Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Obama wants an open convention? Gtfo, man. they need to call it an open convention with near unanimous support for the nominee so it looks like the democratic party has their shit together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 3 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: I don't get it Trump donated money to Harris in the past to get her elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 12 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It honestly wouldn't surprise me at all if there wasn't at least some consideration being given to an anti-Trump Republican (say, the Lt. Governor of Georgia) being asked to join as VP in a kind of "national unity" ticket. That would be interesting and getting someone from Georgia is a good play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 32 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Kinzinger isn’t a former Republican. He is still a Republican. Just hates Trump. Should of added former representative, since they aren’t in office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 What are the chances we get another debate between whoever the Dem candidate is and Donald? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I agree with you guys that Kamela should debate Trump. I've seen her in debates before and she is fiery and sharp. I understand she can get a bit wacky at times but I honestly don't recall that side of her while debating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 35 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Pelosi didn’t endorse Harris last I checked either. There may be a split in how to proceed after all. 29 minutes ago, finaljedi said: Ah yes, an open chaotic convention with no clear candidate for another month is just what they need to be serious about taking Trump on. They should have made a deal to shuffle Pelosi out of politics along with Biden. Pelosi is 3 years older than Joe and hasn't looked sharp in years. If Joe is a problem why the hell is anyone listening to her? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 The problem with these open convention people is they need a candidate and from what I can see all the major ones have said no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeTo Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I really want Pete for 2028. Would it be good or bad for him to run as VP with Kamela? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 24 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: What are the chances we get another debate between whoever the Dem candidate is and Donald? It wouldn't surprise me at all if Trump was like "I am prepared to debate Sleepy Joe, but will not debate an illegitimate opponent" and skips out on the last 3 debates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 7 minutes ago, CheeTo said: I really want Pete for 2028. Would it be good or bad for him to run as VP with Kamela? If you want Pete to run for president in 2028, it means Kamala needs to lose in 2024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 This is a good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 6 minutes ago, CheeTo said: I really want Pete for 2028. Would it be good or bad for him to run as VP with Kamela? Pete probably isn't even being considered as VP at this point because of the "high risk" situation that the party finds itself in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 26 minutes ago, Chairslinger said: Pelosi is 3 years older than Joe and hasn't looked sharp in years. If Joe is a problem why the hell is anyone listening to her? Plus her going around calling people sexist for pointing out Feinstein didn't know what year it was. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 This is the right move. Picking Harris in 2020 was a mistake but she’s a much better candidate than Biden at this moment. I 100% guarantee that Trump and his team of ghouls prefer Biden over anyone. This is not what they wanted. Imagine if the Republican Party had the morals and balls to push Trump aside. Too bad it’s a party of sniveling amoral cowards. I wonder if Trump will debate her. He pretty much has to right? Harris isn’t the best debater in the world but she’s better than the fossilized remains of Joe Biden. I’m pretty sure a random high school senior would be a better debater than 82 year old Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 Trump is already trying to weasel out of any debate with Harris. This is her chance to frame their relationship in the campaign. She should outright come out as a bully and say that only a coward would refuse to debate her. Ask him publicly if he's scared of little old her. She needs to take off the gloves. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 6 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Trump is already trying to weasel out of any debate with Harris. This is her chance to frame their relationship in the campaign. She should outright come out as a bully and say that only a coward would refuse to debate her. Ask him publicly if he's scared of little old her. She needs to take off the gloves. One thing that Trump has done this year that doesn't get talked about enough is that he has ran a relatively disciplined campaign compared to 2016 and 2020(I suspect it is because he is genuinely spooked that winning or losing probably decides whether he spends the better part of the rest of his life in prison). But I mostly agree here. Kamala needs to make him either debate her, or absolutely destroy his tough guy persona by refusing to do so. Right now his campaign is begging Trump not to debate her and every fiber of his being is telling him he just needs to get on stage and shut her up. Kamala needs to rattle his cage to make sure he "goes with his gut". Trump could have rested on his laurels and not debated Joe again and it would probably have been a wash at best. If he refuses to debate Harris she can basically bundle up every weakness he has into one attack on him. Trump can lean into the "illegitimate candidate" thing, but I don't think that gains much traction as long as it's Harris. She isn't illegitimate....she has literally been one step away from being the president herself for the past 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 why do so many people in here like mayo pete. he don’t have the sauce to be president. