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If tjis pops up in my area im going to go watch it..

 

I love how the Japanese Godzilla productions always adapt some of the visual ideas used by the American Godzilla productions (some of the latest ones being godzilla swimming under a ship and the tail lighting up for his beam attack).. I like that they are open to implementing some of those visuals instead of flat out ignoring them as it means everyone adds to the longevity of the character

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On 7/12/2023 at 9:40 AM, CayceG said:

Not a fan of the movement of Godzilla. Too cgi for my tastes. But I'm always happy with Japanese Godzillas, so I'll catch it. 

 

I'm a fucking idiot. 

 

I just got done seeing Minus One. This is not only the best Godzilla movie since the original 1954 Gojira. It is also the best movie I've seen all year, beating out Oppenheimer. 

 

 

No spoilers here, but the human characters are perfect, compelling, INCREDIBLY distinct, well acted, and really brought out my emotions. The music in this movie is to die for. Lots of great music, including reusing Akira Ifukube's scores. The action and effects are out of this world good. The practicality and realism of everything happening really grounds the movie for me, even if it does surround an overgrown lizard. 

 

To put it short, this is a perfect movie. The pacing was right where it needed to be. There were moments where I wanted to stand up and cheer. There's also great little easter eggs for nerds like me who love this series. 

 

Holy hell. I'm still in awe. Perfect 10/10.

Go see Godzilla Minus One while you still can. 

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2 hours ago, CayceG said:

 

I'm a fucking idiot. 

 

I just got done seeing Minus One. This is not only the best Godzilla movie since the original 1954 Gojira. It is also the best movie I've seen all year, beating out Oppenheimer. 

 

 

No spoilers here, but the human characters are perfect, compelling, INCREDIBLY distinct, well acted, and really brought out my emotions. The music in this movie is to die for. Lots of great music, including reusing Akira Ifukube's scores. The action and effects are out of this world good. The practicality and realism of everything happening really grounds the movie for me, even if it does surround an overgrown lizard. 

 

To put it short, this is a perfect movie. The pacing was right where it needed to be. There were moments where I wanted to stand up and cheer. There's also great little easter eggs for nerds like me who love this series. 

 

Holy hell. I'm still in awe. Perfect 10/10.

Go see Godzilla Minus One while you still can. 

 

 

It really was good, and the movie is more about the humans than Godzilla, unlike the modern flicks where the humans are there but are misused window dressing 

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Saw this a few weeks ago and still can't stop thinking about how hard this slapped. So glad I saw this in a theater.

 

Also how was this made on a 15 million dollar budget? Usually foreign movies have CGI that are a few years behind Hollywood but this one looked better than a lot of Hollywood movies.

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This movie completely rules. I saw it in the theater, but I’ll probably rewatch it on Netflix soon. 
 

It helps that our main human character has a compelling story before the monster even shows up. 

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32 minutes ago, TheLeon said:

This movie completely rules. I saw it in the theater, but I’ll probably rewatch it on Netflix soon. 
 

It helps that our main human character has a compelling story before the monster even shows up. 

 

Nice to hear. I'm debating if I should watch this on my 65" rather than my phone. :p

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Over an hour into this and I'm SUPER impressed with the cgi. Godzilla looks real for once and the destruction is incredible. I like the build up with the main character. 

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11 minutes ago, Best said:

Over an hour into this and I'm SUPER impressed with the cgi. Godzilla looks real for once and the destruction is incredible. I like the build up with the main character. 

worth a watch?

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12 minutes ago, Biggie said:

worth a watch?

 

Absolutely. I have about 30 minutes left and it's excellent. The last Godzilla I saw was the atrocious 1998 version with Matthew Broderick.

 

In that they were afraid to show Godzilla in the daylight and it would always be dark and rainy when he'd make his presence.

 

In this not only are they confident in showing him it looks fuckin real. Now I'm watching it on my phone so I'm not getting the best viewing experience. But Godzilla is shown in broad daylight and he causes unimaginable damage in this. I was blown away when he made his entrance into the city. So fucking cool. 

 

But even saying all that the actual characters and story here are great. I actually care about what's actually happening. 

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How is Godzilla vs Kong? It's on Max. 

 

You'll need to have seen Godzilla (2014), Kong: Skull Island and Godzilla: King of the Monsters (in that order) before seeing Godzilla vs. Kong as it's all a connected universe that builds on each other. Then after Godzilla vs. Kong there's Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire. These are all American made Hollywood films, Legacy Pictures' "Monsterverse" hence all being connected. Godzilla Minus One is made by Japan and is a one-off film all on its own. It's the second film in Japan's newest Godzilla movie making "era" (the last one ended in 2004 with Godzilla: Final Wars). Japan's only made two new live-action Godzilla movies since: Shin Godzilla in 2016 and Godzilla Minus One, and they are not connected. Shin Godzilla is really good, you might enjoy it but it's very different than Godzilla Minus One. It's more about how the Japanese bureaucracy would genuinely handle a rising Godzilla threat in modern day but it's got some good Godzilla action when it happens. But the American Godzilla movies they've been making since 2014 are all connected.

