sblfilms Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 9 minutes ago, legend said: God debates are so fucking stupid. So Vance edges out the "win" but people thought Walz did better on the two issues and approximately tied for the other 3. Sports-brained nonsense. This is a poor way to understand the results, partly because the questions themselves are not great. The economy is a substantially more important issue to the majority of voters than the other four, so taking even a small win there gets you quite a ways further down the road to a perceived overall victory than winning or tying on more topics of less importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazatron Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 8 minutes ago, Best said: Where are you getting the information that Vance came in as a joke? The right really supports him and he performs well in a situation like last night. Walz didn't come off confident and wasn't in his element. He’s the most unpopular VP in forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 31 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Quote Key data after VP debate CNN POLL: - More in touch with people like you? Walz +13 - Walz grew his net favorability +4 more than Vance CNN FOCUS GROUP: - 2 undecided MI voters said Vance’s J6 answer lost their vote NBC FOCUS GROUP: - 5 of 6 undecided PA voters said Walz won The bar was so low for Vance, plus the media is thirsty for the rubber match so they are always inclined to say "they both won one". This is one of those cases where the media is taken in by the "process" but voters seem to see it a different way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 13 minutes ago, Best said: Where are you getting the information that Vance came in as a joke? The right really supports him and he performs well in a situation like last night. Walz didn't come off confident and wasn't in his element. Vance is by far the least liked candidate in this election, and has been since announced. Overall though the VP debate is about not doing damage than making people vote for your guy, course the 2020 and Jan. 6th question seems to maybe have done a small amount of damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 5 minutes ago, finaljedi said: If Trump loses and Vance survives the inevitable knife that Trump sticks in his back, then he'll be something completely different in a year or two. 100% He's a shapeshifter with no defined moral or political compass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Keep him away from the Boar's Head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I'd like to know which place that is. I'm a pizza fanatic and I'm constantly researching where the best pizza exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 20 minutes ago, sblfilms said: This is a poor way to understand the results, partly because the questions themselves are not great. The economy is a substantially more important issue to the majority of voters than the other four, so taking even a small win there gets you quite a ways further down the road to a perceived overall victory than winning or tying on more topics of less importance. The economy topic was only 51-49. You have to skew those weights quite a bit to get the win for Vance out of that and I'm quite skeptical that abortion is valued that relatively low to argue that it's just a difference in importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 General election poll 🔵 Harris 48% (+4) 🔴 Trump 44% IPSOS #B - 1313 LV - 9/30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblfilms Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 6 minutes ago, legend said: The economy topic was only 51-49. You have to skew those weights quite a bit to get the win for Vance out of that and I'm quite skeptical that abortion is valued that relatively low to argue that it's just a difference in importance. “It’s the economy, stupid” is a timeless quote for a reason. You could also look up how important the issues as opposed to relying on gut feelings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 4 minutes ago, sblfilms said: “It’s the economy, stupid” is a timeless quote for a reason. You could also look up how important the issues as opposed to relying on gut feelings I'm not skeptical that it can be more important. I'm skeptical that its weight is as big as you're claiming to justify that people's concluded win is in fact based on the issues. If you want to convince me it's that substantially skewed, you're going to have to do more than cite a quote to me, which itself, is a gut feel on your part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 14 hours ago, Jason said: 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 24 minutes ago, Jason said: Keep him away from the Boar's Head. Why would he get Boar's Head lunch meat on a pizza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 10 minutes ago, legend said: I'm not skeptical that it can be more important. I'm skeptical that its weight is as big as you're claiming to justify that people's concluded win is in fact based on the issues. If you want to convince me it's that substantially skewed, you're going to have to do more than cite a quote to me, which itself, is a gut feel on your part. This Pew Research poll provides pretty decent insight into the relative weighting of the issues. Issues and the 2024 election | Pew Research Center WWW.PEWRESEARCH.ORG Most voters name several issues as very important to their vote. Economy is the top issue. Other important issues: health care, Supreme Court, foreign policy, crime, immigration, guns, abortion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Why would he get Boar's Head lunch meat on a pizza? Bacon, ham,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Bacon, ham,... He's not a monster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: He's not a monster Pepperoni... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Just now, Jason said: Pepperoni... Wasn't part of the outbreak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Wasn't part of the outbreak. Salami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 51 minutes ago, CastletonSnob said: Cook Political Report changed the Texas Senate race to Lean R. For context, the race was Likely R before. 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Good ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Salami On a pizza? In NYC? Cali pizza must be weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: On a pizza? In NYC? Cali pizza must be weird. Look I'd rather just be safe than sorry and keep Tim away from anything from the listeria company mkay. Who knows if they had listeria meat on the same surface as the pizza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 3 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: On a pizza? In NYC? Cali pizza must be weird. Do they have Round Table Pizza in New York? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 minute ago, Jason said: Look I'd rather just be safe than sorry and keep Tim away from anything from the listeria company mkay. Who knows if they had listeria meat on the same surface as the pizza. I highly doubt that place is still using Boars Head despite the sign The biggest hoagie place in my area, Hogback Deli, always used Boars Head and had tons of signs promoting the fact they did. They kept their Boars Head signs up and put caution tape all over them with signs that said "no more" - I should've taken pictures, but when I asked why they kept the signs up they said "we want people to know that we're not using that company ever again". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: Do they have Round Table Pizza in New York? ... like... a Neapolitan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 Round Table Pizza is a west coast brand AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Round Table Pizza is a west coast brand AFAIK. If they're putting salami on pizza, that's a big reason they're not in the north east Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: It was refreshing from my perspective to hear Vance admit that the GOP is doing a horrible job in terms of abortion politics. When he kept repeating over and over again, we have to win back the trust of women... I'm upset that Walz didn't simply ask... "What did the GOP do that caused women to lose trust in them? Why don't they trust you?" 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 *Wade seeing yet another CEB thread descend into D1P Foodcast* 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 minute ago, Chairslinger said: *Wade seeing yet another CEB thread descend into D1P Foodcast* It's honestly quite bloody tiresome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 6 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: *Wade seeing yet another CEB thread descend into D1P Foodcast* He's not the only one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 14 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: You probably shouldn't befriend those school shooters, Tim. 14 hours ago, Brick said: "I'm friends with school shooters" is going to be taken and memed by the chuds. Big oof on that gaffe. Have we learned nothing from Billy Madison? Be nice to them and you don’t get shot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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