Jason Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: I wish the same effort had been put into Foundation (in terms of doing the original ideas justice, not just throwing money at it for production values). You need people at the helm that understand the original work...not David S. Goyer. Plus keeping Jared Harris too busy to be on The Expanse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: I wish the same effort had been put into Foundation (in terms of doing the original ideas justice, not just throwing money at it for production values). You need people at the helm that understand the original work...not David S. Goyer. I vetted the writers' room under showrunners David S. Goyer (who I do not like) and Josh Friedman (who did Sarah Connor Chronicles) and I have to say the writers' room have written episodes for some good shows. I've really enjoyed Foundation so far, though it's bigger than a straight adaption of the first book. I'm a fan of the books, but the show has been mostly great in its own right, I've thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 11 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: I vetted the writers' room under showrunners David S. Goyer (who I do not like) and Josh Friedman (who did Sarah Connor Chronicles) and I have to say the writers' room have written episodes for some good shows. I've really enjoyed Foundation so far, though it's bigger than a straight adaption of the first book. I'm a fan of the books, but the show has been mostly great in its own right, I've thought. Agreed. I haven’t read the books but the show has been really fantastic so far. From what I understand Empire isn’t really featured as heavily in the main books? They show up more in the prequels? So if all the stuff with empire is different and has been added to the show, Bra-fucking-vo!!! Cause that shit is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Mercury33 said: Agreed. I haven’t read the books but the show has been really fantastic so far. From what I understand Empire isn’t really featured as heavily in the main books? They show up more in the prequels? So if all the stuff with empire is different and has been added to the show, Bra-fucking-vo!!! Cause that shit is incredible. Yeah, a lot of the stuff that fleshes out the empire are in Asimov's two prequel books rather than from the main original trilogy. And while they are adapting the main original trilogy stuff on Terminus, it's been fleshed out and expanded and changed due to this being a serial narrative rather than how the books work, but it's still all there more or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted October 22, 2021 Author Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 10/20/2021 at 9:18 PM, Greatoneshere said: I vetted the writers' room under showrunners David S. Goyer (who I do not like) and Josh Friedman (who did Sarah Connor Chronicles) and I have to say the writers' room have written episodes for some good shows. I've really enjoyed Foundation so far, though it's bigger than a straight adaption of the first book. I'm a fan of the books, but the show has been mostly great in its own right, I've thought. Correct. I've never read the books. And I think the show is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 For those of you who haven't read the books, I definitely recommend them - but the show is indeed great so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: For those of you who haven't read the books, I definitely recommend them - but the show is indeed great so far. I plan to watch it eventually. Apple TV isn’t one of my static subscriptions, so I will subscribe eventually for a month or two and binge the best shows. I’m looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mercury33 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I wonder if the first season will be more from Moraine’s perspective. Could be a smart change from the books since the show would feature its biggest name more prominently and you can drag out the secret of who the Dragon Reborn is still closer to the end of the season. Since in the book it’s pretty obvious who it is by chapter 2/3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Mercury33 said: I wonder if the first season will be more from Moraine’s perspective. Could be a smart change from the books since the show would feature its biggest name more prominently and you can drag out the secret of who the Dragon Reborn is still closer to the end of the season. Since in the book it’s pretty obvious who it is by chapter 2/3. Early on they announced she is the lead of the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Annnnnnd I’ve watched that like 7 times already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I’ve Seen the First Three Episodes of The Wheel of Time: Here’s Why You’re Going to Love It | Tor.com WWW.TOR.COM The much anticipated arrival of Amazon’s The Wheel of Time series, based on Robert Jordan’s fourteen novel epic, is only days away now, and hype is strong both for long-time fans of the books and t… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 Nice. Also, I'm sure that the site of the book publisher doesn't care if the show is good or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Well you can’t accuse Amazon of not being 100% behind this show. They’re doing a staggering amount of advertising for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heydude93 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 The Wheel of Time isn’t the next Game of Thrones – it’s the original WWW.TELEGRAPH.CO.UK Without Robert Jordan's sprawling fantasy series, there would be no Jon Snow or Daenerys Targaryen. Why did a TV adaptation take so long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Massdriver Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 70% on RT with 10 reviews so far. 5.7/10 rating average. Need more critics to get a better idea. The Wheel of Time WWW.ROTTENTOMATOES.COM Rotten Tomatoes, home of the Tomatometer, is the most trusted measurement of quality for Movies & TV. The definitive site for Reviews, Trailers, Showtimes, and Tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Amazon just renewed it