Keyser_Soze Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 And if you want to play your discs on it that's $80 more. And if you want the stand that's like $20? How much is the stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Too rich for my blood. I would much rather spend another couple hundred for a current gen video card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 I’d rather spend $700 on a beefed up OLED Switch 2 than this. Maybe there’s a world where a $700 Pro could be exciting, but it’s not one where Sony is porting everything to PC, and that platform has fully embraced upscalling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 $700 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, johnny said: 700 dollars lmfaoooooo. dont even bother announcing it if you can’t sell it for less than that They legit couldn’t even show any games that made a notable difference. GT7 added RT reflections, beyond that it was “30fps vs 60fps for quality mode… but let’s ignore the 40fps mode that’s already available because then no one would be able to tell the difference”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 $700 and your CPU limited games will still be 30fps. Lololololololololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: They legit couldn’t even show any games that made a notable difference. GT7 added RT reflections, beyond that it was “30fps vs 60fps for quality mode… but let’s ignore the 40fps mode that’s already available because then no one would be able to tell the difference”. I thought the tech sounded like a pretty good upgrade. It's just too much money. And I don't blame Sony for that the way things went globally with prices. They probably just should have killed it before it got too far. I suspect that's what MS did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: Too rich for my blood. I would much rather spend another couple hundred for a current gen video card. Hell, a 4070 Ti Super can be had for around $780… AND IT COMES WITH A GAME. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Paperclyp said: I thought the tech sounded like a pretty good upgrade. It's just too much money. And I don't blame Sony for that the way things went globally with prices. They probably just should have killed it before it got too far. I suspect that's what MS did. On paper, many things sound good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Man, if this thing bombs (in market and mindshare), that’s great news for people planning to hold onto the current hardware. Lot of 3rd party devs did the base hardware a disservice last gen by the end. But I don’t see that happening to the same degree here with such a misstep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: On paper, many things sound good. Like the Jets, according to @Biggie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: Like the Jets, according to @Biggie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Hell, a 4070 Ti Super can be had for around $780… AND IT COMES WITH A GAME. We’ll have to see more to confirm, but a 4070 TI Super would probably be overkill by comparison if you just wanted to build an equivalent rig. Even more if you count DLSS3 framegen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Unbelievable. I can't afford that. I'm going to have to accept 30fps for now. Sigh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Died 2006, Born 2024. Welcome back arrogant Sony. 1 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: We’ll have to see more to confirm, but a 4070 TI Super would probably be overkill by comparison if you just wanted to build an equivalent rig. Even more if you count DLSS3 framegen. No one said equivalent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Whelp, producing enough for demand won't be hard. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Died 2006, Born 2024. Welcome back arrogant Sony. I don't think this is the same. This is a high end version of their console in a waaay different period economically. They were arrogant from the ground up with the PS3's entire design, from the cell processor to the marketing pitch. This is more like...shit we literally can't make it any cheaper than this and hit our numbers because of the global economy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 17 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: And if you want to play your discs on it that's $80 more. And if you want the stand that's like $20? How much is the stand? Verticle stand is $29.99. All in with tax in my state i'd be looking at about $859 total lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: I don't think this is the same. This is a high end version of their console in a waaay different period economically. They were arrogant from the ground up with the PS3's entire design, from the cell processor to the marketing pitch. This is more like...shit we literally can't make it any cheaper than this and hit our numbers because of the global economy. This is absolutely factual and unfortunately will not be an accepted reality by most. I wonder how Nintendo is doing regarding Switch 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 Will more people have bought Concord or buy the pro? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, Mr.Vic20 said: This is absolutely factual and unfortunately will not be an accepted reality by most. I wonder how Nintendo is doing regarding Switch 2. I’m thinking $400-450 for Switch 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 5 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Will more people have bought Concord or buy the pro? Free copy of Concord with every purchase* *physical copy only so you need to buy the disc drive 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 Honestly I can't hate them for trying. People paid scalpers way more then $500 for the PS5 for months after release. A higher end video card is over $700 by itself. I think it sucks they couldn't deliver good examples for it's existence but maybe come Grand Theft Auto 6 people will be singing a different tune. For me $700 is too much but the fact that it doesn't have a disc drive is the killing blow. I watch my 4k/Blu rays and an extra $80 definitely isn't happening on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Free copy of Concord with every purchase* *physical copy only so you need to by the disc drive 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 12 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Whelp, producing enough for demand won't be hard. They figured out away around the scalpers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 So, guess what? PS6 will be a minimum of $700 now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 3 minutes ago, DarkStar189 said: Honestly I can't hate them for trying. People paid scalpers way more then $500 for the PS5 for months after release. A higher end video card is over $700 by itself. I think it sucks they couldn't deliver good examples for it's existence but maybe come Grand Theft Auto 6 people will be singing a different tune. For me $700 is too much but tue fact that it doesn't have a disc drive is the killing blow. I watch my 4k/Blu rays! Oh, the value of price to performance is definitely there and I bet this hardware punches above its weight vs an equivalent PC. That said, the public at large will only see the price and it will be a non starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 1 minute ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: So, guess what? PS6 will be a minimum of $700 now. That was my next thought. Next gen is probably gonna be at least $600. Guess we'll find out of MS launches the next box first as currently being rumored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 10 Author Share Posted September 10 5 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Oh, the value of price to performance is definitely there and I bet this hardware punches above its weight vs an equivalent PC. That said, the public at large will only see the price and it will be a non starter. The PS4 Pro had 4K and UHD to help get the average Joe to see something worth upgrading to. This, while nice to have, doesn't have that same punch and in fact without the drive removes the value the PS4 pro had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 4 minutes ago, Dodger said: That was my next thought. Next gen is probably gonna be at least $600. Guess we'll find out of MS launches the next box first as currently being rumored. The next xbox will be $100 because it’s going to be a high end streaming stick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 It's better for sure, but 200 bucks more better? Ehh. . .at that price, I'd better not see any 30FPS games unless they push 8K or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 2 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: The PS4 Pro had 4K and UHD to help get the average Joe to see something worth upgrading to. This, while nice to have, doesn't have that same punch and in fact without the drive removes the value the PS4 pro had. All true, but dollar/performance, its still a nice piece of kit. Again, the average consumer will definitely not thinks so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 10 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Oh, the value of price to performance is definitely there and I bet this hardware punches above its weight vs an equivalent PC. That said, the public at large will only see the price and it will be a non starter. I really don’t see the price to performance value with this like I did with the 4 Pro or, especially, the XboneX. They seemingly had nothing to even show off with this. Like, if it was taking “40fps mode” and making it 120fps… maybe? But 30 to 60fps on games that already have 40fps VRR was… well… trash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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