Jwheel86 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 oh ffs 'Vice President Trump' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Make Kamala the nom and Pete Buttigieg the VP to bring more charisma to the ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: My prediction on democrats reaction to Harris becoming the nominee: Day of announcement: OMG GUYS! YAY! WE DID IT! 5 seconds after she speaks: oh dear god, what have we done Kamala / Bernie VP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, legend said: Make Kamala the nom and Pete Buttigieg the VP to bring more charisma to the ticket. A black woman and a gay man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, SuperSpreader said: A black woman and a gay man Yep, let's go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, legend said: Yep, let's go. You have a lot of faith in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, SuperSpreader said: A black woman and a gay man Hell yeah. It's one step closer to being able to vote for Buttigieg as President, which I hope to do some day. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, SuperSpreader said: You have a lot of faith in this country. Are you sure you're an ai expert? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, SuperSpreader said: You have a lot of faith in this country. The country? Fuck no. But the racists and homophobes are already voting for Trump, while the uniqueness of breaking boundaries might actually light a fire under the dems asses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, legend said: Make Kamala the nom and Pete Buttigieg the VP to bring more charisma to the ticket. Butti the nom, Kamala continues as VP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: Butti the nom, Kamala continues as VP In a vacuum, I'm not opposed to it. But do that and you piss off a lot of people for passing over the black woman who was the natural choice. I think you'd get a lot of protest non-voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Are you sure you're an ai expert? Are you asking yourself or me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siebzehn Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Butti the nom, Kamala continues as VP That has pretty bad optics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, legend said: In a vacuum, I'm not opposed to it. But do that and you piss off a lot of people for passing over the black woman who was the natural choice. I think you'd get a lot of protest non-voting. If they don’t vote for a black VP they’re clearly racist, though, and thus Trump voters anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, legend said: Are you asking yourself or me? At this point it doesn't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, Siebzehn said: That has pretty bad optics Wow, it’s messed up that you wouldn’t want a black VP and a gay president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: My prediction on democrats reaction to Harris becoming the nominee: Day of announcement: OMG GUYS! YAY! WE DID IT! 5 seconds after she speaks: oh dear god, what have we done There is no amount of VP that is going to change this, my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: If they don’t vote for a black VP they’re clearly racist, though, and thus Trump voters anyway. Rationally, you're completely right, but I'm worried even some black women and other progressives won't vote out of protest for not making her the front runner. My experience is people have terribly irrational reasons for how and when they vote and many would think this was "sending a message" in some meaningful way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, Spork3245 said: There is no amount of VP that is going to change this, my friends. The price of not doing this is quickly becoming too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblfilms Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 This is very middling. Not great, not terrible. Definitely not going to change the narratives IMO. Biden still can be pretty charming at times though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, legend said: Rationally, you're completely right, but I'm worried even some black women and other "progressives" won't vote out of protest for not making her the front runner. My experience is people have terribly irrational reasons for how and when the vote and many would think this was "sending a message" in some meaningful way. But what if she realizes that she has the charisma of a toe fungus, has a low chance of beating Trump, and willingly goes “nah, I love being VP - let’s get someone else up front!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Well I like everything he's saying, his delivery is rough as expected though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: But what if she realizes that she has the charisma of a toe fungus, has a low chance of beating Trump, and willingly goes “nah, I love being VP - let’s get someone else up front!” In this fantasy? Maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: This is very middling. Not great, not terrible. Definitely not going to change the narratives IMO. Biden still can be pretty charming at times though. I was thinking the same thing. He had a little throat clearing going on and called Harris Trump, but other than that he’s just doing his thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, sblfilms said: This is very middling. Not great, not terrible. Definitely not going to change the narratives IMO. Biden still can be pretty charming at times though. And holding steady at the current polling numbers isn't a recipe for winning. Here's the thing, national polling where a Democrat is dead-even with a Republican is bad news. When in the past several elections Democrats have enjoyed a substantial national advantage in popular vote, which is essentially what such polling is testing for, dead-even means the electoral collage advantage kicks in for the GOP. The way our election system is rigged set up, Democrats have to far over-perform their rival to win. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 7 minutes ago, Reputator said: The price of not doing this is quickly becoming too great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, Reputator said: And holding steady at the current polling numbers isn't a recipe for winning. Considering he’s holding in spite of the dumbass obsessive media coverage, democrats attacking him, and celebrities attacking him… holding steady is actually impressive EDIT: I’m not saying it’s good or that he’d win, but c’mon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Considering he’s holding in spite of the dumbass obsessive media coverage, democrats attacking him, and celebrities attacking him… holding steady is actually impressive It would be if not for the rest of what my post says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Honestly imagining him on the debate stage with a timer again is gonna be rough. He clearly knows the job but his ability to communicate is just awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Reputator said: It would be if not for the rest of what my post says. No, it still very much is, as holding steady in the current environment implies he’s over performing despite the narrative. That narrative goes away and what happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Just now, Spork3245 said: No, it still very much is, as holding steady in the current environment implies he’s over performing despite the narrative. That narrative goes away and what happens? If that narrative goes away, because Kamala is the nominee, you might see an expanding on the polling advantage she's already showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 haha we're all gonna die 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblfilms Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 “My numbers in Israel are better than they are here” is an incredible line 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 3 minutes ago, Reputator said: If that narrative goes away, because Kamala is the nominee, you might see an expanding on the polling advantage she's already showing. Except then the people who are being polled will have heard her speak for the first time, and that incredibly hypothetical advantage (since she’s not the nominee) is obliterated. I want the dems to keep the White House, there’s a chance of that with Biden, and hardly a prayer of that with Kamala. Those same polls have Hilary ahead of either of them ffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: Except then the people who are being polled will have heard her speak for the first time, and that incredibly hypothetical advantage (since she’s not the nominee) is obliterated. I want the dems to keep the White House, there’s a chance of that with Biden, and hardly a prayer of that with Kamala. Against Trump I don't think she'll sound any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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