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeTo Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 22 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Pete probably isn't even being considered as VP at this point because of the "high risk" situation that the party finds itself in. Because he's gay? I mainly wouldn't want him to run and lose and have that tainted for next term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Kamala got Jeff Sessions to admit on camera that he was intimidated by her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 11 minutes ago, johnny said: why do so many people in here like mayo pete. he don’t have the sauce to be president. The person doing best in the polls against Trump is Generic Democrat....and nobody embodies Generic Democrat like Pete. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 Only joking, but at the convention: Harris: "I thank you for the nomination. But the last four years have shown that you need a strong Biden on the team. That is why I am announcing that Biden will be my VP!" And then Hunter Biden walks into the stage. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 While I'm surprised Joe stepped aside, I'm all in on whatever chaos this brings. I do think that this helps the Dems because the Republican machine was built to go against Biden, not Harris, and she will be a much harder target to hit (beyond the racism and sexism, which won't look good nationally). I'm all in, let's go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 15 minutes ago, johnny said: why do so many people in here like mayo pete. he don’t have the sauce to be president. Honestly put him in a debate with any republican probably for the next generation and he destroys them, hes is really good at confronting them. Getting people pumped at a rally, ehhhh not so much, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 10 minutes ago, CheeTo said: Because he's gay? I mainly wouldn't want him to run and lose and have that tainted for next term. Unfortunately, that's correct - the combination of a POC woman at the top of the ticket and a gay man as VP might simply be "too much" risk. It freakin' sucks, but that's the reality of the hand we've been dealt in 2024. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 So all of Biden's campaign staff are sticking around and now have jobs under Harris, thats pretty smooth. On an all-staff call earlier, Jen O'Malley Dillon told the Biden campaign: "While today is a big day of transition, nothing changes with why you got here and what we're all here to do. But the path forward is a path that is for all of us to do this together. So let me tell you what I know to be certain: which is that every single person here – whatever your job, whatever you're doing – you have a job." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 minute ago, PaladinSolo said: So all of Biden's campaign staff are sticking around and now have jobs under Harris, thats pretty smooth. well they’ve a bang up job so far. May as well drive the car all the way off the cliff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairslinger Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: While I'm surprised Joe stepped aside, I'm all in on whatever chaos this brings. I do think that this helps the Dems because the Republican machine was built to go against Biden, not Harris, and she will be a much harder target to hit (beyond the racism and sexism, which won't look good nationally). I'm all in, let's go. What I worry about is this.... "So we desperately needed to win back working class Rust Belt states so we dropped blue collar Scranton Joe who was the most outspoken president for unions ever and replaced him with a black woman from California!" That reads as facially devastating to me, but I understand there are extenuating circumstances. I worry that I am right and we just lost those swing votes in those swing states that won't decide who to vote for until a week or two before the election. But I said it before and I'll say it again. I have no ego in this as far as who to support. Anybody but Trump, Blue no matter who. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: What are the chances we get another debate between whoever the Dem candidate is and Donald? Zero. And so far, I've been right about everything, including Joe not dropping out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 “Blue no matter who” seems to be where I am at, and has been for the last 2 elections. I’d just like to feel excited snd hopeful for what the person will do as President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 Delegates are already coming out in support. Tennessee delegates are for Harris. Some from Wisconsin, as well. I think behind the scenes there are likely thousands of calls being made to lock this up in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: Obama wants an open convention? Gtfo, man. AOC warned us Obama-Pelosi-Schumer were coming after Harris after they got rid of Biden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 Obama didn't endorse Harris but it read more like he's fine with whoever they pick, using whatever process, people read way too much into shit sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 What a crazy world. Trump gets shot, and the only campaign that ends is Biden's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Imagine thinking that Trump or anyone that would vote for him giving a single shit about him being hypocritical or changing his mind on something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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