Bacon Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 41 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Also, Mountain Dew has just become the offical drink of the Chud. 1. It always has been 2. I'm a mello yello man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Don't forget Hawley! Hawley is a boy from Brazil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 12 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: This is what was so frustrating about the past month with everything feeling hopeless. While I will think we are long past the hope of the "fever breaking" in DC I think we are one election win away from the GOP having to drastically reinvent themselves. They have rode Trump's celebrity for a decade, sacrificed any party identity to his ego, and I doubt they even know what they are without him anymore. It was like a nightmare where you can't move this past month seeing Dems all but surrender to a second Trump term when we are so close to putting an end to the Trump era AND cripple the GOP in one fell swoop.... This is why a lot of African Americans are so frustrated with the larger Democratic Party and Progressive movement. The fecklessness, unwillingness to fight even when you're in the right and the inability to stay on message and fall into the trap of right wing talking points every goddamned time. I mean this whole Biden dropping out thing is happening out of FEAR let's be real. And that fear came from the top of the DNC and their mega-donors. it may work out in the end, maybe, but let's not pretend that this was brilliant political strategy at play here. Dems seem to constantly be willing to snatch defeat freom the jaws of victory. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberon Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 ooh burn 11 hours ago, Spork3245 said: 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Bacon said: 1. It always has been 2. I'm a mello yello man I can attest to this from past posts. You have always been a mello yello man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 minutes ago, Oberon said: ooh burn Let's go!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 7 minutes ago, Oberon said: ooh burn Wow, shots fired worse than that kid in Pennsylvania ever did. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 7 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: This is why a lot of African Americans are so frustrated with the larger Democratic Party and Progressive movement. The fecklessness, unwillingness to fight even when you're in the right and the inability to stay on message and fall into the trap of right wing talking points every goddamned time. I mean this whole Biden dropping out thing is happening out of FEAR let's be real. And that fear came from the top of the DNC and their mega-donors. it may work out in the end, maybe, but let's not pretend that this was brilliant political strategy at play here. Dems seem to constantly be willing to snatch defeat freom the jaws of victory. I remember hearing a saying, something like, "People think politics is about winning arguments. It's not, it's about dictating what arguments you have." I don't think people even realized just how thoroughly the GOP had won the fight to make the campaign about age. It had hit the mainstream to the point where you would have thought it was the only issue that even matters in a presidential race. I think people in the future will look back and ask, "Why exactly did one mediocre debate performance force Joe out of the race?" Because they won't understand the context that the GOP had already so thoroughly saturated the zone with the "age issue" that people were watching Joe with a magnifying glass just waiting for any slip. 4 minutes ago, Oberon said: ooh burn I am trying to remember what specific roast it was from, but that is literally a joke from one of them. Though instead of that last sentence the punchline is, "But enough about Donald Trump." 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Let her cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Because they won't understand the context that the GOP had already so thoroughly saturated the zone with the "age issue" that people were watching Joe with a magnifying glass just waiting for any slip. I also don’t think the double standard that democrats are subject to will be as apparent looking back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 minute ago, Chairslinger said: "Why exactly did one mediocre debate performance force Joe out of the race?" Bro, it was much more than just a "mediocre" debate.... It was a colossal failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 17 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: I remember hearing a saying, something like, "People think politics is about winning arguments. It's not, it's about dictating what arguments you have." I don't think people even realized just how thoroughly the GOP had won the fight to make the campaign about age. It had hit the mainstream to the point where you would have thought it was the only issue that even matters in a presidential race. I think people in the future will look back and ask, "Why exactly did one mediocre debate performance force Joe out of the race?" Because they won't understand the context that the GOP had already so thoroughly saturated the zone with the "age issue" that people were watching Joe with a magnifying glass just waiting for any slip. I am trying to remember what specific roast it was from, but that is literally a joke from one of them. Though instead of that last sentence the punchline is, "But enough about Donald Trump." The Democrats have let the GOP completely control how we talk about a lot of issues. "Illegal immigrant" and "catch and release" are both GOP framings of immigration for example. Notice how the Democrats do better on issues where they don't let this happen, e.g. abortion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 38 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: This is what was so frustrating about the past month with everything feeling hopeless. While I will think we are long past the hope of the "fever breaking" in DC I think we are one election win away from the GOP having to drastically reinvent themselves. They have rode Trump's celebrity for a decade, sacrificed any party identity to his ego, and I doubt they even know what they are without him anymore. It was like a nightmare where you can't move this past month seeing Dems all but surrender to a second Trump term when we are so close to putting an end to the Trump era AND cripple the GOP in one fell swoop.... Even if Trump wins there isn't an heir to Trumpism. Vance would be lucky to not eat it in an open primary, and if he made it to the general would be easy pickings for the most mediocre Democrat. I typed that while sipping a Mtn Dew Zero, eat shit chuds, I'm keeping it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 38 minutes ago, Best said: I can attest to this from past posts. You have always been a mello yello man! Mello Yello is still a thing? I'm a Sprite/7up man meself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 Just now, finaljedi said: Even if Trump wins there isn't an heir to Trumpism. If Trump wins the heir to Trumpism won't need to be worried about silly things like being able to win elections. