LazyPiranha Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 22 minutes ago, AshsToAshs said: The fact that both Nintendo and Tropic Haze are now asking the judge to say yes to following feels weird: (that's taken from the verge article linked above) This is tinfoil hat conspiracy talk, but that very much feels like Nintendo is telling Tropic Haze to go along with requesting this statement in exchange for not having to get sued for a harsher fine. EDIT: also, if the judge goes along with that statement, then every "bring your own BIOS" emulator is now going to less legal. Taking the smaller L now instead of the bigger L at trial is 95% of lawyering. There is no tin foil hat required, that’s just the system working as intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 On 2/27/2024 at 10:42 PM, crispy4000 said: So I'm thinking of downloading Yuzu for the first time now, just in case some shit goes down. Thanks Nintendo. On 2/28/2024 at 12:59 AM, Bacon said: I just did an hour ago lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 4 Author Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Nintendo Switch emulator Yuzu will utterly fold and pay $2.4M to settle its lawsuit - The Verge WWW.THEVERGE.COM Just about a week after getting sued. Settling at least means no precedent has been set here for emulation in general, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Yuzu Shuts Down to Better Emulate Video Game Industry HARD-DRIVE.NET Embattled Nintendo Switch emulator Yuzu has announced today that they intend to shut down the company as one last emulation of the entire video game… 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Citra has been shut down as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 How can big bad Nintendo keep getting away with all of the bullying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Well, balls in your court ryujinx! Though yuzu is so far along and open source i wouldn’t be surprised if it’s still updated by others in unofficial versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I think I might download some emulators just to spite Nintendo. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameDadGrant Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Oh my gosh how did this happen I’m so surprised 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Least surprising outcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysDyingX Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 hours ago, ThreePi said: Woof. I love Yuzu. I am maybe one of the few that only play may own legit rips, but the last few Switch games I bought I played through on Yuzu. Same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Funny how some of the exact same people who act all sad when these game studios have to lay off 900 of their staff are the same people who enjoy playing games like this for free. Basically taking money right out of their pockets by not paying for the product. Again irony at its best. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 9 minutes ago, Biggie said: Funny how some of the exact same people who act all sad when these game studios have to lay off 900 of their staff are the same people who enjoy playing games like this for free. Basically taking money right out of their pockets by not paying for the product. Again irony at its best. Vague accusations that people belong to two groups are not particularly helpful. Name names if you got em! I certainly don't pirate games. I do, however, emulate old games purchased in the past and have considered emulating modern games I legally purchased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Yeah I got yuzu but I haven't used it lol. I also own a switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Layoffs aren’t always correlated to lower revenue/sales. Activision reported record year of revenue and profit with layoffs in the same earning calls in the past. Let’s not generalize layoffs. 9 minutes ago, legend said: Vague accusations that people belong to two groups are not particularly helpful. Name names if you got em! I certainly don't pirate games. I do, however, emulate old games purchased in the past and have considered emulating modern games I legally purchased. I don’t recall one person on this forum that emulates pirated games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 46 minutes ago, Biggie said: Funny how some of the exact same people who act all sad when these game studios have to lay off 900 of their staff are the same people who enjoy playing games like this for free. Basically taking money right out of their pockets by not paying for the product. Again irony at its best. Very interesting that one thing happens and yet an unrelated thing also happens. 2 hours ago, ShreddieMercury said: How can big bad Nintendo keep getting away with all of the bullying? Also interesting that you didn’t address any of the posts in response to your silliness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 How can the massive company keep getting away with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 10 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: Also interesting that you didn’t address any of the posts in response to your silliness. It's curious indeed. I don't really have much else to say! Yuzu only seems useful for people wanting to play commercially available Nintendo games at higher resolutions on different platforms, or pirates. It's beyond me that there is somehow surprise or consternation that Nintendo is going after Yuzu's highly profitable operation, which at this stage doesn't seem to have any kind of virtuous aim like digital preservation, consumer protection, etc. People are free to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, ShreddieMercury said: It's curious indeed. I don't really have much else to say! Yuzu only seems useful for people wanting to play commercially available Nintendo games at higher resolutions on different platforms, or pirates. It's beyond me that there is somehow surprise or consternation that Nintendo is going after Yuzu's highly profitable operation, which at this stage doesn't seem to have any kind of virtuous aim like digital