Jason Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siebzehn Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/us-news/thomas-matthew-crooks-idd-as-gunman-who-shot-trump-during-pa-rally/ "Thomas Matthew Crooks ID’d as gunman who shot Trump during Pa. rally" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 This dude missed from 130 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Doesn’t look like his gun has a sight on it Trump Rally Gunman Seen Opening Fire & Getting Killed Seconds Later in New Video WWW.TMZ.COM TMZ has obtained video showing the Trump rally gunman opening fire on the crowd before being shot and killed himself from the roof of a nearby building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 You mean a scope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: You mean a scope? From 130 iron sights should’ve been sufficient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Wow - not that the shot would be impossible without a scope...But if you are going to try and pull something off like this, you best have the equipment you need to be successful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, TUFKAK said: From 130 iron sights should’ve been sufficient. Yes. But if you know you are going to die in infamy might as well put another $500 on your credit card to get a decent scope. This story is just crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblfilms Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I mean, there is literally a video of people shouting that there is a guy on the roof with a gun. Seems incredibly likely that the man who was interviewed gave a very accurate account of how this went down. Unbelievable 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Why do I feel like this only helped Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 12 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: You mean a scope? I think so? I know very little about guns, so not sure of the correct terminology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Just now, Spawn_of_Apathy said: Why do I feel like this only helped Trump. Because that's exactly what happened. People who think assassinations hurt their opponents are the biggest idiots in all of politics. It only hardens the resolve of your adversaries. Rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Scope or not, a 20 year old climbed up on to a roof and was able to graze a former president’s ear with a bullet. Secret Service fucking failed here. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 @Commissar SFLUFAN I was thinking about this the other day and there was no good topic to bring it up in. This is the next best thing. Do you think in this information age it is possible to not have a high profile gunman's name revealed ever? I only ask because some of the people who were involved with Peter Tosh's death were never identified by name. It's crazy to me how after 37 years this information could be kept secret. In this event, how long do you think they could have kept it secret? Someone would have found out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: @Commissar SFLUFAN I was thinking about this the other day and there was no good topic to bring it up in. This is the next best thing. Do you think in this information age it is possible to not have a high profile gunman's name revealed ever? I only ask because some of the people who were involved with Peter Tosh's death were never identified by name. It's crazy to me how after 37 years this information could be kept secret. In this event, how long do you think they could have kept it secret? Someone would have found out. No, I simply do not believe that's even remotely possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Also, the Trump people are surely going to pay the hospital bills for the injured and help pay for funeral expenses of the deceased right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: Also, the Trump people are surely going to pay the hospital bills for the injured and help pay for funeral expenses of the deceased right? You mean crisis actors? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Donald Trump Suggests ‘Second Amendment People’ Could Act Against Hillary Clinton - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM Mr. Trump, in emphasizing gun issues and the Supreme Court during a speech, issued what some saw as a threat to Mrs. Clinton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 People are saying the shooter was a Republican. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Shooter had no ID on him. FBI is trying toverify his ID by other means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Shooter had no ID on him. FBI is trying toverify his ID by other means. And didn't Secret Service blow his head off? Or at least fuck his face up extremely bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Biden should use this to push for comprehensive gun legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, Jason said: And didn't Secret Service blow his head off? Or at least fuck his face up extremely bad? Probably... they're using DNA for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApatheticSarcasm Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 40 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Yes. But if you know you are going to die in infamy might as well put another $500 on your credit card to get a decent scope. This story is just crazy Not to encourage political violence, because I am not trying to see this country turn into a banana republic, but the dude could've done this with a Bass Pro Shop deer hunter package at that price and with a scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 minute ago, skillzdadirecta said: Probably... they're using DNA for sure. Dental records and fingerprints too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 It’s all so simple. Republican agents hired one of their own to fake an assassination attempt to help Trump tie up the election and have reason to then lock down the capitol completely with military so nobody can unseat him ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, marioandsonic said: You're right, and I'm sorry. But seriously, I'm scared as hell. What are the consequences going to be regarding this? If the shooter turns out to be a minority, are we going to see waves of violence against those groups? If the early reports or photos are true, the shooter looks like a scrawny 20 year old white kid. That’s probably the best we could ask for in this situation. White people will just brush him off as one of the crazies that slipped through the cracks. Just try not to think about it. It’s out of our control and we’re along for the ride. I don’t picture a lot of horrible things happening from this. If anything, it’s going to be a major annoyance because this is all we’re going to hear about for months. Trump will use it to his advantage I’m sure. Most of it is all just going to be noise. Loud annoying noise leading up to election time. We’ll still all be here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 minutes ago, ApatheticSarcasm said: Not to encourage political violence, because I am not trying to see this country turn into a banana republic, but the dude could've done this with a Bass Pro Shop deer hunter package at that price and with a scope. Don't forget that political assassins in America simply haven't had a good record over the last 40 years. Reagan survived. Trump survived. Hell, a whole group of Republican Congressmen survived the shooting at baseball practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApatheticSarcasm Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 6 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Don't forget that political assassins in America simply haven't had a good record over the last 40 years. Reagan survived. Trump survived. Hell, a whole group of Republican Congressmen survived the shooting at baseball practice. I remember when I heard about Hodgkinson trying to kill them, but it felt like he chose poorly with that SKS. I'm reminded of this scene from Full Metal Jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 FBI has confirmed the ID. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I can’t watch or read the news. Can’t stand seeing that photo everywhere. It’s going to be everywhere for the indefinite future. Like he’s some sort of fucking hero and not a pathetic wannabe tyrant. This country makes me sick. 3 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 On the plus side this ends the "Joe Biden is old" news cycle. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I can’t watch or read the news. Can’t stand seeing that photo everywhere. It’s going to be everywhere for the indefinite future. Like he’s some sort of fucking hero and not a pathetic wannabe tyrant. This country makes me sick. NYT used one of the better pictures for their editorial. Opinion | The Attack on Donald Trump Is Antithetical to America - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM Any attempt to resolve an election through violence is abhorrent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 13 minutes ago, Jason said: FBI has confirmed the ID. Reddit has found his voter registration. Republican. I’m also a registered Republican though so that doesn’t mean much on its own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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