Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Man, I bet the DGA feels pretty stupid now for not joining SAG/WGA in a strike as those directors ain't gonna have any actual work! Hollywood Actors’ Strike Looms as SAG-AFTRA Says Contract Talks Collapse - The New York Times WWW.NYTIMES.COM SAG-AFTRA, representing 160,000 television and movie actors, could strike as soon as Thursday, joining screenwriters who have been picketing for over 70 days. Quote Hollywood’s first industrywide shutdown in 63 years neared certainty, with the union representing 160,000 television and movie actors poised to call a strike as soon as Thursday and join screenwriters who walked off the job in May. SAG-AFTRA, as the union is known, said at nearly 1 a.m. Pacific time on Thursday that negotiations with Hollywood studios over a new contract had collapsed and that its negotiating board had voted unanimously to recommend a strike. The previous three-year contract expired at 11:59 p.m., after an extension from June 30 to allow for continued talks. The union’s national board was scheduled to meet at 9 a.m. Pacific for a final strike vote. Pickets could start later on Thursday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 As a friend of mine told me, if you're wondering why and how the DGA was able to reach a deal pretty much getting most of what they wanted, just look at the make up of its membership for the most part. As he said "The DGA is made up mostly of old white guys, like ME!" (He's an old white guy) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Good. Right now in streaming the economics of the entire industry are changing, and these unions need to make sure that the workforce doesn't get completely squeezed out in the process. I enjoyed that NPR noted that the last time both writers and actors were on strike at the same time Ronald Regan was president of the Actors guild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 such a reasonable offer 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 These people want to make content they can sell indefinitely while paying its creators once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Good. Basically right now all of the studios are purposefully obfuscating how much money they make from streaming. Box office numbers and nielsen ratings are public, which make it easy for writers and actors to judge their worth. Ever since the move to streaming, no one knows shit about anything and the studios are all saying they don't make any money, at least partially in an effort to low ball everyone. It was why that Scarlett Johansson lawsuit was potentially going to be such a big deal and why Disney settled out of court with her. If that case went to trial, Disney would have been forced to make public exactly how much money they make from streaming and where it goes (i.e. how they hide it) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Powerful speech. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Tech layoffs: Dukaan lays off 90% of support staff after introducing AI chatbot for customer support WWW.GOOGLE.COM Suumit Shah, Dukaan’s founder and CEO, shared the update through a Twitter post where he explained that the query resolution time went down to 3 minutes and 12 seconds from the previous time duration of 2 hours and 13 minutes after the introduction of Dukaan’s own AI assistant This is just one example of what she's talking about. I was thinking about Walmart as another example where they would have to have 20–30 cashiers cut down to 2–6 for now. Fast food restaurants can't wait to drastically cut staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 AI can be beneficial if it helps lower the amount of work for graphics departments, for example. That way, they wouldn't have to work crazy hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Powerful speech. Good speech but it seems like people had to twist her arm into making it. She was living it up in Italy a few days ago and like a month ago I saw a lot of people being supremely unimpressed with comments she made at the time about the negotiations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, Remarkableriots said: That way, they wouldn't have to work crazy hours. Or, ya know, get paid for those hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 53 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Or, ya know, get paid for those hours. Hopefully they unionize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Quote “President Drescher is working as a brand ambassador for Dolce and Gabbana on location in Italy. This was a commitment fully known to the negotiating committee. She has been in negotiations every day either in person or via videoconference. President Drescher is managing a physically demanding schedule across three time zones, overseeing negotiations and working on location daily as well as managing her parents’ needs in [Florida]. She is returning to the States and will be on the ground in L.A. tomorrow [July 11], and will continue to chair our negotiations,” SAG-AFTRA said in a statement. Sounds like she's doing her job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Peak TV Has Peaked: From Exhausted Talent to Massive Losses, the Writers Strike Magnifies an Industry in Freefall VARIETY.COM As the writers strike rages on, industry insiders predict what the longterm effects will be for this work stoppage -- and a potential SAG strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Can't help but think this is the beginning of the end. Strange how all of those sci-fi flicks about AI never spoke about how the first domino toppled. Jokes aside, while I do feel slightly bad for IATSE, they did negotiate their deals last year, just sucks that there isn't any real work to be had by those members. As for the entire theater industry ... this does NOT bode well whatsoever. That's what truly hurts me the most, aside from the fact we'll have a dry well past the end of