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Mello Yello is still a thing? I'm a Sprite/7up man meself. It never stopped being there. Just not as popular. The name does suck. Sounds like a nickname for piss. It is a far better-tasting citrus drink. You can actually taste and smell the orange juice in it. Whereas MTN DEW has some fake lime flavor to it despite having nearly the same ingredients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, Chairslinger said: We have seen before that even if the GOP has devolved under Trump, most of their politicians don't get the same Teflon Don treatment. So I think the Trump campaign is going to have to reign in Vance on this kind of behavior. But then you are left wondering why did they pick him in the first place if not for this? Until you see it, I don't think you realize just how cringe it is to see a less popular, less slick version of Trump doing Trump things. It reminds me of being a kid and you know the small annoying kid that would follow the bully around and just repeat everything the bully said......that's what Vance comes off trying to do Trump's act as Trump's VP It's always been cringy when Trump did it too. But he has some moron-specific reality distortion field that makes them think it's clever for reasons that are incomprehensible to anyone but the morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, legend said: It's always been cringy when Trump did it too. But he has some moron-specific reality distortion field that makes them think it's clever for reasons that are incomprehensible to anyone but the morons. How can he be dumb? He’s rich! Also I was born yesterday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 14 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Mello Yello is still a thing? I'm a Sprite/7up man meself. This post let me know 7up is still a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 14 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Mello Yello is still a thing? I'm a Sprite/7up man meself. Yes, my last job had mello yello in the soda machine. Unfortunately I do like Mountain Dew but since it's the drink of choice for chuds I'm no longer drinking it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link200 Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: This is why a lot of African Americans are so frustrated with the larger Democratic Party and Progressive movement. The fecklessness, unwillingness to fight even when you're in the right and the inability to stay on message and fall into the trap of right wing talking points every goddamned time. I mean this whole Biden dropping out thing is happening out of FEAR let's be real. And that fear came from the top of the DNC and their mega-donors. it may work out in the end, maybe, but let's not pretend that this was brilliant political strategy at play here. Dems seem to constantly be willing to snatch defeat freom the jaws of victory. I honestly believe there are more of us than you expect that didn't want a second Biden term from the start. In my case it is a breath of fresh air now that he dropped out. Biden did the job he needed to do. He beat Trump in 2020 and got some important things done over the last 4 years. Time to pass the torch on to the next generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 They can take Diet Mountain Dew from my cold dead hands 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 3 minutes ago, legend said: It's always been cringy when Trump did it too. But he has some moron-specific reality distortion field that makes them think it's clever for reasons that are incomprehensible to anyone but the morons. Trump gets away with it because it feels genuine. He's a shitbag liar, but he wears his emotions on his sleeve and his improv riffing on shit like showerheads and Hannibal Lector feel genuine. Vance told that shitty Mountain Dew joke not because he thought it was funny, but because he thought the dumbasses who hear it would think it was funny. He feels like a weird phony because he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 The true connoisseur prefers Surge over Mt Dew 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: They can take Diet Mountain Dew from my cold dead hands Cold, of course, from holding a nice frosty Diet Mountain Dew. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 20 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: I remember hearing a saying, something like, "People think politics is about winning arguments. It's not, it's about dictating what arguments you have." I don't think people even realized just how thoroughly the GOP had won the fight to make the campaign about age. It had hit the mainstream to the point where you would have thought it was the only issue that even matters in a presidential race. I think people in the future will look back and ask, "Why exactly did one mediocre debate performance force Joe out of the race?" Because they won't understand the context that the GOP had already so thoroughly saturated the zone with the "age issue" that people were watching Joe with a magnifying glass just waiting for any slip. The G.O.P. learned this a long time ago... it didn't start with the Biden age thing. It actually predated Trump and so did the Democratic party's inability to defend against it. I mean the successfully branded Hilary with all kinds of shit to the point that she was less popular than her husband who actually DID the shit they were blaming her for. Granted, our media doesn't help... between the 24 hour news cycle's need to feed the beast with bullshit "stories" and a WHOLE media ecosystem devoted to bullshit talking points and propoganda, it was important for democrats to not only stay on message, but to HAVE a consistent message. Dems continue to fail this test everytime. Maybe this is the pivot point where with new blood we'll see a new Democratic party once the old guard . Time will tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 Harris now has the pledged support of 1,489 delegates, and she needs 1,976 to win. 75% of the way there in 24 hours. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 19 minutes ago, Link200 said: I honestly believe there are more of us than you expect that didn't want a second Biden term from the start. In my case it is a breath of fresh air now that he dropped out. Biden did the job he needed to do. He beat Trump in 2020 and got some important things done over the last 4 years. Time to pass the torch on to the next generation. So you do it in the most disorganized, manic way possible? We had a whole primary season a couple of months ago... if you were going to do it, you do it then. We'd better be thanking whoeover or whatever people think is pulling the strings that Trump is such a god awful candidate because otherwise the Dems would be getting buried and rightfully so. There's no way anyone can tell me this was the best way to "pass the torch" regardless of the outcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 jfc is she a fucking hack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 17 minutes ago, Jason said: Cold, of course, from holding a nice frosty Diet Mountain Dew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 22 Share Posted July 22 2 minutes ago, Jason said: jfc is she a fucking hack I would rather have a beer with Harris than with Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 26 minutes ago, finaljedi said: Trump gets away with it because it feels genuine. He's a shitbag liar, but he wears his emotions on his sleeve and his improv riffing on shit like showerheads and Hannibal Lector feel genuine. Vance told that shitty Mountain Dew joke not because he thought it was funny, but because he thought the dumbasses who hear it would think it was funny. He feels like a weird phony because he is. But the thing is he isn’t genuine. He’s the most obvious pathological liar that ever lied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 14 minutes ago, Jason said: jfc is she a fucking hack I’d have a Mountain Dew with her though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 31 minutes ago, Jason said: jfc is she a fucking hack Trump is famously a teetotaler…so what are we doing here? Oh I know. The media is desperate for Trump to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Both Trump and Biden are not alcohol drinkers Bush Junior didn't drink either. Maybe the nation just needs a drinker at the helm? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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