Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Let's face it - the most despicable character in the entire series is Toranaga, and it's probably not even close! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 An excellent ending to a most excellent series. Shogun easily takes it's place among my favorite TV. Really a spectacular show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 My love for this show has only been exceeded by my relief that they did not butcher it! I watched the conclusion last night and was very satisfied. We live and we die. we make, we sink, and we raise boats again. Who can say how many times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Watched the first episode. Yep, this gonna be good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Watched 5 episodes yesterday and we both love it. It’s pretty close to the book but does soften some characters and the pacing is good. Sucks because I now start a long stretch so it’ll be a bit before we can get back to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted April 27 Share Posted April 27 Finished. Flawless. Has easily one of the best episodes of television of all time and it’s def a top 5 show of all time for me. Sticks the landing the way GoT should have if they didn’t buy into their own hype and jump the shark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Oh yeah, we did finish this the other night. 10/10, just about as perfect as you can get. It really did the book justice. Even better with how it portrayed Japanese culture. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 I finally got around to watching and finishing this. I wasn't hooked until the end of episode 2, with episode 3 fully grabbing me (and it took my wife the same time), but man did it take off. Phenomenal show. Every aspect of it is well crafted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 10 Author Share Posted May 10 Uhhhh...what? ‘Shōgun’ Star Hiroyuki Sanada Inks Deal To Return For Season 2 As FX Limited Series Mulls Emmy Switch To Drama Amid Renewal Buzz DEADLINE.COM Hiroyuki Sanada, star and producer of FX's limited series Shōgun, has closed a deal to return as Lord Yoshii Toranaga, sources tell Deadline. Quote EXCLUSIVE: Hiroyuki Sanada, star and producer of FX‘s limited series Shōgun, has closed a deal to return as Lord Yoshii Toranaga, sources tell Deadline. Securing Sanada, whose character’s journey to become shōgun and lead Japan to an era of peace was chronicled in the 10-episode adaptation of James Clavell’s novel, has been considered crucial to any plan to extend Shogun beyond its original installment. Other elements are still being worked out and deals are being finalized as part of an effort by FX to take Shogun to a second season in light of the big commercial and critical success of the limited series. The outcome of the effort would determine whether Shōgun would be considered a limited or drama series going forward, which could have major ramifications on the 2024 Emmy race, with the timing of the decision tied to the deadline for Emmy submissions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Huh. My brother-in-law was crushed when I told him it was a limited series. Maybe I’ll be able to give him good news this time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 s2 lol, lmao even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 It seems very odd to me that they're framing a potential second season in terms of Emmy eligibility. Certainly it's nice to win an Emmy, and Shogun deserves more than a few, but I really hope the determining factor for making more of the show is "do we have a worthwhile story to tell and the confidence to tell it with the same quality" and not simply "this worked out better than expected, lets make more of this thing even if we don't know what to do with it." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 This is the end, Part 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Without Clavell's excellent book to lean on for the show, I can't imagine how they'd replicate his writing for a season 2. The reason the show was so good is because it's based on an excellent book. Let's not forget what happened to Game of Thrones' writing once it went off book. I think this is a bad idea. I'd rather they do another book from Clavell's Asian Saga, Gaijin would be a great one since that takes place in Japan too, moves the time period to another interesting era (1862, around the same time as The Last Samurai takes place, which took a lot from Clavell's work) and also has a descendant of Toranaga as a main character. That character also has the same name as the one in Shogun, Yoshii Toranaga. Unless that's what they mean for a season 2? Sanada plays another Toranaga in 1862? That would be awesome if they did that, but I assume they mean a direct sequel to Shogun for a season 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: Without Clavell's excellent book to lean on for the show, I can't imagine how they'd replicate his writing for a season 2. The reason the show was so good is because it's based on an excellent book. Let's not forget what happened to Game of Thrones' writing once it went off book. I think this is a bad idea. I'd rather they do another book from Clavell's Asian Saga, Gaijin would be a great one since that takes place in Japan too, moves the time period to another interesting era (1862, around the same time as The Last Samurai takes place, which took a lot from Clavell's work) and also has a descendant of Toranaga as a main character. That character also has the same name as the one in Shogun, Yoshii Toranaga. Unless that's what they mean for a season 2? Sanada plays another Toranaga in 1862? That would be awesome if they did that, but I assume they mean a direct sequel to Shogun for a season 2. It's probably a bad idea but it could also be really good. The game of thrones guys arent writing it. The reason I'm totally fine with them doing a second season is because season 1 can stand alone. If it sucks, that doesn't take anything away from how awesome season 1 was. Game of Thrones was different with things building constantly so when they shit