Jason Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Report: Nintendo’s next console ships late 2024, still supports cartridges ARSTECHNICA.COM Sources shared some basic details about the new device, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I wanted the next Nintendo console to try and close in on the technology of the other consoles. Oh well, Nintendo makes magical games regardless of the visual quality. I'm buying it day one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Best technology 2015 had to offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ominous said: Best technology 2015 had to offer. An optimist I see 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I bet it’s has a 240hz 4k OLED screen with HDR1400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 You would really hope that this is true as games take a little while to make even though they are all "coming soon". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShreddieMercury Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 It could be weaker than the Switch and Nintendo's games will still be miles better than anything from the competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 minute ago, ShreddieMercury said: It could be weaker than the Switch and Nintendo's games will still be miles better than anything from the competition. What are you on and where did you get it? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I wish TotK was on more powerful hardware, but it's still more fun than the typical AAA content released on other systems, so I'll always buy Nintendo systems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 At this point Metroid Prime 4 will probably be a launch title, and that's why we've seen nothing about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I wish TotK was on more powerful hardware, but it's still more fun than the typical AAA content released on other systems, so I'll always buy Nintendo systems. @stepee weren't you running this in an emulator on your PC in 4K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 ToTK is so good as is that l wouldn’t have been willing to wait for more powerful hardware for it. It runs fine for the hardware, no playability issues and the slowdown feels mostly reasonable when it happens. (Probably because of double buffered vsync regulating things a bit) I’m glad they made it as is, and will happily wait for a new, ground up next-Switch Zelda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nokra said: @stepee weren't you running this in an emulator on your PC in 4K? He was. I just didn't want to fool with it. Overall, I'm okay with it and after 95 hours, I don't notice the flaws as much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Well crap. I have TotK but I’ve barely played it yet. Now I feel like I should just wait for the inevitable remaster on the next system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 56 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: He was. I just didn't want to fool with it. Overall, I'm okay with it and after 95 hours, I don't notice the flaws as much. The complaints I've seen seem to center on framerate drops but what I find much more noticeable is the pop-in on the surroundings. Framerate sluggishness is annoying but the sometimes major pop-in delay is much more directly impactful on the experience IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 43 minutes ago, Jason said: The complaints I've seen seem to center on framerate drops but what I find much more noticeable is the pop-in on the surroundings. Framerate sluggishness is annoying but the sometimes major pop-in delay is much more directly impactful on the experience IMO. I’ve noticed it some, but I don’t think it’s drastically had any impact on anything for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Worst LoD pop in is transitioning from sky to ground. There’s some atmospheric haze they use to try and hide it, but what you’re doing in those moments is far more immersive itself than any visual distractions to it, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 6 hours ago, ShreddieMercury said: It could be weaker than the Switch and Nintendo's games will still be miles better than anything from the competition. Pokemon is the best thing to base this on. Graphics could look worse than a N64 game and it would still be one of the best selling games ever. The issue is less about power and about what the next console is. Kind of like Wii was hot and Wii-U was not. Could they fumble the next one somehow and make people not interested in it? It is possible. That being said the weaker it is, the less 3rd party support they get. The Switch really got a bump from all the indie titles that were available on it. Imagine if they had to spec down for a weaker switch. That would be rough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 6 hours ago, ShreddieMercury said: It could be weaker than the Switch and Nintendo's games will still be miles better than anything from the competition. Well, like 3 of them will be. The rest will be weird awkward cash grabs. The real issue is third-party stuff. Yeah it's great that the 2-5 amazing Nintendo games we get each generation are fantastic and utilize the hardware perfectly, but uh... I want some shit to play inbetween that that doesn't look and run like ass without the devs having to perform miracles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 It's still running cartridges... will it at least be backwards compatib... who am i kidding? It's fucking Nintendo! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 50 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: That being said the weaker it is, the less 3rd party support they get. The Switch really got a bump from all the indie titles that were available on it. Imagine if they had to spec down for a weaker switch. That would be rough. The Switch already led to many indies doing just that, adapting their ambition to what's easily feasible for Switch hardware. I don't even think that's a bad thing. The industry is in a better place having more spaces for low spec/limited budget games to thrive. 40 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: Well, like 3 of them will be. The rest will be weird awkward cash grabs. The real issue is third-party stuff. Yeah it's great that the 2-5 amazing Nintendo games we get each generation are fantastic and utilize the hardware perfectly, but uh... I want some shit to play inbetween that that doesn't look and run like ass without the devs having to perform miracles. With where the industry is today, Nintendo would need to be the ones contracting most all those projects. No major publisher will make an exclusive for them otherwise. And few indies have the desire or talent to genuinely push Nintendo hardware with something still tailor made for its spec. (like say, Shin'en, or Playtonic with 2d Yooka) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: The Switch already led to many indies doing just that, adapting their ambition to what's easily feasible for Switch hardware. I don't even think that's a bad thing. The industry is in a better place having more spaces for low spec/limited budget games to thrive. With where the industry is today, Nintendo would need to be the ones contracting most all those projects. No major publisher will make an exclusive for them otherwise. And few indies have the desire or talent to genuinely push Nintendo hardware with something still tailor made for its spec. (like say, Shin'en, or Playtonic with 2d Yooka) I was more referring to just ports of third-party games that weren't laughingstocks of the industry. Exclusive stuff would be best and would be nice, but clearly wouldn't happen very often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Xbob42 said: I was more referring to just ports of third-party games that weren't laughingstocks of the industry. Exclusive stuff would be best and would be nice, but clearly wouldn't happen very often. I wouldn't expect it for Nintendo consoles any more than for Series S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: I wouldn't expect it for Nintendo consoles any more than for Series S. Series S is just a lower spec version of the same games, very playable, not a laughingstock. I mean shit like this. They managed to clean it up, but good lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 6 hours ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I’ve noticed it some, but I don’t think it’s drastically had any impact on anything for me. 4 hours ago, crispy4000 said: Worst LoD pop in is transitioning from sky to ground. There’s some atmospheric haze they use to try and hide it, but what you’re doing in those moments is far more immersive itself than any visual distractions to it, IMO. It's a problem for trying to find things from the sky. Like the dragon tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 12 hours ago, Xbob42 said: Series S is just a lower spec version of the same games, very playable, not a laughingstock. I mean shit like this. They managed to clean it up, but good lord ARK was already a laughingstock for poor UE4 optimization. There's going to outliers like it on every console, ie: I won't be surprised if we see something like this again with some mid-tier dev leaning in too hard into UE5 features. The general issue with Series S is that as the generation goes on, the more the X is pushed, the more work will be needed to get games to look acceptable for it. It's never the target spec, its going to see its fair share of games where the IQ and/or framerate are far from ideal for even a 1080p TV. (it already has in some cases) FSR2 is being used more and more as a crutch on the PS5/X, reconstructing from base resolutions it really shouldn't be. That's a bad omen for the S. It hasn't quite had an Avengers Xbox One S moment yet, and may never get that bad. Though at this point in the gen, its hard to say how bad it could truly get. A new Switch would have the advantage of being portable and leveraging DLSS, which reconstructs at lower resolutions better. I still expect we'll see many more ports where the target is handheld play, and a middling TV mode is hand waved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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