 

While they are connected (and enjoyable to watch, so I recommend them), there is also the TV show Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (one season out so far) and the animated show Skull Island (one season so far, eight episodes). Neither are all that essential to the movies though Monarch is just particularly a pretty good show so you would watch that after Godzilla vs. Kong. Here's the watch order based on production order (meaning, in the order they came out):

 

-Godzilla (2014)

-Kong: Skull Island

-Godzilla: King of the Monsters

-Godzilla vs. Kong

-Skull Island (animated TV show on Netflix)

-Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (live-action TV show on Apple+)

-Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire

 

Obviously these movies are all fun and silly for the most part, so you don't have to do it this way, you could just jump in wherever but you'd be missing out on a lot of how the situation got to the point where it does in Godzilla vs. Kong, for example.

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I saw this on Saturday and was not expecting to be

 

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Train to Busan'd with that ending but in a happy way. If this was a Hollywood film, I 100% would have thought Noriko survived. I wasn't even swayed by the telegram.

 

This is a damn fine movie that needs the 4K treatment stat.

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You'll need to have seen Godzilla (2014), Kong: Skull Island and Godzilla: King of the Monsters (in that order) before seeing Godzilla vs. Kong as it's all a connected universe that builds on each other. Then after Godzilla vs. Kong there's Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire. These are all American made Hollywood films, Legacy Pictures' "Monsterverse" hence all being connected. Godzilla Minus One is made by Japan and is a one-off film all on its own. It's the second film in Japan's newest Godzilla movie making "era" (the last ended in 2004 with Godzilla: Final Wars). Japan's only made two new live-action Godzilla movies since: Shin Godzilla in 2016 and Godzilla Minus One, and they are not connected. Shin Godzilla is really good, you might enjoy it but it's very different than Godzilla Minus One. It's more about how the Japanese bureaucracy would genuinely handle a rising Godzilla threat in modern day but it's got some good Godzilla action when it happens. But the American Godzilla movies they've been making since 2014 are all connected.

 

While they are connected (and enjoyable to watch, so I recommend them), there is also the TV show Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (one season out so far) and the animated show Skull Island (one season so far, eight episodes). Neither are all that essential to the movies though Monarch is just particularly a pretty good show so you would watch that after Godzilla vs. Kong. Here's the watch order based on production order (meaning, in the order they came out):

 

-Godzilla (2014)

-Kong: Skull Island

-Godzilla: King of the Monsters

-Godzilla vs. Kong

-Skull Island (animated TV show on Netflix)

-Monarch: Legacy of Monsters (live-action TV show on Apple+)

-Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire

 

Obviously these movies are all fun and silly for the most part, so you don't have to do it this way, you could just jump in wherever but you'd be missing out on a lot of how the situation got to the point where it does in Godzilla vs. Kong, for example.

 

I've only seen Kong: Skull Island. Hmm, maybe I'll just jump into Godzilla vs Kong just for the spectacle then. Reading reviews about 10 minutes ago they say the characters and story are kinda just filler compared to the battle sequences between the monsters. I'm not a big Godzilla fan overall so I might just jump in. Thanks for the breakdown though. 

 

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Doesn't hold a candle to Minus One. 

 

I wouldn't think so. Minus One is one of the better movies I've seen in a long while. From right in the beginning I was hooked. I still can't get over just how great the effects were for a movie that had a 10 million dollar budget. 

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I've only seen Kong: Skull Island. Hmm, maybe I'll just jump into Godzilla vs Kong just for the spectacle then. Reading reviews about 10 minutes ago they say the characters and story are kinda just filler compared to the battle sequences between the monsters. I'm not a big Godzilla fan overall so I might just jump in. Thanks for the breakdown though. 

 

No problem, and yeah these movies are primarily about spectacle so it's not super required but it is fun to see the build up. Either way, Godzilla vs. Kong is fun, it's fine, but yeah, it doesn't hold a candle to Shin Godzilla or Godzilla Minus One. Honestly Godzilla (2014) and Kong: Skull Island are probably still the best of the recent American ones (and Monarch: Legacy of Monsters was pretty good).

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You guys were correct. Godzilla vs Kong was just "fine" but isn't at the level of Minus One. Also, how was the cgi WORSE than Minus One with a $135 million dollar budget? This just makes me appreciate Minus One that much more. 

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You guys were correct. Godzilla vs Kong was just "fine" but isn't at the level of Minus One. Also, how was the cgi WORSE than Minus One with a $135 million dollar budget? This just makes me appreciate Minus One that much more. 

 

It's how the movie is shot and how the special effects are implemented rather than anything to do with budget. It's why the original Star Wars trilogy and the Lord of the Rings trilogy, with their miniatures and models and real make-up and practical effects that are tactile and real are simply much better looking to us vs. the very unreal-feeling effects of CG. Also, the Godzilla in Minus One is primarily the only real effect and is deployed only so often in the film which is otherwise shot on real sets, etc. But Godzilla vs. Kong a lot of things are CG all the time, from the backgrounds to both title characters to the Hollow Earth stuff, etc. The more CG you have in your shots, the more the overall shots will look fake looking. Even Avatar: The Way of Water for how much money has been poured into it is clearly CG stuff vs. real, tactile feeling and looking stuff from the days before CG. This IGN article explains things in further depth if you're curious why the Godzilla in Minus One looks so good compared to the one in Godzilla vs. Kong. The Godzilla in Shin Godzilla is also more tactile looking like the one in Minus One than the American Godzilla films.

 

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Godzilla Minus One Did VFX the ’90s Way and That's Why It Won an Oscar - IGN

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Godzilla Minus One’s Oscar win proves Hollywood needs to change its attitude towards VFX.

 

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