osxmatt Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: How the devil have the Democrats not already invited O'Brien to speak at the convention?!? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chairslinger Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 16 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Only consolation is that there's still a huge number of undecideds, in most cases more than enough to offset the margin of error...if they're mostly Biden voters who are too annoyed with him to voice their support in a poll, there's hope. If they're Trump voters who don't want to say they're Trump voters, we're screwed. If they're true fence-sitters...who the hell knows. I don't see how true fence-sitters can even exist given who the candidates are, unless they have the IQ of a chia pet. (Maybe that's the answer right there...) I think this is largely my read as well, and why I give Biden a good chance. Voters mad at Biden because of inflation. Voters mad at Biden because of Gaza. These are real people that we know. People that I believe are imminently gettable when the choice is only Biden vs. Trump. On the other hand. Who in the world is still a "quiet Trump voter" too shy to make their support for him heard? Those days are long, long over with imho. As for truly undecideds....my opinion is that's why, for all of his fault, you keep Biden over Harris. Those undecideds decide who is likable in late October, not any of this other stuff. And Biden is likable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: On the other hand. Who in the world is still a "quiet Trump voter" ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 9 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Those undecideds decide who is likable in late October, not any of this other stuff. They're going to decide based on the price of gas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: They're going to decide based on the price of gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: They're going to decide based on the price of gas. Well he shut down that pipeline that was going to move Canadian oil wasn't completed and now we are not energy independent ignoring that we produce more oil now than ever and were never independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 13 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: They're going to decide based on the price of gas. Saudi has less ability now to spike the price of gas than they did two years ago right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 5 minutes ago, Jason said: Saudi has less ability now to spike the price of gas than they did two years ago right? I feel like people who vote for Trump due to the price of gas being high would just be expecting Trump to simply lower the price of it in a Thanos sort of way as soon as he is elected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, stepee said: I feel like people who vote for Trump due to the price of gas being high would just be expecting Trump to simply lower the price of it in a Thanos sort of way as soon as he is elected If this is true then they were Trump voters all along, they just didn't know it. Clearly they're stupid enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Greatoneshere said: If this is true then they were Trump voters all along, they just didn't know it. Clearly they're stupid enough. I do think some of them are just stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 *rubs everyone's temples* 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 minutes ago, stepee said: I do think some of them are just stupid Just some? If you are voting entirely based on "the price of gas" I can't really see what other explanation there is. Especially if their thinking is what you described in terms of Thanos, which sounds very plausible that they'd believe it works that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Just now, Greatoneshere said: Just some? If you are voting entirely based on "the price of gas" I can't really see what other explanation there is. I meant the others are already trump supporters AND stupid. Some are just stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 Trump “Talks About Bloodbath If He Loses,” Biden Reminds Lester Holt In Preview Of Primetime NBC Interview Tonight DEADLINE.COM Joe Biden wants civility in the election, but he wants to make a few things clear to Lester Holt too 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, Chairslinger said: I think this is largely my read as well, and why I give Biden a good chance. Voters mad at Biden because of inflation. Voters mad at Biden because of Gaza. These are real people that we know. People that I believe are imminently gettable when the choice is only Biden vs. Trump. On the other hand. Who in the world is still a "quiet Trump voter" too shy to make their support for him heard? Those days are long, long over with imho. As for truly undecideds....my opinion is that's why, for all of his fault, you keep Biden over Harris. Those undecideds decide who is likable in late October, not any of this other stuff. And Biden is likable. I agree keep Biden unless you have an insanely good VP pick for Harris (Taylor Swift). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Trump “Talks About Bloodbath If He Loses,” Biden Reminds Lester Holt In Preview Of Primetime NBC Interview Tonight DEADLINE.COM Joe Biden wants civility in the election, but he wants to make a few things clear to Lester Holt too I'll watch this tonight. Thanks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 14 minutes ago, DPCyric said: I agree keep Biden unless you have an insanely good VP pick for Harris (Taylor Swift). I’m 100% on the HarrSwift ticket too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 “Trump: America’s Hitler - JD Vance” tshirts who wants one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 minute ago, stepee said: “Trump: America’s Hitler - JD Vance” tshirts who wants one An immediately underrated part of that quote is also... "We're the party of dumb white voters". -J.D. Vance 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 3 minutes ago, stepee said: “Trump: America’s Hitler - JD Vance” tshirts who wants one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 19 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Take that quote and post it on a billboard and question him about it during a debate with the entire quite on a screen behind him… nevermind that would require journalist to ask questions instead of just accepting disinformation and word vomit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 48 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Trump “Talks About Bloodbath If He Loses,” Biden Reminds Lester Holt In Preview Of Primetime NBC Interview Tonight DEADLINE.COM Joe Biden wants civility in the election, but he wants to make a few things clear to Lester Holt too What else could he say? He's right that he deserves zero blame for inciting violence after everything his opponent has said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 50 minutes ago, stepee said: I’m 100% on the HarrSwift ticket too Easy win IMO. 33 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: An immediately underrated part of that quote is also... "We're the party of dumb white voters". -J.D. Vance Well it's a good thing that is out there now because a lot of them are too dumb to know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 General Election Poll Trump 46% (+1) Biden 45% Poll before Trump Shooting was Trump +2 Morning Consult #C - 2045 RV - 7/15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Need more data obviously but if getting shot at doesn’t change the polls it’s either the polls are missing something big or they’re exactly right and nothing will really change the race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Biden got a bit sassy with Holt when asked about the debate, but Joe has a point (timestamped): 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Biden needs to be more sassy, especially with the press. I think it will go a long way in helping him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 3 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Biden got a bit sassy with Holt when asked about the debate, but Joe has a point (timestamped): “God love ya” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeRoden Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: General Election Poll Trump 46% (+1) Biden 45% Poll before Trump Shooting was Trump +2 Morning Consult #C - 2045 RV - 7/15 Trump: I could shoot somebody and not lose any voters. Earth's Mad Scientist God: What if I tried the opposite? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 6 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Biden got a bit sassy with Holt when asked about the debate, but Joe has a point (timestamped): I just watched the whole thing and all I have to say is that the last remaining threads of journalistic integrity are absolutely dead in this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 So I didn't watch the debate but I've watched plenty of coverage about it and I haven't heard ONE Journo talk about ONE lie Trump told that night. Not one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 8 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: So I didn't watch the debate but I've watched plenty of coverage about it and I haven't heard ONE Journo talk about ONE lie Trump told that night. Not one. Articles from within approximately 24 hours after the debate mentioned it, but just a brief “Biden stumbled, Trump lied” or whatever in the headline and then basically did no actual coverage of any of the lies that Trump told. Meme-centric satirical news groups/accounts did a better job of covering it then pretty much any actual news outlet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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