Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 As part of Edge's 30th anniversary celebrations in this month's issue (#390) of Edge magazine, they invited ~100 people from the industry to pick the 100 greatest games of the past 30 years. Or, as they call it, The 100 Greatest Games of Edge's Lifetime. The List: Spoiler 100. Kentucky Route Zero 99. Warioware, Inc: Mega Microgames 98. Starcraft 97. God of War (2018) 96. Persona 5 95. Outrun 2006: Coast 2 Coast 94. The Sims 93. Yakuza 0 92. Fez 91. Team Fortress 2 90. Papers, Please 89. System Shock 88. Fallout 3 87. The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker 86. Half-Life: Alyx 85. Thief: The Dark Project 84. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind 83. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 82. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 81. Super Mario Galaxy 2 80. Street Fighter IV 79. Tomb Raider 78. Fortnite 77. Bayonetta 76. Immortality 75. Katamari Damacy 74. Demon's Souls 73. The Last Guardian 72. Mario Kart 64 71. Resident Evil 70. The Last of Us Part II 69. Silent Hill 2 68. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn 67. Chrono Trigger 66. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 65. Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice 64. Halo 3 63. Shenmue 62. X-Com: UFO Defense 61. Red Dead Redemption 60. Xcom: Enemy Unknown 59. Advance Wars 58. The Witness 57. Hitman (2016) 56. Rez 55. Castlevania: Symphony of The Night 54. Mario Kart 8 53. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 52. Inside 51. Ico 50. Grand Theft Auto V 49. Quake 48. Mass Effect 2 47. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain 46. Pokémon Red/Blue 45. Into the Breach 44. Civilization II 43. What Remains of Edith Finch 42. Hollow Knight 41. Super Mario Odyssey 40. Dishonored 2 39. Street Fighter II Turbo 38. Return of The Obra Dinn 37. Hades 36. Slay the Spire 35. Metroid Prime 34. Spelunky 33. Journey 32. Disco Elyisium 31. World of Warcraft 30. Half-Life 29. Tetris Effect 28. Red Dead Redemption 2 27. Super Metroid 26. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim 25. Metal Gear Solid 24. Goldeneye 007 23. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 22. Portal 2 21. Bioshock 20. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom 19. Outer Wilds 18. Grand Theft Auto III 17. Shadow of the Colossus 16. Deus Ex 15. The Last of Us 14. Final Fantasy VII 13. Minecraft 12. Bloodborne 11. Super Mario Galaxy 10. Doom 9. Elden Ring 8. Portal 7. Half-Life 2 6. Halo: Combat Evolved 5. Resident Evil 4 4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3. Super Mario 64 2. Dark Souls 1. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild The Voters: Spoiler Together with votes from readers and the in-house Edge editorial team, we polled a variety of videogame industry representatives, alongside regular contributors to the magazine and former Edge staff. Thank you to the following for taking part: Nate Austin, Jon Bailes, Callum Bains, Dinga Bakaba, Sam Barlow, Alex Beachum, Joel Beardshaw, Sébastien Bénard, Mike Bithell, Lucy Blundell, Wren Brier, Ben Brode, Mike Brown, Nathan Brown, Jeppe Carlsen, Matthew Castle, Roger Clark, Oli Clarke Smith, Simon Cox, Phil Crabtree, Ste Curran, Dylan Cuthbert, Martin Davies, Tim Dawson, Teddy Dief, Joao Diniz Sanches, Christian Donlan, Nicolas Doucet, Caelyn Ellis, Joel Eschler, Caspar Field, Simon Flesser, Aaryn Flynn, Ojiro Fumoto, Michael Gapper, Ian Hardingham, Duncan Harris, Alan Hazelden, Chris Hecker, Adrian Hon, Sam Horti, Casey Hudson, Joseph Humfrey, Alex Hutchinson, Jon Ingold, Bryan Intihar, Phil Iwaniuk, Steve Jarratt, Meghna Jayanth, John Johanas, Madison Karrh, Greg Kasavin, Mikael Kasurinen, Jake Kazdal, Emma Kent, Paul Kilduff-Taylor, Jason Killingsworth, Andrejs Klavinš, Ilari Kuittinen, Trent Kusters, Rick Lane, Greg Lobanov, Mark MacDonald, Dan Marshall, Corey Martin, Gareth Damian Martin, Ben Maxwell, David McCarthy, Edmund McMillen, Anna Megill, Daniel Mullins, Xalavier Nelson Jr, Dana Nightingale, Niall O'Donoghue, Henrique Olifiers, Dave Oshry, Trent Oster, Craig Owens, Lewis Packwood, Simon Parkin, Jeremy Peel, Gary Penn, Dan Pinchbeck, Lucas Pope, Lena Raine, Jade Raymond, Siobhan Reddy, Paweł Sasko, Andrew Shouldice, Jen Simpkins, Harvey Smith, Randy Smith, Davide Soliani, Jake Solomon, Richard Stanton, Matt Stark, Abbie Stone, Keith Stuart, Goichi Suda, Jörg Tittel, Ragnar Tørnquist, Feargus Urquhart, David Valjalo, Jan-Bart Van Beek, Sean Vanaman, Swen Vincke, Robin Walker, Alex Ward, Alan Wen, Tim Willits, Alex Wiltshire, Erik Wolpaw, Shuhei Yoshida and Derek Yu. Some additional game development and publishing staff who preferred to remain