Chairslinger Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, marioandsonic said: GIVE ME A MODICUM OF OPTIMISM PLEASE With all the talk of how news outlets have been going easy on Trump lately I am a little surprised to see that most headlines are even more positive on Kamala, her winning, and by how much than this board was. Like I think we were all cautiously optimistic after the first debate and managing expectations with a "As long as she doesn't totally fuck up it's good for her" mindset. Meanwhile I am seeing most headlines are saying some variation of "She won, and it wasn't close" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 6 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Moderators are fully on Harris's side, giving her a chance to respond to Trump's stupidity on every topic they bring up. Good. I don’t consider basic push back on pure and insane lies to be fact checking in a traditional sense: it’s just common sense. Allowing Harris to respond is also pretty normal. This is just, IMO, moderators actually doing their job; we’ve gotten all too used to silence from “journalists” with them not doing even the basics of their job and have normalized a lack of basic journalistic integrity since 2015 or so. It may seem like they are “on her side”, but they aren’t, they’re just actually doing their job. It’s like how when an unbiased article is listing facts it appears to be left leaning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 5 hours ago, SaysWho? said: Walz said Trump was an old man yelling at the clouds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 "Who won the debate?" Harris: 63% Trump: 37% - CNN/SSRS Snap Poll - 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Washington Posts panel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 hours ago, Jason said: This is the biggest loser shit I’ve ever seen. No wonder he keeps getting divorced and no wonder his adult children have nothing to do with him. Just a phony loser sitting at home all night refreshing his feed, looking at his likes. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Who won the debate Harris 55% Trump 43% Trafalgar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I set an alarm to watch this but someone called my phone which breaks the alarm. But how weird would it have been to accept @stepee's phone just for the alarm and then be sleeping next to it now? In any case what I mean is I missed the debate but with everyone gushing about it I kind of want to watch the replay, but an hour and a half long eeeeh? Anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 hours ago, Bacon said: Sounds like almost everyone was having a good night. I beat Astro Bot, Wade was playing Warhammer, and the rest of D1P enjoyed a savage beating of a deranged old man! I missed the first half of the debate to play AstroBot. I only caught the tail half of it because then I laid down for bed and my wife had it on unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Keyser_Soze Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Can't believe he went woke and said African American! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 39 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: Who won the debate Harris 55% Trump 43% Trafalgar “ARE YOU SAYING 43% OF AMERICANS ARE IDIOTS?” -Trafalgar …yea, at least 43% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 BTW, I legitimately forgot (or blocked out) Trump inviting Taliban members to Camp David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 lol JessieLouise (@hamlinthe_best_dog) on Threads WWW.THREADS.NET No intro needed…😂🤣 this statement just ended Trumps hold on MAGA… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 4 hours ago, Jason said: 4 hours ago, Jason said: 3 hours ago, Jason said: 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 That might be the most pathetic, cringe, desperate, and gross things I’ve ever seen a public person post on Al Gore’s internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 It's kind of interesting to me (not saying it's wrong necessarily) that Harris has veered so hard into the center. The problem with Biden wasn't that people who voted for him in 2020 were going to vote for Trump in 2024, the problem was the amount of people who were just going to stay home. They are doubling down on neoliberalism at the sake of progressive messaging, which could potentially backfire if progressives in PA and GA stay home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 So what's everyone thinking about a VP debate at this point? My off the cuff impression is that the Trump campaign would be insane to risk sending Vance out there to probably put the Weird Icing on that Weird Cake Trump served up last night. What say you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 15 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: So what's everyone thinking about a VP debate at this point? My off the cuff impression is that the Trump campaign would be insane to risk sending Vance out there to probably put the Weird Icing on that Weird Cake Trump served up last night. What say you? An hour and a half of J.D. trying to workshop a "Tim Walz horse drank horse cum" joke, on the spot, culminating in J.D. somehow admitting he once drank horse cum. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 52 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: So what's everyone thinking about a VP debate at this point? My off the cuff impression is that the Trump campaign would be insane to risk sending Vance out there to probably put the Weird Icing on that Weird Cake Trump served up last night. What say you? I am in for Coach Vs. Couch Fucker, 2024! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: How do you raise negative money!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 3 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: How do you raise negative money!? That’s when the bean counters fix the spreadsheets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 I thought Kamala did well but here's my d1p take: She occasionally swallowed loudly. I can't vote for someone like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: She occasionally swallowed loudly. Why are you making this a sex thing, pervert? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 29 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: So what's everyone thinking about a VP debate at this point? My off the cuff impression is that the Trump campaign would be insane to risk sending Vance out there to probably put the Weird Icing on that Weird Cake Trump served up last night. What say you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 My take is that this debate needed to cast Kamala in a strong position and she did the job last night. The GOP is a cult, so reality, facts, etc have much less impact on their rank and file, so I'm doubtful of the needle jumping because of this. That said, This debate clearly provided more content (talking points/Ad materials) for the Dems and gave Trump and team really nothing to work with. Net gain for the dems, hard spinning/damage control back at the Legion of Dumb's headquarters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 When I have time later tonight, I’m going to sit down and read about the debate. Sounded good. I did meet a woman here wearing a Kamala hat and I passed by and complimented her. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 43 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: So what's everyone thinking about a VP debate at this point? My off the cuff impression is that the Trump campaign would be insane to risk sending Vance out there to probably put the Weird Icing on that Weird Cake Trump served up last night. What say you? Only if Walz sneaks subtle couch/couch-adjacent references into every rebuttal. "This reminds me of the time I was teaching my students about the Ottoman empire..." "I'll be honest, my opponent is being a bit of a Lay-z-boy here..." "It's like I told the kids from my school's baseball team before they went to sectionals..." "I believe in being a good neighbor. If my neighbor's had a rough night, I offer them a place on the loveseat and talk to them about their problems..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 7 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: My take is that this debate needed to cast Kamala in a strong position and she did the job last night. The GOP is a cult, so reality, facts, etc have much less impact on their rank and file, so I'm doubtful of the needle jumping because of this. That said, This debate clearly provided more content (talking points/Ad materials) for the Dems and gave Trump and team really nothing to work with. Net gain for the dems, hard spinning/damage control back at the Legion of Dumb's headquarters. Like I've said, no one who voted for Trump in 2020 is suddenly going to vote for Harris now, and no one who voted for Biden in 2020 is suddenly going to vote for Trump now. Their problem was people staying home. The Dems faced a decision: Do you pander to the "moderates" (who are really just people like my dad who are conservatives that just don't get down with the culture war shit but would happily vote Republican if it was anyone but Trump) and risk the progressives staying home in November, or do you pander to the progressives and risk the moderates staying home? They have firmly chosen the former, and I feel like that's what they tried to do with Hillary in 2016 and she lost. I feel like it's been long since time that they need to lean into progressive policies, not run from them. In 2016, two states that were KEY in Trump winning were Michigan and Wisconsin - BERNIE BEAT HILLARY IN THOSE STATES. You can only campaign so much on "yeah we suck, but at least we're not Trump." Progressive policies actually inspire people to vote for something, not simply against something. The vast majority of Americans WANT free access to healthcare, they want legalized marijuana, they want access to safe abortions, they want more restrictions on gun ownership, these are all positions that the GOP cannot have. LEAN INTO IT. They're afraid to do it because they are still trying to court "moderates." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 1 hour ago, Chairslinger said: So what's everyone thinking about a VP debate at this point? My off the cuff impression is that the Trump campaign would be insane to risk sending Vance out there to probably put the Weird Icing on that Weird Cake Trump served up last night. What say you? I can imagine JD leaving mid debate and giving up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 JaxLaw (@jaxlaw2023) on Threads WWW.THREADS.NET Over 45 million dollars raised on ActBlue (Main Democratic Fundraising Vehicle) TODAY! over 45 million raised yesterday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 Trump on fox this morning said he didn't know if he wanted to do the September 25th debate that his campaign had been saying kamala was too afraid to do, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 25 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Like I've said, no one who voted for Trump in 2020 is suddenly going to vote for Harris now, and no one who voted for Biden in 2020 is suddenly going to vote for Trump now. Their problem was people staying home. The Dems faced a decision: Do you pander to the "moderates" (who are really just people like my dad who are conservatives that just don't get down with the culture war shit but would happily vote Republican if it was anyone but Trump) and risk the progressives staying home in November, or do you pander to the progressives and risk the moderates staying home? They have firmly chosen the former, and I feel like that's what they tried to do with Hillary in 2016 and she lost. I feel like it's been long since time that they need to lean into progressive policies, not run from them. In 2016, two states that were KEY in Trump winning were Michigan and Wisconsin - BERNIE BEAT HILLARY IN THOSE STATES. You can only campaign so much on "yeah we suck, but at least we're not Trump." Progressive policies actually inspire people to vote for something, not simply against something. The vast majority of Americans WANT free access to healthcare, they want legalized marijuana, they want access to safe abortions, they want more restrictions on gun ownership, these are all positions that the GOP cannot have. LEAN INTO IT. They're afraid to do it because they are still trying to court "moderates." Actually I'd say the positions in that last paragraph can be characterized, with the exception of 'free access to healthcare', as centrist positions now, given the current electorate. (American views on free healthcare are complicated and oftentimes don't conform totally to the usual left/right divisions of other issues) And Harris is actually supportive of almost all of them, minus healthcare (where she's in the half-way public, half-way private realm of Obamacare) and national legalization of marijuana. Progressive policies (in America, that is) are now more in the realm of 'high taxes for high-income individuals/large corporations', 'regulation of business and industry to prevent climate change', 'more protections/freedom for the 'T' in LGBTQ', and a few other things. They don't poll quite as well and I can see why Harris wouldn't lean too much into them to win a national election...but that might change in the future. Kinda depends on how conservative or liberal the millenial cohort as a whole turns out to be when they get older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 24 minutes ago, Reputator said: JaxLaw (@jaxlaw2023) on Threads WWW.THREADS.NET Over 45 million dollars raised on ActBlue (Main Democratic Fundraising Vehicle) TODAY! over 45 million raised yesterday They sent enough text messages during the fucking debate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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