Rock the Vote '24: update (10/14) - Harris to be interviewed by Fox News on Wednesday

[Fizzzzle]

8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

This is an op-ed piece that discusses this past weekend's NYT/Siena surveys of Black and Latin voters and the "political misdiagnosis" that the Democratic Party (and many others) made that the "browning" of America would ultimately result in a "permanent" Democratic majority:

 

A Political Misdiagnosis - The New York Times

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Democrats imagined that they would become the majority party as America became more racially diverse. It’s not working out that way.

 

Twenty years ago, this book The Emerging Democratic Majority became the core text for this notion.  However, just last year, the authors released a follow-up book Where Have All the Democrats Gone? that essentially acts as repudiation of their original text.

We've thought that for a while. We thought Texas and Florida would turn more blue as more Latin-American people became eligible to vote, but it seems the opposite is true. Especially in Florida. Latin-American voters went red more than blue.

[GeneticBlueprint]

4 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said:

We've thought that for a while. We thought Texas and Florida would turn more blue as more Latin-American people became eligible to vote, but it seems the opposite is true. Especially in Florida. Latin-American voters went red more than blue.

 

My wife and much of her extended family and friends are Latin-American immigrants. For the most part (plenty of exceptions of course) I've seen fewer groups more enthusiastic about pulling the ladder up behind them.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

17 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

In outreach to Black men, Harris to vow to legalize weed, protect crypto

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Polls show that some Black men may be gravitating toward former President Trump or not vote at all. Vice President Harris and other prominent Democrats are trying to counter that.

 

Finally something I can be obnoxious about disagreeing with Harris about cause the $25k down payment assistance just doesn’t hit the same as crypto bashing

[S3xB0t]

4 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said:

We've thought that for a while. We thought Texas and Florida would turn more blue as more Latin-American people became eligible to vote, but it seems the opposite is true. Especially in Florida. Latin-American voters went red more than blue.

I don’t understand why the machine was fooled into thinking this. We’ve discussed it before here but given the cultural presets of those south of America it’s no surprise that they’ve enlarged the conservative bloc. 

Black culture has a considerable element of machismo, too, so that trend isn’t surprising either. 

[CitizenVectron]

3 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

My wife and much of her extended family and friends are Latin-American immigrants. For the most part (plenty of exceptions of course) I've seen fewer groups more enthusiastic about pulling the ladder up behind them.

 

Correct—this goes for all people, they mostly just care about themselves (not a racial thing). Race becomes a big issue when a party targets all people openly. When they say it's just the "bad" ones, it's easier to think "well it's not me, I'm already here and established, so who cares?" Obviously this has happened over and over in the past in various ethnic cleansings and pogroms. However, current Trump cleansing planning aside, it should be expected that if race is less and less of an issue, then other things (social and economic issues) become the primary point of voting. And in those cases, 1st-gen immigrants tend to more closely align with the GOP than Democrats, I think.

[S3xB0t]

1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

Correct—this goes for all people, they mostly just care about themselves (not a racial thing). Race becomes a big issue when a party targets all people openly. When they say it's just the "bad" ones, it's easier to think "well it's not me, I'm already here and established, so who cares?" Obviously this has happened over and over in the past in various ethnic cleansings and pogroms. However, current Trump cleansing planning aside, it should be expected that if race is less and less of an issue, then other things (social and economic issues) become the primary point of voting. And in those cases, 1st-gen immigrants tend to more closely align with the GOP than Democrats, I think.

Like any common idiot voting for the GOP first-gen immigrants don’t realize that Republicans won’t even pretend to care about their economic well-being. Trump’s campaign sure has a lot of words out there for making America great and making everyone else (“China”) “pay” but where are the plans to on-shore shit? Harris actually belongs to an administration that *has* on-shored jobs. It’s been my impression as a white man looking on that the most pressing issues to Latin American immigrants that would actually change under Trump are social. Their cultures hold “family” (in the traditional sense) in high regard. I wish *they* could be the ones to hear that Harris won’t emasculate all their sons and gay up their daughters instead of a focus on the bros. 

[TUFKAK]

18 minutes ago, S3xB0t said:

Like any common idiot voting for the GOP first-gen immigrants don’t realize that Republicans won’t even pretend to care about their economic well-being. Trump’s campaign sure has a lot of words out there for making America great and making everyone else (“China”) “pay” but where are the plans to on-shore shit? Harris actually belongs to an administration that *has* on-shored jobs. It’s been my impression as a white man looking on that the most pressing issues to Latin American immigrants that would actually change under Trump are social. Their cultures hold “family” (in the traditional sense) in high regard. I wish *they* could be the ones to hear that Harris won’t emasculate all their sons and gay up their daughters instead of a focus on the bros. 

Let them vote for the leopards then. 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

From today's discussion at the Economic Club of Chicago:

 

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Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait: Should Google be broken up? 

 

Trump: Virginia cleaned up its voter rolls and got rid of thousands and thousands of bad votes

 

Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait: The question was about Google

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

The actual video of the exchange:

 

Acyn (@acynig) on Threads

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Reporter: Should Google be broken up?  Trump: Virginia cleaned up its voter rolls and got rid of thousands and thousands of bad votes Reporter: The question was about Google

 

[outsida]

1 hour ago, Reputator said:

 

Apparently I missed something somewhere. Why is crypto particularly appealing to blacks?

