mclumber1 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 House Oversight Committee set to hold UFO hearing WWW.CBSNEWS.COM Several witnesses, including a former Navy commanding officer, will testify about the so-called "unidentified aerial phenomena" they've seen in the skies. Aliens exist, and some (not all) UFO sightings are of legitimate otherworldly craft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Let’s fucking gooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 My dad and his brother saw a glowing orb about the size of a pickup truck 100 ft above the street when they were kids (this would have been around 1969). He said it moved parallel with the road, made a perfect 90 degree turn and then continued down the street. He said it made an extremely loud noise like a vacuum cleaner and had multiple colors like a soap bubble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 While I do believe aliens exist, I find it hard to square that they’ve mastered the art of intergalactic space travel but need to be within our atmosphere to monitor us or take various readings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, osxmatt said: While I do believe aliens exist, I find it hard to square that they’ve mastered the art of intergalactic space travel but need to be within our atmosphere to monitor us or take various readings. While I do believe Europeans exist, I find it hard to square that they’ve mastered the art of oceanic travel but need to land on our beaches to monitor us or take our spices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: (this would have been around 1969) That's your explanation right there. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Anyone who believes there are real honest to god UFOs and the government has them should have seriously reconsidered that opinion after Trump took office and left with the least impressive shitty documents known to man. If there was alien shit in government hands, it would be next to a toilet in Florida. Don’t get your hopes up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Truly the important things. When’s the conference about skinwalkers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Funny how UFO sightings have gone way down ever since everyone starting carrying a camera in their pockets. Huh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, TUFKAK said: Truly the important things. When’s the conference about skinwalkers? Ted Cruz keeps blocking it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, thewhyteboar said: Ted Cruz keeps blocking it. Tell him we will figure out if Boebert is still taking clients then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Everyone on the planet has a quality camera in their pocket nowadays and we seem to have less footage of UFOs then when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Pickle Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 9 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: Funny how UFO sightings have gone way down ever since everyone starting carrying a camera in their pockets. Huh. That’s WHY the aliens stopped coming!!! they had an intergalactic summit about it. Some sort of prime directive was born that day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamusha Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, elbobo said: Everyone on the planet has a quality camera in their pocket nowadays and we seem to have less footage of UFOs then when I was a kid in the 80s and 90s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 Live stream of the hearing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Have sightings actually gone down? Or are they just easier to dismiss now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Personally, I'm a fairly big proponent of the "dark forest hypothesis" as an explanation of the Fermi paradox: Dark forest hypothesis - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Former Navy Pilot Testifies to Congress About Chilling UFO Encounter Off Virginia Coast WWW.THEDAILYBEAST.COM Several witnesses testified in Congress’ highly anticipated UFO hearing Wednesday, including a former Navy commander who said UFOs are a threat to national security. Quote A former Navy pilot has recounted a chilling encounter he had with an UFO in 2014 as he flew an F/A-18 Hornet off the coast of Virginia Beach, saying the unknown object was so jarring his flight commander called off the mission “immediately” and they “returned to base.” Ryan Graves, the first witness to testify in Congress’ highly anticipated UFO hearings on Wednesday, recalled seeing “a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere” that got within 50 feet of his squadron’s lead aircraft. Graves said the UAP—unidentified aerial phenomena, another term for UFOs—was between five to 15 feet in diameter. He said his commander filed a report but no official mention of the encounter ever surfaced. “Our squadron submitted a safety report but there was no official acknowledgement of the incident and no further mechanism to report the sightings,” he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 So they just brought some dudes up who said they saw shit, but with no documents or anything to back up what they said? "Ohh yeah he def filed that report no doubts, they just hid the truth man!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I can’t believe Congress is wasting time on this shit. Three ring circus up there on the hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 So do most of you think there isn't any another intelligent life out in the GINORMOUS universe? I do think that the government knows something but it's just too difficult to really know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The probability that other intelligent species exist in the universe more than likely outweighs the probability that other intelligent species do not exist in the universe simply as a function of the scale on the known universe. That's about as far as I'm willing to go though. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Universe sure coming here to stick dildos up rednecks butts, no. