Jwheel86 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 7 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: But if they want Harris out too, how the fuck is that going to work? They're just going to give up the $100M war chest for campaigning? Democrats, the party paid to lose. It can be transferred to the DNC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2024 National GE: Trump 43% (+2) Biden 41% 2024 National GE: Harris 44% Trump 44% IPSOS/Reuters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: It can be transferred to the DNC. Not a great look for the party's stability or morale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 5 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: It can be transferred to the DNC. This, infinite amount of money can be given to the DNC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 27 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: I think the debate performance was just an excuse to do what they were gonna do anyway. lol, no, Trump was a train wreck during the debate, its just Biden couldn't muster any defense against any of his BS, at times even managed to serve trump easy lay ups, and since then hes looks OK at times, but even then he'll not finish a thought when his stutter starts up or something and says "look, Anyways" and moves on without finishing what he was saying. There are a lot of normies out there seeing that and thinking "this man isn't going to last 4 more years" If Biden was who he was 4 years ago we would not being having this conversation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 If Newsome becomes the nominee (or even the VP nominee) I'm voting for Trump. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, mclumber1 said: If Newsome becomes the nominee (or even the VP nominee) I'm voting for Trump. Newsome (along with Whitmer) have allegedly already indicated that they're not interested in joining the ticket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Newsome (along with Whitmer) have allegedly already indicated that they're not interested in joining the ticket. I'd vote for: Whitmer Beshear Buttigieg Pollis Shaprio I would vote against: Newsome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Newsome (along with Whitmer) have allegedly already indicated that they're not interested in joining the ticket. My understanding is they aren't interested in being VP, I could be wrong, but if presidential nominee became available they might have other thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 DRAIN THE SWAMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Senate Polls: PENNSYLVANIA Bob Casey (D-Inc) 50% (+11) David McCormick (R) 39% . MICHIGAN Elissa Slotkin (D) 46% (+8) Mike Rogers (R) 38% . PENNSYLVANIA Trump 49% (+5) Biden 44% . MICHIGAN Trump 49% (+3) Biden 46% . @ppppolls / Clean and Prosperous America PAC (D), 1,274 RV, 7/17-18 Just the same drumbeat, Dems cruising statewide except Biden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I don't know why people are saying they'd vote for Trump over Newsom. I'd vote for Bob Menendez over Trump with a smile on my face. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Just now, ThreePi said: I don't know why people are saying they'd vote for Trump over Newsom. I'd vote for Bob Menendez over Trump with a smile on my face. Smarm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 13 hours ago, Ricofoley said: If they're still trying to push out Biden AND Kamala then it's not a serious plan. Team Ridin' with Biden. Give him a coffee mug full of 5 Hour Energy every day. After snorting a line of hopium, I hallucinated about a future in which, after an all-out effort by the party brass to defenestrate Biden, he stays in, and then on election day Republicans are so resolutely confident in a Trump victory that they don't bother voting, and Democrats are so horrified by what they presume is the inevitability of Trump 2.0 that they blow through previous turnout records, and Biden squeaks out a victory. Then I smoked a bowl of copium and looked into the polling history of prior incumbent presidents, and noted that they consistently overperform their numbers. It was a nice strain and I will probably return to it again before this is all over. If the Dems actually win this election, you will find me in rehab--happy as a clam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Dems should run Shapiro just to trick the 20-something YouTube bros. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 52 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: If Newsome becomes the nominee (or even the VP nominee) I'm voting for Trump. Good thing there is no guy named Newsome, seems your vote is safe if Newsom is the nominee. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Jason said: If there really is this polling we have every right to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I do wonder what happens to the GOP if Trump does lose, no real successor has emerged, MAGA will have been handed multiple defeats, and the MAGA wing is not compatible with the old GOP, which they burned that bridge right after they crossed it, while this past convention basically erased the GOP entirely and was only about him and I can't see Trump making the attempt for a 4th time at 82. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Also if it’s not Harris then it’s going to be an ugly internal fight and will cost the election. Does no one remember 2016? Imagine that, but more fractured and taking place within a couple weeks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Vice President Kamala Harris to Speak With Major Democratic Donors - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM The call comes as turmoil roils the party and its donor base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 15 minutes ago, PaladinSolo said: I do wonder what happens to the GOP if Trump does lose, no real successor has emerged, MAGA will have been handed multiple defeats, and the MAGA wing is not compatible with the old GOP, which they burned that bridge right after they crossed it, while this past convention basically erased the GOP entirely and was only about him and I can't see Trump making the attempt for a 4th time at 82. No idea. I thought they'd pivot away from him and treat him like a leper after 2020 and Jan 6. Parties typically don't invite the guy who lost his incumbent election around for a while. But I suppose he dumped out enough of the actual Republicans for his own people to leave them no choice. Even if he does win, he's old as shit, he's either dead or super decrepit in a decade. No one