Greatoneshere Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 48 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I'd put the original cut of Watchmen here, I guess? This is really where he just started showing his whole ass. His treatment of Rorschach Watchment Director's Ultimate Cut or whatever the fuck it's called. It's too long, it adds more shit cribbed from the comic that doesn't need to be there. I think you explained your thoughts really well! I'll simply say I don't feel as beholden to the stupid aspects of his movies "ruining" things for me as it seems it does you but all your criticisms are fair. I just wanted to clarify that there are three cuts of Watchmen; the theatrical cut, the director's cut (I think this is the best version), and then the ultimate cut. The ultimate cut is the same as the director's cut but it inserts the animated Tales from the Black Freighter spliced back into the movie with additional scenes of the newsstand salesman and comic book reader (which is too long). But the director's cut helps explain a number of things the theatrical cut drops/ignores so I think it's a more complete film personally. I wasn't sure which two of the three versions you are referring to in your post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Aah right. I forgot there were three cuts of that movie, lordy lord. I probably thought the directors cut was the original and the ultimate cut was the directors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: Aah right. I forgot there were three cuts of that movie, lordy lord. I probably thought the directors cut was the original and the ultimate cut was the directors. That is how I read it as well when where you were comparing the director's cut to the ultimate cut so I'd agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 Trailer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 On 7/5/2023 at 1:15 PM, Spork3245 said: Buffay: The Vampire Layer Which is literally just Buffy The Vampire Slayer, if you’ve ever actually watched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 That looks like my kind of bullshit. Let’s go!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 It does look fantastic visually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 That looks fucking awesome. An original Sci Fi/Fantasy world with Snyders visual flare? Yeah sign me right the hell up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 based on the length of the trailer and the amount that appears to be going on this is going to 3+ hour movie isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 32 minutes ago, elbobo said: based on the length of the trailer and the amount that appears to be going on this is going to 3+ hour movie isn't it Of course it is... need time for all of the slo mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Looks and sounds pretty fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Looks like someone put Dune, Star Wars and a bunch of crappy Zach Snyder movies in a blender and a trailer slurry came out the other end... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 22, 2023 Author Share Posted August 22, 2023 I remember seeing the trailer for Sucker Punch and thinking "That looks awesome!" Fool me once... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Say what you want, the man knows how to exclusively create movies with the sole intent of making impressive trailers. Beyond that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: I remember seeing the trailer for Sucker Punch and thinking "That looks awesome!" Fool me once... That’s a you thing. That movie never looked good or interesting ever. Even the promotional still looked terrible. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 As others have said, say what you will about Snyder, the man's a brilliant visualist and can cut some seriously good trailers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 I'll wait & see before re-subbing to Netflix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Finally we will get the answer to a question we’ve all asked… what if Dune and Star Wars had a baby but the mother freebased cocaine for the entire pregnancy? “The Scargiver” sounds like the name of a dungeon miniboss from a bootleg D&D manual from the late 1970’s. Also it’s probably Snyder’s own nickname in the halls of Warner Bros, so nice work. It’s not even possible to parody Snyder at this point, he is just constantly human centipiding himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Yeah if Snyder actually wrote most of this, it has no hope of being good. His idea of a good story is whatever gets you to the next visual setpiece the fastest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Reputator said: Yeah if Snyder actually wrote most of this, it has no hope of being good. His idea of a good story is whatever gets you to the next visual setpiece the fastest. I agree, Snyder is more of a director than a writer. Rebel Moon is being co-written by Snyder, his frequent collaborator Kurt Johnstad and Shay Hatten. Snyder and Johnstad co-wrote 300 and 300: Rise of an Empire together. Both are fun, badass, simple movies but written well enough. Snyder and Shay Hatten wrote the recent Army of the Dead together, a solid if ultimately unimpressive new zombie movie. Otherwise, Snyder hasn't really written any of his movies (except co-writing Sucker Punch). So movies like Dawn of the Dead (written by James Gunn), Watchmen (written