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, best3444 said: So do most of you think there isn't any another intelligent life out in the GINORMOUS universe? I do think that the government knows something but it's just too difficult to really know for sure. 8 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The probability that other intelligent species exist in the universe more than likely outweighs the probability that other intelligent species do not exist in the universe. That's about as far as I'm willing to go though. The chances of things (in my opinion, backed by science): single-celled life in many places all over the universe: 100% multi-cellular life in many places all over the universe: near-100% advanced life (think even insects) all over the universe: near-100% sapient life (similar to humans) all over the universe: >50% (but near-100% that it exists sporadically over time and space) sapient life being able to defeat the inverse-square law and communicate meaningfully (at least one two-way communication) with other stars: <10% sapient life being able to defeat time and travel sub-light to other stars: <5% (maybe some near the galactic cores, where stars are easier to get to...though conditions are less hospitable for life) sapient life being able to defeat physics and travel fast-than-light to other stars: near-0% (I would say 0%, but I grant the incredibly infinitesimal chance that our understanding of physics is completely wrong, and FTL is possible) So while I do believe that there are likely thousands of "advanced" civilizations (similar to us) even in our own galaxy, I think the chance of any of them ever actually even communicating are close to 0. I'm sure it's happened somewhere at some time. And I'm sure that signals are heard more often, but never again. I think it's entirely possible that no life from different star systems have ever visited each other, simply due to how strong the laws of physics are in preventing it. Most people simply can't grasp how impossible it is to even approach 1% the speed of light. To move an existing space capsule to 99%+ the speed of light, you'd need to burn something like Jupiter to get the energy (and also to slow back down). I think it's pretty likely that probes have been sent all over the place at sub-FTL to send back data. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 And that "dark forest hypothesis" is definitely a compelling reason as to why we may never detect/encounter another intelligent species from a game theory perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I would rather have congress had another Hillary Clinton hearing. This is the dumbest waste of public money I have ever seen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, Commissar SFLUFAN said: And that "dark forest hypothesis" is definitely a compelling reason as to why we may never detect/encounter another intelligent species from a game theory perspective. For sure. The cards are stacked against life ever meeting or even talking to each other, and then on top of that you have strong incentive to never even try. However, dark forest is only really a compelling reason to not communicate if you believe that travel is possible and economical (because then you are competing for resources). If you believe it's not really possible (or worth it), then I think dark forest loses credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, CitizenVectron said: For sure. The cards are stacked against life ever meeting or even talking to each other, and then on top of that you have strong incentive to never even try. However, dark forest is only really a compelling reason to not communicate if you believe that travel is possible and economical (because then you are competing for resources). If you believe it's not really possible (or worth it), then I think dark forest loses credibility. Right - the dark forest hypothesis only really applies to species who possess sufficiently advanced capabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: The chances of things (in my opinion, backed by science): single-celled life in many places all over the universe: 100% multi-cellular life in many places all over the universe: near-100% advanced life (think even insects) all over the universe: near-100% sapient life (similar to humans) all over the universe: >50% sapient life being able to defeat the inverse square law and communicate easily with other stars: <10% sapient life being able to defeat time and travel sub-light to other stars: <5% (maybe some near the galactic cores, where stars are easier to get to...though conditions are less hospitable for life) sapient life being able to defeat physics and travel fast-than-light to other stars: near-0% (I would say 0%, but I grant the incredibly infinitesimal chance that our understanding of physics is completely wrong, and FTL is possible) So while I do believe that there are likely thousands of "advanced" civilizations (similar to us) even in our own galaxy, I think the chance of any of them ever actually even communicating are close to 0. I'm sure it's happened somewhere at some time. And I'm sure that signals are heard more often, but never again. I think it's entirely possible that no life from different star systems have ever visited each other, simply due to how strong the laws of physics are in preventing it. Most people simply can't grasp how impossible it is to even approach 1% the speed of light. To move an existing space capsule to 99%+ the speed of light, you'd need to burn something like Jupiter to get the energy (and also to slow back down). I'd lower the probability of the last 3 even more. And then the chances these life forms meet each other (us) is even lower than that because the universe is so huge and old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I think it's entirely possible that no life from different star systems have ever visited each other, simply due to how strong the laws of physics are in preventing it. Most people simply can't grasp how impossible it is to even approach 1% the speed of light. To move an existing space capsule to 99%+ the speed of light, you'd need to burn something like Jupiter to get the energy (and also to slow back down). I think it's pretty likely that probes have been sent all over the place at sub-FTL to send back data. I'm thinking that a civilization would have to be at least a Type II on the Kardashev Scale to even begin having a realistic shot at merely contemplating near-FTL travel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The chances of life meeting other life are only near zero if warp drive technology is actually impossible (requires large amounts of negative mass, which does not appear to exist anywhere in the universe). Who knows, maybe it can be created in the lab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 If advanced civilizations really are flying around in our atmosphere, it’s most assuredly unmanned drones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The amount of testimony from pilots describing craft behaving in ways that are beyond our current level of technology is the most eyebrow raising element of this whole affair. Man-made drones can’t move at supersonic speed and then stop and turn on a dime, no matter how advanced. Then you have the reports of supersonic craft moving without any kind of thermal exhaust trail. Fascinating stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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