Spork3245 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Just now, Chris- said: Very sad @b_m_b_m_b_m is on sabbatical because this topic combines his two favorite things. Lauren Boebert got smashed on the sub? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: Lauren Boebert got smashed on the sub? Wouldn't that make him sad, since it means he no longer has a shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Wouldn't that make him sad, since it means he no longer has a shot? I assumed he did the smashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 21 hours ago, Spork3245 said: I assumed he did the smashing. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 This is a FANTASTIC Vanity Fair article about the beliefs and behavior of Stockton Rush which predictably led to him and the passengers being turned into biological paste: The ‘Titan’ Submersible Disaster Was Years in the Making, New Details Reveal | Vanity Fair WWW.VANITYFAIR.COM To many in the tight-knit deep-sea exploration community, OceanGate’s submersible dives were reckless and often dangerous, writes best-selling author Susan Casey. Quote I hope they watched the abyss with awe through their viewport, because I’d like to think their last sights were magnificent ones. Quote As the world now knows, Stockton Rush touted himself as a maverick, a disrupter, a breaker of rules. So far out on the visionary curve that, for him, safety regulations were mere suggestions. “If you’re not breaking things, you’re not innovating,” he declared at the 2022 GeekWire Summit. “If you’re operating within a known environment, as most submersible manufacturers do, they don’t break things. To me, the more stuff you’ve broken, the more innovative you’ve been.” In a culture that has adopted the ridiculous mantra “move fast and break things,” that type of arrogance can get a person far. But in the deep ocean, the price of admission is humility—and it’s nonnegotiable. The abyss doesn’t care if you went to Princeton, or that your ancestors signed the Declaration of Independence. If you want to go down into her world, she sets the rules. And her rules are strict, befitting the gravitas of the realm. To descend into the ocean’s abyssal zone—the waters from 10,000 to 20,000 feet—is a serious affair, and because of the annihilating pressures, far more challenging than rocketing into space. The subs that dive into this realm (there aren’t many) are tested and tested and tested. Every component is checked for flaws in a pressure chamber and checked again—and every step of this process is certified by an independent marine classification society. This assurance of safety is known as “classing” a sub. Deep-sea submersibles are constructed of the strongest and most predictable materials, as determined by the laws of physics. In the abyss, that means passengers typically sit inside a titanium (or steel) pressure hull, forged into a perfect sphere—the only shape that distributes pressure symmetrically. That means adding crush-resistant syntactic foam around the sphere for buoyancy and protection, to offset the weight of the titanium. That means redundancy upon redundancy, with no single point of failure. It means a safety plan, a rescue plan, an acute situational awareness at all times. It means respect for the forces in the deep ocean. Which Stockton Rush didn’t have. Hell, this story even features a "Heated Gaming Moment" involving the Mad Catz controller! Quote As chief pilot and the person responsible for operational safety, Lochridge had created a dive plan that included protocols for how to approach the wreck. Any entanglement hazard demands caution and vigilance: touching down at least 50 meters away and surveying the site before coming any closer. Rush disregarded these safety instructions. He landed too close, got tangled in the current, managed to wedge the sub beneath the Andrea Doria’s crumbling bow, and descended into a full-blown panic. Lochridge tried to take the helm, but Rush had refused to let him, melting down for over an hour until finally one of the clients shrieked, “Give him the fucking controller!” At which point Rush hurled the controller, a video-game joystick, at Lochridge’s head. Lochridge freed the sub in 15 minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Man, that really shows the whole thing was pure cause and effect. I want to say "well anyone that irresponsible doesn't deserve to live", but that's really missing the mark. It should be "anyone that irresponsible has no HOPE of living". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Seems like the major takeaway from the article is carbon fiber is no bueno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 I wish they'd cut it out with "move fast and break things". The companies that coined that shit were trying to get you to look at your feed more or buy more HDMI cables. But you get these other psychos who use it to test out their own ego driven bullshit on unsuspecting people who may get run over by a self driving car or crushed at the bottom of the sea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 45 minutes ago, finaljedi said: I wish they'd cut it out with "move fast and break things". The companies that coined that shit were trying to get you to look at your feed more or buy more HDMI cables. But you get these other psychos who use it to test out their own ego driven bullshit on unsuspecting people who may get run over by a self driving car or crushed at the bottom of the sea. Common tech industry saying. Facebook did that and created a monster. My company does it and we’re constantly fixing bugs that never would have been there with a proper dev process. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Move fast and break things is only a valid solution when your a pre seed startup looking for product market fit. One you hit seed you need to cut that shit out and build a proper foundation for the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, chakoo said: Move fast and break things is only a valid solution when your a pre seed startup looking for product market fit. One you hit seed you need to cut that shit out and build a proper foundation for the future Yeah, I was going to say that it's fine when you're in a concept or feasibility stage and trying to see if there's any juice to be had from the squeeze, You should move past that mentality if you're trying to hit MVP, even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Hell, this story even features a "Heated Gaming Moment" involving the Mad Catz controller! Hey I'm still using my Mad Catz SF4 arcade stick I bought in 2009! That thing is built like a tank (although its probaby due to the Sanwa components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: This is a FANTASTIC Vanity Fair article about the beliefs and behavior of Stockton Rush which predictably led to him and the passengers being turned into biological paste: The ‘Titan’ Submersible Disaster Was Years in the Making, New Details Reveal | Vanity Fair WWW.VANITYFAIR.COM To many in the tight-knit deep-sea exploration community, OceanGate’s submersible dives were reckless and often dangerous, writes best-selling author Susan Casey. Hell, this story even features a "Heated Gaming Moment" involving the Mad Catz controller! This really was a fantastic read, and just makes my blood boil in hatred at this foolish, arrogant man-child; I bet Stockton Rush would have gotten along really well with Musk. I said it before, but I really hope there was a moment, however brief, before the implosion that he realized he fucked up big time, and was full of regret at not listening to all the warnings in his final moments. This idiot caused the death of four innocent people. Fuck him. Fuck all prideful jackasses like him. I truly wish that instead there had been a near catastrophic failure that caused the other passengers to sue when they got out, and every warning he was given was proven right, and instead he went bankrupt and if possible some sort of criminal charge. Something to make him realize that everyone who doubted him was actually right. Given some of the passed failed voyages though maybe not if those weren't enough. Reap what you fucking sow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Brick said: This really was a fantastic read, and just makes my blood boil in hatred at this foolish, arrogant man-child; I bet Stockton Rush would have gotten along really well with Musk. Not good enough to get him on the sub though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 He was literally the Ed Nortons character from Glass Onion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I still need to watch Glass Onion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 For those interested, the author of the Vanity Fair article just published a book about explorations of the deep ocean: The Underworld by Susan Casey: 9780385545570 | PenguinRandomHouse.com: Books WWW.PENGUINRANDOMHOUSE.COM NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER • From bestselling author Susan Casey, an awe-inspiring portrait of the mysterious world beneath the waves, and the men and women who seek to uncover its secrets... Quote For all of human history, the deep ocean has been a source of wonder and terror, an unknown realm that evoked a singular, compelling question: What’s down there? Unable to answer this for centuries, people believed the deep was a sinister realm of fiendish creatures and deadly peril. But now, cutting-edge technologies allow scientists and explorers to dive miles beneath the surface, and we are beginning to understand this strange and exotic underworld: A place of soaring mountains, smoldering volcanoes, and valleys 7,000 feet deeper than Everest is high, where tectonic plates collide and separate, and extraordinary life forms operate under different rules. Far from a dark void, the deep is a vibrant realm that’s home to pink gelatinous predators and shimmering creatures a hundred feet long and ancient animals with glass skeletons and sharks that live for half a millennium—among countless other marvels. Susan Casey is our premiere chronicler of the aquatic world. For The Underworld she traversed the globe, joining scientists and explorers on dives to the deepest places on the planet, interviewing the marine geologists, marine biologists, and oceanographers who are searching for knowledge in this vast unseen realm. She takes us on a fascinating journey through the history of deep-sea exploration, from the myths and legends of the ancient world to storied shipwrecks we can now reach on the bottom, to the first intrepid bathysphere pilots, to the scientists who are just beginning to understand the mind-blowing complexity and ecological importance of the quadrillions of creatures who live in realms long thought to be devoid of life. Throughout this journey, she learned how vital the deep is to the future of the planet, and how urgent it is that we understand it in a time of increasing threats from climate change, industrial fishing, pollution, and the mining companies that are also exploring its depths. The Underworld is Susan Casey’s most beautiful and thrilling book yet, a gorgeous evocation of the natural world and a powerful call to arms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Ohio Billionaire to Take Sub to Titanic After OceanGate Implosion WWW.YAHOO.COM Nearly one year after the OceanGate submersible implosion, billionaire Larry Connor has teamed up with Triton Submarines co-founder Patrick Lahey to create a new vessel to visit the Titanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Yes! Keep sending down billionaires. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 The ocean has developed a taste for billionaire blood… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Tell Trump he won the Best Boy in the Universe contest and his reward is a free ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Ohio Billionaire to Take Sub to Titanic After OceanGate Implosion WWW.YAHOO.COM Nearly one year after the OceanGate submersible implosion, billionaire Larry Connor has teamed up with Triton Submarines co-founder Patrick Lahey to create a new vessel to visit the Titanic. This guy planning this is actually one of the people quoted as criticizing the Ocean Gate design in this Vanity Fair article below. I think he'll do just fine and it'll actually be successful. On 8/20/2023 at 10:56 AM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: This is a FANTASTIC Vanity Fair article about the beliefs and behavior of Stockton Rush which predictably led to him and the passengers being turned into biological paste: The ‘Titan’ Submersible Disaster Was Years in the Making, New Details Reveal | Vanity Fair WWW.VANITYFAIR.COM To many in the tight-knit deep-sea exploration community, OceanGate’s submersible dives were reckless and often dangerous, writes best-selling author Susan Casey. Hell, this story even features a "Heated Gaming Moment" involving the Mad Catz controller! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 26 minutes ago, thewhyteboar said: Tell Trump he won the Best Boy in the Universe contest and his reward is a free ticket. Tell him only real billionaires do this type of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 6 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Ohio Billionaire to Take Sub to Titanic After OceanGate Implosion WWW.YAHOO.COM Nearly one year after the OceanGate submersible implosion, billionaire Larry Connor has teamed up with Triton Submarines co-founder Patrick Lahey to create a new vessel to visit the Titanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Speaking of “biological paste”, now that this thread has been bumped, I can finally share my new favorite YouTube vid! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Coast Guard marine investigators release underwater footage of the Titan submersible wreckage APNEWS.COM A U.S. Coast Guard hearing into the catastrophic implosion of a tourist sub en route to the Titanic wreck has released underwater footage of the stricken experimental vessel in which five people died. The United States Coast Guard has released some footage from their investigation. The tail section was blown out and away from the implosion and is resting ~1600 feet off the bow of the Titanic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 More of it managed to stay intact than you would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: More of it managed to stay intact than you would have thought. Really only the pressurized portions of the craft would look mangled. I doubt the tail was pressurized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 3 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: More of it managed to stay intact than you would have thought. The MadCatz controller will be found in one piece and put into a museum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 8 hours ago, mclumber1 said: The MadCatz controller will be found in one piece and put into a museum. "It might suck ass, but by god it still works!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I know it wasn't the problem, but the fact they went with a shitty controller would bother me if I ended up on that thing. Like a first party Xbox or Playstation controller wouldn't ring any bells, But that one looks like it was selected because they went to Walmart and didn't want to get an employee to get one out of the case and went with the only one on the shelf. That NES Advantage controller the Ghostbusters used to pilot the Statue of Liberty looked less out of place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 On 5/29/2024 at 2:39 PM, Uaarkson said: Speaking of “biological paste”, now that this thread has been bumped, I can finally share my new favorite YouTube vid! Anyone curious about how the MadCatz controller faired in the implosion, please reference the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted Monday at 04:41 AM Share Posted Monday at 04:41 AM OceanGate’s ill-fated Titan sub relied on a hand-typed Excel spreadsheet - The Verge WWW.THEVERGE.COM ‘This is an idiotic way to do navigation.’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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