by David Hayter and Alex Tse) and Man of Steel (written by David S. Goyer) he had little to nothing to do with the screenplays, just the directing. I'm going to ignore the whole Justice League debacle. Kurt Johnstad additionally wrote Act of Valor and Atomic Blonde. Shay Hatten wrote the Army of the Dead spin-off film Army of Thieves as well as co-writing Day Shift (with Jamie Foxx) and John Wick: Chapter 4. So expect the screenwriting quality of this film to be somewhere in the 300/Act of Valor/Atomic Blonde/Army of the Dead/Army of Thieves/John Wick: Chapter 4-type quality, whatever that means to each person. I liked (or loved) most of these movies, so I think there is hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: I agree, Snyder is more of a director than a writer. Rebel Moon is being co-written by Snyder, his frequent collaborator Kurt Johnstad and Shay Hatten. Snyder and Johnstad co-wrote 300 and 300: Rise of an Empire together. Both are fun, badass, simple movies but written well enough. Snyder and Shay Hatten wrote the recent Army of the Dead together, a solid if ultimately unimpressive new zombie movie. Otherwise, Snyder hasn't really written any of his movies (except co-writing Sucker Punch). So movies like Dawn of the Dead (written by James Gunn), Watchmen (written by David Hayter and Alex Tse) and Man of Steel (written by David S. Goyer) he had little to nothing to do with the screenplays, just the directing. I'm going to ignore the whole Justice League debacle. I've not seen 300 2 or whatever, but the absolute worst parts of 300 are the bits that aren't in the comic. Army of the Dead is significantly dumber than Dawn of the Dead. Ignoring Justice League is an "other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play" situation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 Yeah, the trailer looks cool, but I'm also of the mind that that means nothing I'll give it a shot and hope to be pleasantly surprised while expecting vapidness. That said, can't be worse the Episode 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 14 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: I've not seen 300 2 or whatever, but the absolute worst parts of 300 are the bits that aren't in the comic. Army of the Dead is significantly dumber than Dawn of the Dead. Ignoring Justice League is an "other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play" situation Justice League just had too many cooks in the screenplay kitchen for me to want to get into that whole mess. And he's not writing these things alone, is my point. I wouldn't expect a smart movie either way, if that's what you're saying. But dumb movies can work (I mean, we got Atomic Blonde and John Wick: Chapter 4 screenwriters in there too) so we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, legend said: That said, can't be worse the Episode 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9 Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 23, 2023 Share Posted August 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Fixed I actually enjoy 3 quite a lot! It's got obvious problems, but the whole is quite enjoyable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 That didn't look good to me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 24, 2023 Share Posted August 24, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 10:25 AM, Kal-El814 said: I've not seen 300 2 or whatever, but the absolute worst parts of 300 are the bits that aren't in the comic. Army of the Dead is significantly dumber than Dawn of the Dead. Ignoring Justice League is an "other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play" situation Don't bother it's one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 2:32 PM, legend said: I actually enjoy 3 quite a lot! It's got obvious problems, but the whole is quite enjoyable. I agree 3 outside of the terrible romance is pretty damn good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted August 26, 2023 Author Share Posted August 26, 2023 3 hours ago, DPCyric said: I agree 3 outside of the terrible romance is pretty damn good. I've been saying this for YEARS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 Ep: 2>3>6>4>8>5>1>9>7 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, stepee said: Ep: 2>3>6>4>8>5>1>9>7 If the goal was to create the single worst ranking of Star Wars movies in the history of human kind. You sir. Have achieved a resounding success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: If the goal was to create the single worst ranking of Star Wars movies in the history of human kind. You sir. Have achieved a resounding success. It’s just a list of the main Star Wars movies in order from best to worst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 41 minutes ago, stepee said: It’s just a list of the main Star Wars movies in order from best to worst That's what he means. It's a terrible ranking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: That's what he means. It's a terrible ranking. I know what he meant :P I think all other rankings are just based on what generation you are in and mine is the only correct one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted August 26, 2023 Share Posted August 26, 2023 The trailer looks both cheap and high-budget. Like a syfy original was handed a massive amount of money to make a movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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