Get-rich-quick. It offers the hope of gaining wealth rapidly that work/career and other investment vehicles don’t offer. 

[PaladinSolo]

Apparently he also cancelled an appearance on CNBC this morning, hes quite honestly probably trying to keep up with his past campaign schedules from previous elections but just isn't capable.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

Just now, PaladinSolo said:

Apparently he also cancelled an appearance on CNBC this morning, hes quite honestly probably trying to keep up with his past campaign schedules from previous elections but just isn't capable.

 

That's correct - he cancelled the appearance on The Squawk Box, one of whose hosts (Joe Kernen) is conservative-leaning.

[outsida]

He’s obviously sundowning and the music and ducking interviews is the campaign’s attempt conceal it.  

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

Today is the first day of early voting in GA and as of 2pm, nearly 190,000 votes have been cast. 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

(Also, the only acceptable answer to the question "Should Google be broken up?" is "HELL YES!")

[Reputator]

Just now, outsida said:

He’s obviously sundowning and the music and ducking interviews is the campaign’s attempt conceal it.  

 

Yeah there's definitely an appearance of that.

[69los]

13 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Today is the first day of early voting in GA and as of 2pm, nearly 190,000 votes have been cast. 

 

No reports that Carter actually voted. The reports just say that he has lived long enough to vote.

[GeneticBlueprint]

16 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

Today is the first day of early voting in GA and as of 2pm, nearly 190,000 votes have been cast. 

 

Do they release the tallies like PA or just the total votes cast?

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

2 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

Do they release the tallies like PA or just the total votes cast?

 

No idea.

[legend]

1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said:

In outreach to Black men, Harris to vow to legalize weed, protect crypto

WWW.NPR.ORG

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Polls show that some Black men may be gravitating toward former President Trump or not vote at all. Vice President Harris and other prominent Democrats are trying to counter that.

 

 

Crypto currencies 

[5timechamp]

1 hour ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

My wife and much of her extended family and friends are Latin-American immigrants. For the most part (plenty of exceptions of course) I've seen fewer groups more enthusiastic about pulling the ladder up behind them.

 

which makes it that much more surprising that the GOP is so anti-brown immigrants.. theyre not here to be Dem voters.. theyre future GOP’ers.. just sell them that “traditional family values” BS….. GOP just needs to hide their racism long enough to secure their votes.. hell it behooves the GOP to make the path to citizenship easier so they can get those votes…

[Spork3245]

Dropped my ballot off this morning 

Dem straight down. 
Local elections for my town had basically everyone unopposed so I called my dad and asked his thoughts on fires then said “congrats, you’re now a politician” as I wrote his name in for Fire Commissioner.

[marioandsonic]

Edit: Deleted before Wade bans me

[Jason]

13 minutes ago, Spork3245 said:

Dropped my ballot off this morning 

Dem straight down. 
Local elections for my town had basically everyone unopposed so I called my dad and asked his thoughts on fires then said “congrats, you’re now a politician” as I wrote his name in for Fire Commissioner.

 

My ballot got stolen out of my mailbox last week. According to my mailman my whole block gets hit a lot but our useless PD doesn't do anything. So now I have to wait until in person early voting starts on the 26th unless my replacement mail ballot arrives first, but I was told it could come as late as the 29th.

[ihavebigtitties]

1 minute ago, marioandsonic said:

 

Good news but you should have included a Krassenstein content warning.

[Jason]

2 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

 

 

  but also please remove the Krassenstein tweet before Wade sends you to the gulag 

[CastletonSnob]

Georgia is having record early voting.

[GeneticBlueprint]

24 minutes ago, marioandsonic said:

 

 

I've read that in PA the Dem firewall for early voting needs to be ~400,000. It's trending in that direction (last I read it was at 170k and is now at 190k) so let's keep it going.

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

3 minutes ago, CastletonSnob said:

Georgia is having record early voting.

 

That's because the rules changed to make VBM/absentee voting more difficult.

[Firewithin]

1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

From today's discussion at the Economic Club of Chicago:

 

our next "president"  cool 

 

also there was him getting pissy yet again for being called out on tariffs costing people more money 

[Reputator]

18 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

I've read that in PA the Dem firewall for early voting needs to be ~400,000. It's trending in that direction (last I read it was at 170k and is now at 190k) so let's keep it going.

 

Not all of those Republicans are voting for Donald, too. We have some numbers from the primary to go on there.

[GeneticBlueprint]

2 minutes ago, Reputator said:

 

Not all of those Republicans are voting for Donald, too. We have some numbers from the primary to go on there.

 

Personally I'm more weary about those numbers than I used to be (I used to be quite bullish on them) since Haley chickened out and endorsed Trump anyways.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

1 minute ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

Personally I'm more weary about those numbers than I used to be (I used to be quite bullish on them) since Haley chickened out and endorsed Trump anyways.

And still ended up getting 20% in subsequent primaries. 

[GeneticBlueprint]

Just now, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

And still ended up getting 20% in subsequent primaries. 

 

That's why I was bullish. I more meant that she flat out endorsed Trump after all of the primaries were over. That might sway many of her supporters but I don't know.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

10 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

 

That's why I was bullish. I more meant that she flat out endorsed Trump after all of the primaries were over. That might sway many of her supporters but I don't know.

It was never about her, she doesn’t factor into it. It’s about what she represented