance. Then again, maybe this hardware is only ever leverage with a brute force approach because 95% of their customer base is still on the base console in two years (or PS4!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexterryu Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 As a current PS5 owner, I have zero interest. While I generally am supportive of disc-less, I would lose the ability to play quite a few of the disc based games that I have and that's a no-go for me. They need a path to convert disc based purchases into digital. Also... $700 is quite expensive for a mid-gen upgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: I think we have to see how its used to see if that is the case. I see UE5 games running kinda terrible within 24 months on the base hardware. If they leverage this custom SOC design, they could see some great performance. Then again, maybe this hardware is only ever leverage with a brute force approach because 95% of their customer base is still on the base console in two years (or PS4!). I don’t see this selling enough to actually get devs to push games much further like we did with the 4 Pro and XboneX. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Spork3245 said: I don’t see this selling enough to actually get devs to push games much further like we did with the 4 Pro and XboneX. Not at that price! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: Not at that price! I mean, NGL, I think even Stepee would’ve passed on this 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: I mean, NGL, I think even Stepee would’ve passed on this Nah, I would have talked him into it and then he would talk me into mine! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I mean, NGL, I think even Stepee would’ve passed on this He would have definitely said fuck it and bought one and then bought one for someone else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: He would have definitely said fuck it and bought one and then bought one for someone else. Probably, but I think he would’ve debated on it for a few days instead of being all in on day one like usual 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 18 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: I think we have to see how its used to see if that is the case. I see UE5 games running kinda terrible within 24 months on the base hardware. If they leverage this custom SOC design, they could see some great performance. Then again, maybe this hardware is only ever leverage with a brute force approach because 95% of their customer base is still on the base console in two years (or PS4!). 16 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I don’t see this selling enough to actually get devs to push games much further like we did with the 4 Pro and XboneX. It’s doubtful the Pro was going to move the needle on any that if it was much better priced. Devs aren’t building new raytracing modes and such because it exists. They’re doing it because of where PC is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I guess if you're a PS and Xbox gamer who doesn't want a PC and absolutely has to have the best version of multi platform releases, then this is for you. . . I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 We live in interesting times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 28 minutes ago, Dre801 said: It's better for sure, but 200 bucks more better? Ehh. . .at that price, I'd better not see any 30FPS games unless they push 8K or something. so the concern based on the leaked specs was any game that was CPU limited causing 30fps on a PS5 will still be 30fps on the Pro. You’ll only see an uplift for games that were GPU limited. I didn’t watch, but was there any indication the CPU is significantly more powerful in the pro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 25 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I don’t see this selling enough to actually get devs to push games much further like we did with the 4 Pro and XboneX. I think the hook will be devs getting used to working with SSR for the PS6 where it will be improved and standard. So other than SSR I think you’re right that we may not see much else being leveraged in the Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I think Sony wants us to believe that PSSR is the new checkboard rendering. PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution to Work Across the Full Library Without Patches; Will Also Support PS VR2 WCCFTECH.COM According to a report, PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution will work across the full library without patches. Eventually, even on PS VR2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: so the concern based on the leaked specs was any game that was CPU limited causing 30fps on a PS5 will still be 30fps on the Pro. You’ll only see an uplift for games that were GPU limited. I didn’t watch, but was there any indication the CPU is significantly more powerful in the pro? I think it's the same Zen 2 chip, maybe boosted clocks or something. It's the GPU that got the big upgrade, so this is sounding like Sony's Xbox One X, a big GPU upgrade with minimal CPU upgrade just like that system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 This system isn't for me but I might get one in the end when PS5 dies and everybody moves on to PS6 if/when the price drops off as my PS5 is the first-gen digital so I can't add the disc drive to it. I haven't used my PS5 in ages and when I did it was simply to play my PS4 digital library. 35 minutes ago, Dexterryu said: As a current PS5 owner, I have zero interest. While I generally am supportive of disc-less, I would lose the ability to play quite a few of the disc based games that I have and that's a no-go for me. They need a path to convert disc based purchases into digital. Also... $700 is quite expensive for a mid-gen upgrade. This like the previous ps5 revision can have the disc drive added on as it's now modular. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPDunks4 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 47 minutes ago, Dre801 said: It's better for sure, but 200 bucks more better? Ehh. . .at that price, I'd better not see any 30FPS games unless they push 8K or something. Isn't it $300 more because its digital only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Never I have felt more fortunate to be a PC gamer. Thanks, @stepee! 1 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 What I would give to see the actual market research that indicated that this would be an acceptable price point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: What I would give to see the actual market research that indicated that this would be an acceptable price point! Perhaps its the Overton Window ploy to setup support/manage expectations surrounding the PS6's price tag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 39 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: It’s doubtful the Pro was going to move the needle on any that if it was much better priced. Devs aren’t building new raytracing modes and such because it exists. They’re doing it because of where PC is. Sure, third party multi platform games will just get more features that were PC “exclusive”, but I’ll get those games on PC anyway. I was more so talking about first party/exclusives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 11 minutes ago, JPDunks4 said: Isn't it $300 more because its digital only. $250 since Sony raised the price of the PS4 Digital to $450 from $400 with the “slim” model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 All Sony would have to do is make Bloodborne Remake a PS5 pro exclusive and it would sell. Hell, if it came to both but the pro played it at 60fps people would still eat it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Well the whole point is that it doesn't have exclusive games just runs PS5 games better. This thing better run GTA6 at 60FPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 From Wario64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 hour ago, Dodger said: They figured out away around the scalpers! "What if we were the scalpers?" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Looks like this will come with a 2tb SSD at least 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: From Wario64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 It feels like the price is an acknowledgment that consoles are no longer considered a growth market. We have entered the squeeze your existing base to show growth phase. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I just played through Demons Souls, you bastards. Just in case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, Brian said: It feels like the price is an acknowledgment that consoles are no longer considered a growth market. We have entered the squeeze your existing base to show growth phase. It's also a de-facto admission by Sony that it no longer considers Microsoft to be a viable competitor in this space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Gamestop was offering like $270 for series S, maaaaaybe if they offer like $450 for the PS5 as trade in for this I'd get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 9 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "What if we were the scalpers?" During the RTX 3000 series pandemic debacle of people paying $1500+ for a $700 3080, a video card company (I forget which, maybe MSI) was caught putting some of their stock on eBay and letting people bid on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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