this year. Then again, all those films yet to release this year will not be having any of the stars promoting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 19 hours ago, TwinIon said: Good. Right now in streaming the economics of the entire industry are changing, and these unions need to make sure that the workforce doesn't get completely squeezed out in the process. I enjoyed that NPR noted that the last time both writers and actors were on strike at the same time Ronald Regan was president of the Actors guild. So if the pattern holds The Nanny will be our next president. I’m down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, thewhyteboar said: So if the pattern holds The Nanny will be our next president. I’m down. She was working in a bridal shop in Flushing, Queens, Til her boyfriend kicked her out in one of those crushing scenes. What was she to do, where was she to go? She was out on her fanny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Seriously, though, I wonder how long before one side caves. Since it's more than just the writers now, I expect studios to start actually compromising some... but, who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 9 hours ago, Jason said: Good speech but it seems like people had to twist her arm into making it. She was living it up in Italy a few days ago and like a month ago I saw a lot of people being supremely unimpressed with comments she made at the time about the negotiations. That Italy thing was pre-planned and she had the approval of the board from SAG to go. The studio has been on a smear campaign to discredit her. SAG membership is very happy with her and she knows the issues. Nobody had to "twist her arm" to speak up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 8 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: Sounds like she's doing her job. That's exactly what she was doing and it got twisted around to make her look bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: Seriously, though, I wonder how long before one side caves. Since it's more than just the writers now, I expect studios to start actually compromising some... but, who knows Apparently their strategy is and I quote "to starve them out". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: Apparently their strategy is and I quote "to starve them out". That worked in the prior IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: That worked in the prior IIRC. We'll see. With the actors striking, everything is shut down. Awards shows, productions, promotions... everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: We'll see. With the actors striking, everything is shut down. Awards shows, productions, promotions... everything. I believe that SAG striking as well may change things. I think it also means that networks won’t be able to force some (talk) shows to come back without their writers like last time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: That Italy thing was pre-planned and she had the approval of the board from SAG to go. The studio has been on a smear campaign to discredit her. SAG membership is very happy with her and she knows the issues. Nobody had to "twist her arm" to speak up. Well I guess it worked because I'm repeating what I saw writers saying in reaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 18 hours ago, Remarkableriots said: AI can be beneficial if it helps lower the amount of work for graphics departments, for example. That way, they wouldn't have to work crazy hours. Except in reality instead of working half as much for the same pay, they will lay off half the workers and the remainder will continue to work just as long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Except in reality instead of working half as much for the same pay, they will lay off half the workers and the remainder will continue to work just as long. Any ideas that advanced technology helps anyone but the rich should have been dispelled long ago. If you still think the market will find a way for people to get ahead, I have a bridge to sell you (or whatever that saying is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Fizzzzle said: Any ideas that advanced technology helps anyone but the rich should have been dispelled long ago. If you still think the market will find a way for people to get ahead, I have a bridge to sell you (or whatever that saying is) One positive application I could see is in medical research, if AI could be used to speed up research and help find cures to diseases quicker, that is one profession where the most important thing is finding solutions asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Why did I just look at the FB comments on the article posted by local news? 😩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Jason said: Well I guess it worked because I'm repeating what I saw writers saying in reaction. Probably a few uninformed writers on Twitter or wherever you saw it. Folks are behind her from what I've heard. Was actually on the picket line today with WGA and SAG members... not one mentioned her or Italy. THIS was the prevailing sentiment 1 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: Probably a few uninformed writers on Twitter or wherever you saw it. Folks are behind her from what I've heard. Was actually on the picket line today with WGA and SAG members... not one mentioned her or Italy. THIS was the prevailing sentiment And also, like, no matter, of all the things to concentrate on with this, Jason chooses this weird ass hill to die on lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 Disney CEO Bob Iger Says Writers and Actors Are Not Being ‘Realistic’ With Strikes: ‘It’s Very Disturbing to Me’ VARIETY.COM Disney CEO Bob Iger said on CNBC Thursday morning that writers and actors going on strike are not being "realistic" with their expectations. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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