anonymous also contributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Its always interesting seeing these lists.. you can always feel the turmoil of rating a game for its significance and historical importance vs is it still a great game that is still above others of its kind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I'll never agree with #1. Shit is mid. And lol, ME2 over 1? No way. DOOM Eternal is better in every way. Boomershooters are actually dogshit. I don't get it. I tried playing the old DOOM and it was so trash. Like, it's actual nostalgia goggles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The only redeeming thing about this list is that Dark Souls 2 isn't on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 While I adore the game and it's not like anything is perfect, BOTW is pound for pound perhaps the most overrated game of all time to me. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Seems like a safe list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I have beatean 38 of the games on that list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Quote 35. Metroid Prime 21. Bioshock Umm no. I was one of those who preferred Metroid Prime 3 to Bioshock that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Out of the three Metal Gears posted, I TOTALLY disagree with Snake Eater being the lowest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Mostly reasonable. Skyrim too high, Chrono Trigger too low are what I'd quibble with at a glance. And I'm not as much of a From Software guy to put 3 in the top 12 but I'm not gonna get that worked up over that. 8 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Out of the three Metal Gears posted, I TOTALLY disagree with Snake Eater being the lowest. Also true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: While I adore the game and it's not like anything is perfect, BOTW is pound for pound perhaps the most overrated game of all time to me. ToTK makes that even more apparent. Not that it’s a perfect game either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Resident Evil 2 and GTA: San Andreas should both be on this list SOMEWHERE. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 The Witness is a very Edge pick IMO. It’s a clever thing, but maybe not a very good game. Plus I found the movement is motion sickness inducing. Portal is a better pick, but definitely not top 10 to me. That said there are some cool picks on there. I could get behind Civ 2 and Slay the Spire belonging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Finally a list that excludes the actual best game ever Super Mario World (92 in EU) by default Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I think these broad lists should favor more timeless games like Tetris, Minecraft, Street Fighter 2, pick your 2D Mario, Super Metroid, stuff like that in the top 10. It's an impossible task in general, but then I see stuff up there like Edith Finch in like the top 50 and I just can't imagine that is correct lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: but then I see stuff up there like Edith Finch in like the top 50 and I just can't imagine that is correct lol. Heartless bastard confirmed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I’ll also say Portal over Portal 2 makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, stepee said: I’ll also say Portal over Portal 2 makes no sense. Some people just prefer the pure puzzle element of the first game. The second game is cool but has a lot more narrative stuff going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Some people just prefer the pure puzzle element of the first game. The second game is cool but has a lot more narrative stuff going on. Those people ARE LITERALLY MAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Anything From related coming before Minecraft is absolute fucking lunacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Minecraft is shit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, stepee said: Those people ARE LITERALLY MAD Well I know Jeff Gerstmann is one of those people and he mentioned it somewhat recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Not a single Sonic game on the list… timeless quality of some old games will continue to fall by the wayside… Thank goodness for personal preferences cause I will be damned if I ever forget how much I love F-zero X, Starfox 64 and even older forgotten series/games like Road Rash, Desert Strike, Age of Empires and Tecmo Super Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 No GOW for Ragnarok? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 I have played 65 of those. There’s lots to argue over. which is fun, but Slay the Spire being a spot ahead of Hades? Fuck right off on that one. And Mario 3 or Super Mario World not on the list? Fuck Edge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 My read of this list is that the Edge has elected to do what so many have, which is to combine excellent games with impactful games and call them all "Top" games. Its not criminal, but its also not particularly accurate. Look, Shenmue was certainly an influential game, but it not a "top" game and I happen to love it. The original Doom is no longer an eternal classic, even if it showed many the way to making the games that would surpass it. I could go on, but instead I'm off to host a meeting full of angry construction people, good day to you all! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 @Biggie I only now saw they barely gave GOW 2018 a top 100 nod. Ragnarok is easily top 15. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, best3444 said: @Biggie I only now saw they barely gave GOW 2018 a top 100 nod. Ragnarok is easily top 15. Honestly I liked GoW 2018 better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Biggie said: Honestly I liked GoW 2018 better. I can see that because it was more cohesive and not as bloated as Ragnarok. I still prefer Ragnarok but both are simply incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastletonSnob Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Arkham Asylum and Arkham City aren't even on the list? No Final Fantasy VI? No System Shock 2? No The Walking Dead? No Undertale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Mercury33 said: There’s lots to argue over which is fun but Slay the Spire being a spot ahead of Hades? Fuck right off on that one. As someone who adores both games, I’d be happier with the order swapped, but I’m not complaining. It’s just one spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 9 hours ago, Paperclyp said: I think these broad lists should favor more timeless games like Tetris, Minecraft, Street Fighter 2, pick your 2D Mario, Super Metroid, stuff like that in the top 10. It's an impossible task in general, but then I see stuff up there like Edith Finch in like the top 50 and I just can't imagine that is correct lol. Sure, but only when they still deserve to hang. Can we still say SF2 is the best fighting game ever? Or just the one with the most history attached? I’m kind of two minds there. Another example: I feel that the ‘timeless’ quality of Wind Waker is a bit of a cover. It’s stuck in a no man’s land between traditional 3D Zelda and BotW/ToTK, and doesn’t excel at either approach. But people get nostalgic for the visual style and story. You know which Zelda should be in its place? A Link Between Worids. I noticed LTTP was missing, but sacred cows be slaughtered, the 3DS game is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: Sure, but only when they still deserve to hang. Can we still say SF2 is the best fighting game ever? Or just the one with the most history attached? I’m kind of two minds there. Another example: I feel that the ‘timeless’ quality of Wind Waker is a bit of a cover. It’s stuck in a no man’s land between traditional 3D Zelda and BotW/ToTK, and doesn’t excel at either approach. But people get nostalgic for the visual style and story. No it’s a valid question and any time I have discussions like this with my friends with games or sports I’m the asshole who really wants to tamp down on what are you actually saying here… Is Street Fighter 2 the actual “best” fighting game of all time - I would say of course not. But given the quality of it plus its context in history, were I making this list, it would have strong consideration for top 10. I would like publications to get some balls and list what they think are the actual best games ever and ignore as much as you can (cuz I think some of it is just subconscious at this point) historical context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: Is Street Fighter 2 the actual “best” fighting game of all time - I would say of course not. But given the quality of it plus its context in history, were I making this list, it would have strong consideration for top 10. Maybe there would have been a time I’d agree. But with where gaming is now, something that isn’t best ever in its class probably doesn’t deserve to be in a top 50. Unless being second or third best in a particular genre or franchise still gives it a ton of sway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 It’s so easy to roll your eyes at these lists, but could we as a group do any better? I would love to see what a D1P list looks like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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