the bed it kinda fucked up my enjoyment of the earlier seasons knowing the last seasons were bad and rushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Plus, if you get some good writers, there's still the actual history to pull from. Just have somebody who can write some compelling fuckin dialogue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 2 hours ago, johnny said: It's probably a bad idea but it could also be really good. The game of thrones guys arent writing it. 1 hour ago, johnny said: Plus, if you get some good writers, there's still the actual history to pull from. Just have somebody who can write some compelling fuckin dialogue. I agree it could be good but Clavell's writing is in its own league, which is why Shogun was so good. Without his material and writing and descriptions, it will become very hard to match that quality. I just think you shouldn't bother trying, there's no need. Like, why? Sure, it doesn't need to besmirch the first season, but why taint perfection? It's just unneeded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 ‘Shogun’ Seasons 2 and 3 in the Works at FX, Hulu WWW.HOLLYWOODREPORTER.COM Creatives including Justin Marks, Rachel Kondo, Michaela Clavell and Hiroyuki Sanada are all returning as the former limited series will compete for Emmys in the drama categories. Quote It’s official: FX and Hulu are prepping not one but two more seasons of breakout drama Shōgun. The Disney-owned network said Thursday that it is teaming with the estate of author James Clavell to extend Shōgun for two additional seasons. The company noted that both seasons are in development, meaning that a two-season renewal depends on how the creative comes in. A writers room is being assembled and will open in the summer to explore a continuation of Shōgun beyond Clavell’s original novel. Shōgun’s creatives, including co-creators, exec producers and writers Justin Marks and Rachel Kondo, exec producer Michaela Clavell as well as star and producer Hiroyuki Sanada are all involved with the development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Well, I certainly wish the writers' room luck on matching that level of writing quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Would have been so much better if they just did other novels in other periods. But hey, I guess I won't mind if they somehow pull it off! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I just finished ep7, that end scene at the "tea shop" Yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 15 hours ago, legend said: Would have been so much better if they just did other novels in other periods. Which is exactly what the other six books in Clavell's "Asian Saga" are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 21 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Which is exactly what the other six books in Clavell's "Asian Saga" are! Sorry, that's what I meant -- as in, the show should have done one of Clavell's other novels set in a different period. I can see why my wording was confusing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 In regards to those other works of Clavell, being Devil's advocate here, but WHAT IF they adapted them in such a way to incorporate elements into the fallout of this first season? (I haven't read those works so I'm not entirely sure it would or could work, just putting it out there.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 17 Author Share Posted May 17 13 minutes ago, SoberChef said: In regards to those other works of Clavell, being Devil's advocate here, but WHAT IF they adapted them in such a way to incorporate elements into the fallout of this first season? (I haven't read those works so I'm not entirely sure it would or could work, just putting it out there.) That's kinda impossible as the rest of the novels take place 200 to 300 years later, mostly in China, with one taking place in Iran during the events of the Islamic Revolution in 1979. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 I would never do what Hiromatsu did for nobody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Damn. What I learned is I'll never get anywhere if I continue to care about people. Sad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Damn. Ishido was right about Toranaga. As much as everyone was amused by anjin's notions they all knew their lives were only to serve their lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I'm gonna do a Toranaga and not respond to these stupid ideas and see if they fail on their own/I benefit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 4 hours ago, SuperSpreader said: I'm gonna do a Toranaga and not respond to these stupid ideas and see if they fail on their own/I benefit That didn't last long. I already told them they're all fucking idiots. Sigh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted Monday at 03:29 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:29 AM Emmy Awards 2024 Winners List: ‘Shogun’ Dominates With 18 Wins, and ‘The Bear’ Cooks Up 11 VARIETY.COM See the winners from the 2024 Emmy Awards, including 'Shogun,' 'The Bear,' 'Hacks' and more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted Monday at 10:30 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:30 AM Interesting that Writing isn’t among their many wins. That went to Slow Horses, a series I love, but was a little surprised to see get a bunch of noms this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted Monday at 01:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:55 PM The Bear shouldn't be a comedy 🙎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted Tuesday at 06:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:51 PM On 5/3/2024 at 11:45 AM, legend said: I finally got around to watching and finishing this. I wasn't hooked until the end of episode 2, with episode 3 fully grabbing me (and it took my wife the same time), but man did it take off. Phenomenal show. Every aspect of it is well crafted. Same here, or maybe it was the end of episode 3 that I was fully hooked. Good show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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