preservation, consumer protection, etc. People are free to disagree. There was zero surprise at the move, and the consternation is from reasons you are choosing not to address. Maybe cuz you probably agree on some level I dunno why. That’s the weird part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Paperclyp said: Also interesting that you didn’t address any of the posts in response to your silliness. It’s my right not to address it. Just like it’s your right to use emulators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Just now, Biggie said: It’s my right not to address it. Just like it’s your right to use emulators. I wasn’t talking to you on that point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Brian said: Layoffs aren’t always correlated to lower revenue/sales. Activision reported record year of revenue and profit with layoffs in the same earning calls in the past. Let’s not generalize layoffs. I don’t recall one person on this forum that emulates pirated games. Well it certainly doesn’t help with layoffs. Hhhmmmm, not one person? Think reaaaaaaal hard. Take your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 3 hours ago, Biggie said: Funny how some of the exact same people who act all sad when these game studios have to lay off 900 of their staff are the same people who enjoy playing games like this for free. Basically taking money right out of their pockets by not paying for the product. Again irony at its best. You’re probably not too far off the mark, but making the Switch ecosystem healthier isn’t going to give people from Sony/EA/Microsoft/Embracer/etc their jobs back. Two largely unrelated problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 4 hours ago, Biggie said: Funny how some of the exact same people who act all sad when these game studios have to lay off 900 of their staff are the same people who enjoy playing games like this for free. Basically taking money right out of their pockets by not paying for the product. Again irony at its best. Playing very old, frequently unavailable or hard to find games, often made by developers and publishers that no longer exist who wouldn't get any of the money from someone buying the game as a resale from someone on Ebay or Amazon anyway, has very little to do with the layoffs currently in the industry. No one is emulating FF7 Rebirth. This isn't a very good argument against emulation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 2 hours ago, Biggie said: Well it certainly doesn’t help with layoffs. Hhhmmmm, not one person? Think reaaaaaaal hard. Take your time. Piracy is rarely brought up in earning calls as a business issue. I don’t think it has any real merit when it comes to layoffs for companies like Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, etc. Can’t think of anyone on the boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 10 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Playing very old, frequently unavailable or hard to find games, often made by developers and publishers that no longer exist who wouldn't get any of the money from someone buying the game as a resale from someone on Ebay or Amazon anyway, has very little to do with the layoffs currently in the industry. No one is emulating FF7 Rebirth. This isn't a very good argument against emulation. Well apparently the courts don’t agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Biggie said: Well apparently the courts don’t agree with you. That has nothing to do with the current layoffs wrecking the industry that you mentioned, and being pro-emulation has little to do with it. Not sure how the courts disagree when this case was settled, not decided. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Greatoneshere said: That has nothing to do with the current layoffs wrecking the industry that you mentioned, and being pro-emulation has little to do with it. Not sure how the courts disagree when this case was settled, not decided. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 51 minutes ago, Biggie said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Yuzu Nintendo Switch Emulator Lives On With The Nuzu, Suyu Projects WCCFTECH.COM Development of the Yuzu Nintendo Switch emulator was halted permanently, but it will continue to live on thanks to new projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 17 hours ago, Biggie said: Funny how some of the exact same people who act all sad when these game studios have to lay off 900 of their staff are the same people who enjoy playing games like this for free. Basically taking money right out of their pockets by not paying for the product. Again irony at its best. Layoffs at Sony, Microsoft and EA have very little to do with Yuzu. They have a whole lot to do with overinvestment in game development, and poor decisions in project scoping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 11 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Layoffs at Sony, Microsoft and EA have very little to do with Yuzu. They have a whole lot to do with overinvestment in game development, and poor decisions in project scoping. A lot of you have pointed this out. It’s probably true. But regardless emulators aren’t good for anyone in the video game business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Biggie said: A lot of you have pointed this out. It’s probably true. But regardless emulators aren’t good for anyone in the video game business. Is that why Nintendo emulates their own games for their Nintendo online? Because they are bad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 minute ago, Biggie said: A lot of you have pointed this out. It’s probably true. But regardless emulators aren’t good for anyone in the video game business. You're going to have to do a lot more work to argue that. Even with piracy specifically there can be surprising positive benefits on their market and emulators actually have a wide scope of acceptable usage beyond piracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 SUYU is a brilliant name for a successor, hats off to those involved in that naming! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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