osxmatt Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 53 minutes ago, Anathema- said: "Dual loyalties," is absolutely a trope used by racists and often aimed at Jewish people. That's not what this is, though. The dual loyalties trope means to suggest that a Jewish person CAN'T be loyal to anything but Israel/other Jewish people. Not for nothing but Catholics also used to be accused of dual loyalties. I can certainly understand "dual loyalties" being antisemitic. But when I hear the phrase "allegiance to another country" I don't think of someone putting the interests of another country above America, or even putting them on equal footing. I think of someone who will defend that country, above the interests of other countries. Which is certainly something the Republican Party seems to do with Israel. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being naive. But again, I don't want to traffic in antisemitism just because my understand of an expression is lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 32 minutes ago, Jason said: As has already been noted to you by others, of course a lobbyist is selling people on the effectiveness of their lobbying efforts. But more importantly, the issue is not whether or not lobbying works (it doesn’t to the extent people think) but whether or not Jews are paying people off to be disloyal to their country. The efficacy of lobbying is not about that specific claim. Supporting the cause of a lobbyist is not inherently disloyal to the nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 So how is someone supposed to criticize how the US is cucked by Israel without being called anti-Semitic? That question is directed to those siding with the GOP on the current condemnation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: So how is someone supposed to criticize how the US is cucked by Israel without being called anti-Semitic? That question is directed to those siding with the GOP on the current condemnation. 1. Stop linking Jew gold to American disloyalty. It really isn’t hard. Criticize the specific policy you have issue with. 2. It’s not the GOP that pushed Omar to apologize. It’s not the House GOP trying to put a resolution together to condemn Omar’s and other’s words which are steeped in anti-Semitic tropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: So how is someone supposed to criticize how the US is cucked by Israel without being called anti-Semitic? That question is directed to those siding with the GOP on the current condemnation. Bipartisan consensus is great There is no way to do it without being called anti-Semitic. People lost their minds when Obama abstained from a UN vote. Anyone who challenges US foreign policy needs be strong enough to withstand a mountain of bad faith accusations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: There is no way to do it without being called anti-Semitic. People lost their minds when Obama abstained from a UN vote. Anyone who challenges US foreign policy needs be strong enough to withstand a mountain of bad faith accusations. Were congressional Dems calling Obama anti-Semitic for his abstention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 goysplain so hard bb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osxmatt Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jason said: That vault handle is ... interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 minute ago, osxmatt said: That vault handle is ... interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Is there a more Hannity / Fox thing than naming a segment after a show that went off the air in 1995? Christ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Dan Crenshaw will absolutely be the next GOP presidential candidate after Trump. He may be a rookie lawmaker, but he has the dumbassery and moronic views of a GOP veteran. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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osxmatt Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 AOC isn’t handling criticism from the left very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 The Al Capone’s vault guy is smarter than Democratic leaders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, RedSoxFan9 said: AOC isn’t handling criticism from the left very well Honestly concerned about your rectal prolapse risk level with all this shitposting. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: The Al Capone’s vault guy is smarter than Democratic leaders Am I taking crazy pills?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: Am I taking crazy pills?!? Clearly his account's been hijacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jason said: Clearly his account's been hijacked. There's really no other way to explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 https://theintercept.com/2019/03/05/the-house-democrats-rebuke-of-rep-ilhan-omar-is-a-fraud-for-many-reasons-including-its-wild-distortion-of-her-comments/ Quote the leading billionaire funder of both the Democratic Party and the Clintons, Haim Saban, has previously described himselfthis way to the New York Times: “I’m a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel.” Hillary Clinton’s key political consultant for her 2008 presidential run, Hank Sheinkopf, who is Jewish, said this to the New York Sun in 2007 when asked why Democratic presidential candidates who were otherwise anti-war were so hawkish when it came to Iran: “New York is the ATM for American politicians. Large amounts of money come from the Jewish community. If you’re running for president and you want dollars from that group, you need to show that you’re interested in the issue that matters most to them.” Quote Everyone is capable of understanding the distinction between “the Saudi governments and its supporters” and “Muslims.” It should not be any more difficult to understand the distinction between “the Israeli governments and its supporters” (which Omar criticized) and “Jews” (who she did not criticize, even implicitly). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/opinion/friedman-newt-mitt-bibi-and-vladimir.html Quote I sure hope that Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, understands that the standing ovation he got in Congress this year was not for his politics. That ovation was bought and paid for by the Israel lobby. the moustache gets it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Pelosi shit the bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 39 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/opinion/friedman-newt-mitt-bibi-and-vladimir.html the moustache gets it WHAT. THE. HELL?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, SFLUFAN said: WHAT. THE. HELL?!? 2011 Geraldo's is way more WTF because he's actually defending a Mooslem Democratic Congresswoman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 @RedSoxFan9 - DON'T CLUTTER THIS THREAD WITH ANCIENT, IRRELEVANT SHIT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 It’s relevant and was referenced in the other article I posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Trump: “A Lot of People Say” George Soros Is Funding the Migrant Caravan House majority leader deletes tweet saying Soros, Bloomberg, Steyer are trying to 'buy' election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 3 hours ago, RedSoxFan9 said: Pelosi shit the bed I was just telling a friend of mine this morning that the whole "critique of Israel=Anti-Semitism" trope that has dominated American politics for the last 60 years is probably over. Rep. Omar is an easy target but because if she's even REMOTELY critical of Israel and American policy they can paint her as being anti-semitic. AIPAC has a disproportionate influence on American politics and there's nothing wrong with saying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: I was just telling a friend of mine this morning that the whole "critique of Israel=Anti-Semitism" trope that has dominated American politics for the last 60 years is probably over. Rep. Omar is an easy target but because if she's even REMOTELY critical of Israel and American policy they can paint her as being anti-semitic. AIPAC has a disproportionate influence on American politics and there's nothing wrong with saying that. While AIPAC money and influence is bipartisan, the isreali government has firmly planted it's flag in the Republican camp, just like the NRA, and will sooner rather than later be a partisan punching bag (not as salient as the gun people because who cares about foreigners am I rite?!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 OLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 What hate??? America is so fucking dumb. I don’t know exactly what’s in the Bible but Christians tell me they support Israel because of something in there when I know for a fact they don’t even go to church. Pelosi went from “hey she’s not doing too bad” to completely shitting the bed. She wants to “unite the country” (lol) but will just continue to widen the divide. omar is getting fucking rooked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBladeRoden Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Pelosi's "No cannibalism" rule didn't last as long as I'd hoped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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