for Season 3 already so unless this enters all time mega Bomb territory I don’t think they care and we’re gonna get this story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 The Wheel of Time Premiere Review: Episodes 1-3 - IGN WWW.IGN.COM Amazon Prime Video’s The Wheel of Time provides an excellent adaptation of the Robert Jordan series that could be a true successor to Game of Thrones. The Wheel of Time Review: You Don't Have to Know Robert Jordan's Fantasy World to Get Sucked Into The New Amazon Series WWW.TVGUIDE.COM Amazon Prime Video's adaptation of Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time gets off to a slow start, but as the episodes build, a new fantasy heavyweight emerges. The Wheel of Time Review: Prime Video's High Fantasy Adaptation Is Worthy of Such a Grand Adventure TVLINE.COM Prime Video's ambitious "The Wheel of Time" gets off to a promising start, but risks getting a little TOO ahead of itself. Wheel of Time subverts Thrones expectations to become fresh fantasy WWW.POLYGON.COM Newcomers and dragonsworn alike should click with this 'The Wheel of Time' Is Exactly the Show Robert Jordan Fans Want DECIDER.COM But will the average TV fan find the Amazon show as enchanting? The Wheel Of Time: Season 1 WWW.EMPIREONLINE.COM Robert Jordan's epic fantasy finally makes is way to the screen, getting the big budget series treatment from Amazon. Read the Empire review. 'The Wheel of Time' Review: Rosamund Pike Anchors an Intimate Fantasy Series About Power and Prophecy COLLIDER.COM The first three episodes of 'The Wheel of Time' premiere November 19 on Prime Video. Amazon’s Wheel of Time tries a little too hard to be Game of Thrones WWW.THEVERGE.COM The Wheel weaves as the Wheel wills. ‘The Wheel of Time’ Review: Amazon’s Fantasy Series Isn’t Great, but It Is Entertaining WWW.INDIEWIRE.COM In what feels like Amazon lowering the bar before "Lord of the Rings," "Wheel of Time" works fine as a frivolous diversion but nothing more. 'Wheel of Time' Grinds Things Like 'Plot' and 'Character' to a Screeching Halt WWW.ROLLINGSTONE.COM Amazon adaptation of Robert Jordan's beloved fantasy book series offers lovely scenery and little else. Read Alan Sepinwall's review. 'The Wheel of Time' is a progressive fantasy set up for the long run ENTERTAINMENT.IE ‘The Wheel of Time’ already has an illustrious history mapped out in its fourteen books written by Robert Jordan. It’s the best selling fantasy book in the worl... ‘The Wheel of Time’ Suffers From Too Much Story, Told Too Hurriedly: TV Review VARIETY.COM Amazon Prime Video's new series stars Rosamund Pike in a cryptic role Wheel of Time TV Series Is Better, Worse, and Different Than the Books GIZMODO.COM Somehow, Amazon's adaptation of Robert Jordan's epic fantasy series still works. Rosamund Pike, Daniel Henney, and more star. It begins streaming November 19. The Wheel of Time Review: Strong Storytelling Builds on Generic Beginnings COMICBOOK.COM Amazon Prime's The Wheel of Time finds a balance between captivating storytelling and unveiling [...] The Wheel of Time TV Review WWW.JOBLO.COM We review Prime Video's epic fantasy series The Wheel of Time starring Rosamund Pike, based on the novels by Robert Jordan. "The Wheel of Time" Amazon Series Off to Strange Start [Review] NERDBOT.COM Trying to think of how to review something you've been a fan of, looking forward to, and are ultimately baffled by is difficult. That's not to say Amazon Review: 'The Wheel of Time' is The Epic Sprawling Fantasy We Have Been Waiting For YOURMONEYGEEK.COM November 16, 2021 The first three episodes of Prime Video’s ambitious adaptation of Robert Jordan’s The Wheel of Time have arrived on the streamer. For those Wheel of Time Review: Epic Amazon Adaptation Is Dense, Magical CONSEQUENCE.NET While perhaps more accessible to fans of the books, Robert Jordan's rich fantasy world comes alive in this series. The Wheel of Time review: Rosamund Pike fantasy delivers a spectacular journey METRO.CO.UK Robert Jordan's beloved book series is brought to life. 'The Wheel of Time' is better than 'Game of Thrones' for one important reason WWW.INVERSE.COM Amazon’s new fantasy series accomplishes something rare for its genre. Here's an important way 'The Wheel of Time' improves upon its source material. The Wheel of Time WWW.GAMEREACTOR.EU Amazon Studios' adaptation of Robert Jordan's fantasy epic has moments of greatness but struggles to balance the weight of the source material. Wheel of Time TV series review | Amazon adaptation is a real success WWW.RADIOTIMES.COM Fans might grumble over a few missing parts of the books, but this is an accomplished and gripping retelling of Robert Jordan’s original novels. The Wheel of Time, review: more Dungeons and Dragons cosplay than Game of Thrones WWW.TELEGRAPH.CO.UK Amazon's adaptation of Robert Jordan's 14-volume fantasy epic feels fresh and majestic – but it all looks a bit Comic Con Roush Review: Getting Stuck on the 'Wheel of Time' WWW.TVINSIDER.COM Robert Jordan's epic series of fantasy novels is adapted for streaming, starring Rosamund Pike as sorceress Moiraine, seeking to save the world from darkness. REVIEW: Amazon's Wheel of Time is a Well-Done Adaptation - Murphy's Multiverse WWW.MURPHYSMULTIVERSE.COM Amazon's Wheel of Time series falters at times, but when it regains its footing it manages to be a strong adaption of a beloved series. Jeff Bezos, The Wheel of Time and the futility of throwing cash at the telly WWW.INDEPENDENT.CO.UK Shows like ‘Game of Thrones’ and Amazon’s new fantasy epic are breaking the bank when it comes to TV budgets. But, asks Ed Cumming, can they really match the tin-pot charm of British shows made on the cheap? The Wheel of Time Review WWW.FILMLORE.NO The Wheel of Time is a new fantasy series coming to Amazing Prime Video, based on the works and world of Robert Jordan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 After skimming through some reviews, it seems like a common theme is pacing issues. It seems rushed in many respects. It may have needed 10 or even 12 episode seasons. I guess I'll see what I think later this week! Edit: Other common themes, mediocre to poor CGI but decent practical effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I