General Gaming Metaphor: ReFantazio | new fantasy RPG from Atlus | October 10, 2024 - Opencritic Posted

[Bacon]

Just now, Best said:

I see. I thought maybe you were struggling somewhere and needed to grind to get past a section.

Nah, I just like getting to a high enough level so I can move forward through the game in a straight line. It's really nice to never really be concerned about levels. It's the same thought process that makes me use the exploits in Mass Effect that raise my paragon and renegade.

 

If I could, I'd just give my characters the exact right level that provides me with a balanced level of difficulty for the whole game.

[Biggie]

33 minutes ago, Bacon said:

because I hate myself

We all do

[Biggie]

If this were on Switch I’d buy it

[Best]

4 minutes ago, Biggie said:

If this were on Switch I’d buy it

 

Why not play it on Xbox or PS5? It's a phenomenal JRPG. 

[Biggie]

8 minutes ago, Best said:

 

Why not play it on Xbox or PS5? It's a phenomenal JRPG. 

These types of games I really hate playing stuck to a television. I love handheld gaming for Atlus RPG’s

[Biggie]

50 minutes ago, Best said:

 

Why not play it on Xbox or PS5? It's a phenomenal JRPG. 

Might try the demo. Xbox or PS5?

[legend]

1 hour ago, Bacon said:

but I wouldn't need to ever fight a mob that respawned or grind again/for a long while. That is always my goal.

 

In the first "real" dungeon (further than where you are) I've noticed that the mobs are not respawning between days, which is different than how it was in Persona games. I kind of like it, because you don't feel quite as punished if you stop early.

[Best]

2 minutes ago, Biggie said:

Might try the demo. Xbox or PS5?

 

I haven't looked into where the game may run better. I'm on PS5 and it's completely fine. 

[Bacon]

1 minute ago, legend said:

In the first "real" dungeon

The grand cathedral isn't the first real dungeon?

[Bacon]

Also, like with every persona ever, I am using a 100% guide so I always end up doing all dungeons in 1 in-game day.

[Best]

42 minutes ago, Bacon said:

Also, like with every persona ever, I am using a 100% guide so I always end up doing all dungeons in 1 in-game day.

 

Use a guide for what?

[Bacon]

15 minutes ago, Best said:

 

Use a guide for what?

So I can ensure I see all the social links while maxing out all of my social stats. "On Monday hang out with Friend A and spend the night studying to raise intellect. On Tuesday, enter the dungeon. On Wednesday, speak to Person B in the back alley, and spend time with Friend B at night." That sort of stuff. Not sure if you have to do it in M:R, but in persona, your days had to be planned out ahead if you wanted to see max everything in one go.

 

I don't really replay games so I try to get the most out of it in the first play-thru.

Spoiler

Like, I already know I won't see the super boss because it requires you to enter NG+ and bascially replay the entire game as your levels don't carry over.

 

[Best]

3 minutes ago, Bacon said:

So I can ensure I see all the social links while maxing out all of my social stats. "On Monday hang out with Friend A and spend the night studying to raise intellect. On Tuesday, enter the dungeon. On Wednesday, speak to Person B in the back alley, and spend time with Friend B at night." That sort of stuff. Not sure if you have to do it in M:R, but in persona, your days had to be planned out ahead if you wanted to see max everything in one go.

 

I don't really replay games so I try to get the most out of it in the first play-thru.

 

You're hardcore!

[Bacon]

I'm sure Knight has its uses with it being a tank and all, but fuck do I find it to be trash. It feels totally useless outside of First Aid and a few Combos.

[Xbob42]

Hey some of those 3+ character combos quite literally make the archetype!

[legend]

2 hours ago, Bacon said:

The grand cathedral isn't the first real dungeon?

 

Ah no, sorry, that's right. I thought you were talking about the very first dungeony place you go. IIRC that does have respawning mobs, but that is not the case for the Grand Cathedral. Or least I never ran into any, and mobs that used to be there on one day that I killed were not when I came back the next.

[Bacon]

Just now, Xbob42 said:

Hey some of those 3+ character combos quite literally make the archetype!

For sure, but this early on it sucks balls to be using a character with weak melee attacks and no magic or physical spells. Made the elf a mage.

[Bacon]

1 minute ago, legend said:

Grand Cathedral. Or least I never ran into any, and mobs that used to be there on one day that I killed were not when I came back the next.

Oh, well mobs to respawn. Not all of them, but a lot of them. You just need to get far away enough from them or load a new zone and some of them will respawn.

[legend]

2 hours ago, Bacon said:

Also, like with every persona ever, I am using a 100% guide so I always end up doing all dungeons in 1 in-game day.

 

Like P5, that seems rough on the first dungeon unless you're just running past enemies. Keeping the mana up is hard early level is hard. And worse, it's not like P5 where they force you back before the boss fight. If you're going all in one go, that includes the boss.

[legend]

Just now, Bacon said:

Oh, well mobs to respawn. Not all of them, but a lot of them. You just need to get far away enough from them or load a new zone and some of them will respawn.

 

I ran back to other zones and the enemies were still dead.

[Xbob42]

Also I wouldn't be too focused on the calendar to begin with.

 

Metaphor: ReFantazio borrows Persona's iconic calendar system, but devs say players don't need to "worry about missing out on activities due to time constraints"

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The team "didn't want players to feel limited by time"

 

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"We didn't want players to feel limited by time," states the director. "You'll be able to return later to places you've visited using a fast travel system, so you can do everything you want without feeling rushed."

 

[Best]

Good to know. 

[BloodyHell]

59 minutes ago, Bacon said:

The grand cathedral isn't the first real dungeon?

There is a separate dungeon that is found as part of a quest . I did that one before Grand Cathedral. 

[legend]

@Xbob42 btw this is so much fucking better without the speed lines and blur. God damn that was annoying. 

[Xbob42]

1 minute ago, legend said:

@Xbob42 btw this is so much fucking better without the speed lines and blur. God damn that was annoying. 

I hated it so much I literally refused to sprint until I got the mod!

[Bacon]

Didn't play much of this today. Spent most of my time in the Khazan beta test. It's a great souls-like. 100% recommend.

[BloodyHell]

Man, I love the Guantlet Runner 😆 

 

Using the bathroom on it gives you 100exp per day, and the pantry gives you new cooking materials daily as well.

[Xbob42]

I think the skill for a certain class is broken.

 

Spoiler

Passive skill for merchant, "alchemy" says it has a chance to drop a small sum of money when you stun or kill a field enemy. But it's a 100% chance. So you can just one-shot weaker enemies and farm up tons of cash.

 

[Best]

I'm about to play in 5 minutes. Such a great RPG. 

[Biggie]

This game is cool but if I can’t play it on the Switch in handheld mode I ain’t getting it. 

[Best]

5 minutes ago, Biggie said:

This game is cool but if I can’t play it on the Switch in handheld mode I ain’t getting it. 

 

I don't understand this stance but you're missing out on one of the best RPG's in recent years. 

[Bacon]

@legend

Fewer enemies than I thought respawn but some do respawn.

No audio cuz I different audio sources fucked shit up.

 

Just posting as an FYI in case someone needs enemies to kill or grind. Like in the video, it's mostly enemies that spawn in side rooms that respawn. Tho, on one of the higher floors, there are these floating grey alien sperm ghosts that also respawn.

[Best]

How many hours have you got in this? 

[Bacon]

Just now, Best said:

How many hours have you got in this? 

10

[BloodyHell]

Im in the third major city, did two main story dungeons. Second story dungeon is half the length of the first. Every time I feel the story slowing down I get to another crescendo. 23 hours in game.