has his magnetism, they're left with his shitty ideology paired with imbeciles like Greene and Gaetz or uncharismatic dorks like Vance and Desantis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 9 minutes ago, finaljedi said: No idea. I thought they'd pivot away from him and treat him like a leper after 2020 and Jan 6. Parties typically don't invite the guy who lost his incumbent election around for a while. But I suppose he dumped out enough of the actual Republicans for his own people to leave them no choice. Even if he does win, he's old as shit, he's either dead or super decrepit in a decade. No one has his magnetism, they're left with his shitty ideology paired with imbeciles like Greene and Gaetz or uncharismatic dorks like Vance and Desantis. They're scared of his base literally murdering them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 57 minutes ago, Jason said: They're scared of his base literally murdering them. I wonder why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 The fact that the GOP is still on the Trump train is just baffling to me. I feel like him winning the initial GOP primary was an accident and they've been just riding this wild bronco ever since. One thing though, it's really proven just how morally bankrupt the entire party is. They literally stand for nothing and believe in nothing as has been evidenced by the last 8 years. What's funny is they think that their continued delusion of pretending that trump and the maga movement is anything even close to normal or political as usual has most people convinced. No, most people see right through that shit. You're only convincing the dumbest and worst people who live in this country. They've become the party of whiny jerks, the party of never-ending victimhood, the party of sniveling weakness, the party of liars, the party of racists, the party of the worst, dumbest most vile people ever and they seem so happy with themselves. Fuck them all is what I say. FUCK THEM ALL. You can't pretend like you didn't support that madman a decade from now. The Trump stink is on the party forever, and if you stood with Trump, I will NEVER RESPECT YOU. EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, Jason said: They're scared of his base literally murdering them. Look at how the Democrats are handling prominent members of the party calling for Biden to step aside and imagine if anyone in the GOP did the same to Trump. Imagine how Trump would be reacting if he was facing the same internal pressure from his party as Biden is now. Look at what has happened to any republicans who stood against Trump. They've been politically ostracized and removed from the party in total disgrace. They have no room for sanity. Anyone who correctly points out that the Emperor isn't wearing clothes is instantly demonized because they can't show even a single crack in the armor of lies they've constructed to normalize the insanity the party has embraced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Has anyone asked Harris if she actually wants it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, Jwheel86 said: Has anyone asked Harris if she actually wants it? Well she did run in the 2020 primary and she IS running for re-election as a VP to an 81 year old, so yeah I don't feel like she's ever ruled it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 39 minutes ago, ort said: Look at what has happened to any republicans who stood against Trump. They've been politically ostracized and removed from the party in total disgrace. They have no room for sanity. Anyone who correctly points out that the Emperor isn't wearing clothes is instantly demonized because they can't show even a single crack in the armor of lies they've constructed to normalize the insanity the party has embraced. Those are the kinds of vibes that the Democracy in North Korea is built on.. Im just waiting for them to finally start testing the waters for Trump Jr… the Trump crime family has made too much money on this grift to give it up.. specially since the rubes are so cowardly and gullible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeRoden Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 hours ago, PaladinSolo said: Senate Polls: PENNSYLVANIA Bob Casey (D-Inc) 50% (+11) David McCormick (R) 39% . MICHIGAN Elissa Slotkin (D) 46% (+8) Mike Rogers (R) 38% . PENNSYLVANIA Trump 49% (+5) Biden 44% . MICHIGAN Trump 49% (+3) Biden 46% . @ppppolls / Clean and Prosperous America PAC (D), 1,274 RV, 7/17-18 Just the same drumbeat, Dems cruising statewide except Biden. Is it possible to have a Megazord of swing state Senators run for President? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 3 hours ago, ThreePi said: I don't know why people are saying they'd vote for Trump over Newsom. I'd vote for Bob Menendez over Trump with a smile on my face. It's fucking silly and indicitive of how "issues" don't matter. Our elections are basically popularity contests based on cult of personality and celebrity. Americans are doing their damndest to show the rest of the world that Democracy just doesn't work 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 F 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin King Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 I'd challenge a bit the notion that the issues don't matter. Yes cult of personality is number 1, but if issues didn't matter, why doesn't Trump just take on positions that are clearly popular and syphon off centrist/leftist votes? Republicans are chaotic and not well organized, but they're not idiots, they're just liars and grifters. They either are not good grifters or the issues do actually matter to them. I'd say the old Republican issues didn't matter to them and Trump has given them the permission to put on front street the issues that do matter to them, even if it actually hurts their chances on winning. Surprising since winning and power seems to be the only thing he cares about. I just think the instant gratification of the MAGA crowds cheering for him gets in the way of him being better at winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 President's physician stating that treatment is going well. I'm going to take this to mean he isn't going to use COVID as an excuse to fulfill the fantasy of some to exit the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 Only positive tests results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 That’s probably more information given than what Trump gave when the fat bastard blessedly nearly died 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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