still maintain that the first book specifically could be done in a tight 2 hour movie, if they stretch it to most of or MORE than a whole season, I don't know what they're thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I still maintain that the first book specifically could be done in a tight 2 hour movie, if they stretch it to most of or MORE than a whole season, I don't know what they're thinking. Well they’ve said they’re will be things included from as far as book 3. That they’re not just straight up adapting the story from the books as is, they’re pulling stuff in from different places if they think it works. As far as pacing stuff, it’s certainly possible. But some of those reviews say it goes too fast and some say too slow. So as with any weekly release show, I think pacing can’t really be judged until you see the season in its entirety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 Regarding all the reviews and write-ups I've gone through over the past month or so in anticipation of this show: You know what's going to make Wheel of Time (or any fantasy show) a true successor to Game of Thrones? When people stop saying 'the next/successor to Game of Thrones' about whatever show it is they're wanting to be that. I get the comparisons now before we've seen it. Surely when the show version of Game of Thrones was starting there were plenty of "Lord of the Rings" comparisons. But once the show came out and did its own thing virtually nobody compared it to that anymore in any meaningful way. But if we get two seasons into this and people are still comparing it to GoT then... this show ain't the next GoT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said: Regarding all the reviews and write-ups I've gone through over the past month or so in anticipation of this show: You know what's going to make Wheel of Time (or any fantasy show) a true successor to Game of Thrones? When people stop saying 'the next/successor to Game of Thrones' about whatever show it is they're wanting to be that. I get the comparisons now before we've seen it. Surely when the show version of Game of Thrones was starting there were plenty of "Lord of the Rings" comparisons. But once the show came out and did its own thing virtually nobody compared it to that anymore in any meaningful way. But if we get two seasons into this and people are still comparing it to GoT then... this show ain't the next GoT. Exactly. Although it will be super interesting to see how it plays out since the first book is very much like Fellowship on purpose. And then later you’ll get to the literal inspiration for Game of Thrones. So I’m curious how they handle those two parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Bloomberg - Are you a robot? WWW.BLOOMBERG.COM Bloomberg has a pretty positive review up. The reviews are high enough to not sink the show before it gets out the gate which gives it a fighting chance to get some viewership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 16 hours ago, Mercury33 said: Amazon just renewed it for Season 3 already so unless this enters all time mega Bomb territory I don’t think they care and we’re gonna get this story. 9 hours ago, Massdriver said: Bloomberg - Are you a robot? WWW.BLOOMBERG.COM Bloomberg has a pretty positive review up. The reviews are high enough to not sink the show before it gets out the gate which gives it a fighting chance to get some viewership. This might be a little counterintuitive, but I think Amazon coming out and saying they’re committing to at least three seasons might help get people on board. Especially with a story of this scale, people might be more forgiving of an uneven start if they know the show will have time to build and resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 First 3 episodes are LIVE!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 First episode was good. I didn’t feel that particular episode was rushed. There’s def a good number of changes and for the most part I think they make sense. Spoiler Aging them up makes sense. Rand and Egweyne already having relationship I think makes a lot more sense then the way it was danced around in the books. Gives them bigger stakes. Perin being married and killing his wife I think makes sense to give him hesitancy to use violence/the axe maybe even explain why he’s withdrawn but I don’t think it was executed well. Nynaeve being taken was interesting. Curious to see how that plays out as that’s a huge change. Lots of little motivations were left out so we’ll see how that all plays out. I was bummed they didn’t do much with Rands connection to his dad and the mystery of his birth but that gets dropped pretty quick in the books so it’s probably not necessary. Overall I enjoyed the first episode, excited to see the next two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 19 minutes in so far 28 minutes shortage of braid tugging is noted Finished first episode are the actually gonna make me not hate Matt for half the series 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I look forward to watching tomorrow and having a smile that doesn't quite reach my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I need a high quality image of that tapestry getting that shit tattoo'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, DPCyric said: I need a high quality image of that tapestry getting that shit tattoo'd From the opening? Yeah that whole thing was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Mercury33 said: From the opening? Yeah that whole thing was awesome. Yes been looking for a back piece! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberon Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Really liked the first 2 episodes, going to watch the 3rd tonight. Really liking mat, especially with what he did with he girls, but wished they showed him fighting a trolloc to save them or something (ad peering and rand both face the trollocs) Few nitpicks here and there as a fan of the books, but just seeing it on the screen brought a huge smile to my face. Very excited for episode 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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