thedarkstark Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: At least it had an ending unlike V. It had an ending... it was just in movie format and came on a separate disc that was only in the special edition For real though fuck Konami for rushing it out & then ousting Kojima. The planned ending was actually pretty cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, thedarkstark said: It had an ending... it was just in movie format and came on a separate disc that was only in the special edition For real though fuck Konami for rushing it out & then ousting Kojima. The planned ending was actually pretty cool. BRB, digging through game files to find it And I love MGSV but yeesh, the ending that was given is a big nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: I would agree that MGS4 does a pretty damn good job of cleaning up most of the dangling stuff brought up in MGS1 and 2 in particular, as well as some stuff from 3 that… probably didn’t need addressing but they did anyway. There are parts of it that are an obvious love letter to the series so far and those by and large work very well. Act 4 is 100% feels and the final fight is pure MGS anime bullshit and it’s great. I also think that 4 does the worst job in the series of exploring its gameplay concepts. Octocamo is a great way of addressing the amount of time you spent in menus playing dress up with Big Boss, but it’s also the game with the least emphasis on infiltration up until that point, so it feels less important than it might have been in earlier games. The B&B Corps are the least interesting bosses in the series; they’re derivative and you find out most of what happened with them from Drebin infodumps after the fact. And while I love me some MGS cutscenes, the gameplay / cinematic ratio in 4 is the worst in the series. It’s maybe a 20 hour game your first time through and there are 8 hours of cutscenes. It’s not like it sucks or anything, it’s just the least interesting game to play in the series for me. I would actually agree with everything you said - including that MGS4 explores its gameplay concepts the least of all the games. I think, to be fair, this was a case of Kojima's reach exceeding his grasp because of the limitations of the PS3 hardware; hence why he then went on to make Peace Walker and MGS5. Imagine if he made MGS4 today - it would probably look a lot more like MGS5 with a home base (probably with Sunny and all), much more open world rather than semi-open mini-worlds per chapter, etc. The B&B Corps at least had cool going for them but I agree they're derivative for MGS but I will say the loud cow-noise making bio-organic mechs were a real cool enemy. I think the rub here is you said "it's the least interesting game to play" and I think that's where you're an MGS fan perhaps more in it for the gameplay (a good thing!). I agree with you that it's still a great game but the least interesting to play but it is one of the best to watch and experience (I still think you need to play the game to get full enjoyment, just watching a Youtube gameplay compilation isn't the same feeling) and that might explain the difference in review scores. 43 minutes ago, thedarkstark said: It had an ending... it was just in movie format and came on a separate disc that was only in the special edition For real though fuck Konami for rushing it out & then ousting Kojima. The planned ending was actually pretty cool. 26 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: BRB, digging through game files to find it And I love MGSV but yeesh, the ending that was given is a big nothing. Not letting Kojima finish MGS5 still makes me hate Konami despite wanting good remakes of the MGS games. Without Kojima involved it will be weird. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Forget MGS4 the next collection should be Metal Gear Acid. Let's go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Forget MGS4 the next collection should be Metal Gear Acid. Let's go! I would appreciate a collection of the portable games. I played a little Peace Walker, but not Acid or the Game Boy game. …but I also want MGS4. I want it all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkstark Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Forget MGS4 the next collection should be Metal Gear Acid. Let's go! IDK if this is sarcasm or not but I actually really liked the Acid games, especially 2. They were pretty flawed but lots of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 MGSV remains the only game in this series I actually had fun playing. Listening to Kojima write dialog where he basically sucks himself off for 4 hours is so goddamn tedious. Which is why V was so good! Shame the whole game couldn't be more like Ground Zeroes, though. The environment to actually traverse and explore in V was almost as bad as Dragon's Dogma. Just shitty ass brown rock and sand for miles and miles and a little splash of greenery here or there, and almost no indoor locations at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Xbob42 said: MGSV remains the only game in this series I actually had fun playing. Listening to Kojima write dialog where he basically sucks himself off for 4 hours is so goddamn tedious. Which is why V was so good! Shame the whole game couldn't be more like Ground Zeroes, though. The environment to actually traverse and explore in V was almost as bad as Dragon's Dogma. Just shitty ass brown rock and sand for miles and miles and a little splash of greenery here or there, and almost no indoor locations at all. Well to be fair on top of the Afghanistan map you had the jungle-like Angola map so it was two open world maps at least. But the lack of indoor locations for most of the game was one big down side, I agree. The Angola map at least had more indoor locations it felt like than the much more open desert and rock Afghanistan map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 That was not a fucking jungle map! It was just another desert with a few trees! Somehow it feels even more like a desert because it looks so arid and gross! And this was one of the "better" pictures I could find. Absolutely Z-tier artistry by the map team in this game. That was by far my biggest disappointment. There was this one spot that looked more "jungle-y" in that it looked kinda like a creek trail with more greenery but man, this is not what I wanted out of a map after escaping a desert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: That was not a fucking jungle map! It was just another desert with a few trees! Somehow it feels even more like a desert because it looks so arid and gross! And this was one of the "better" pictures I could find. Absolutely Z-tier artistry by the map team in this game. That was by far my biggest disappointment. There was this one spot that looked more "jungle-y" in that it looked kinda like a creek trail with more greenery but man, this is not what I wanted out of a map after escaping a desert. I totally agree I just wanted to be clear there were at least two maps! You do see how Death Stranding expanded on this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Yeah, Kojima's some kinda petrology perv! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: That was not a fucking jungle map! It was just another desert with a few trees! Somehow it feels even more like a desert because it looks so arid and gross! And this was one of the "better" pictures I could find. Absolutely Z-tier artistry by the map team in this game. That was by far my biggest disappointment. There was this one spot that looked more "jungle-y" in that it looked kinda like a creek trail with more greenery but man, this is not what I wanted out of a map after escaping a desert. Agree with all of the graphics comments including the Dragons Dogma remark. This is what made me disinterested in playing much of MGS5 more so than the story which for me was a let down also because I was a fan of the previous style, but the environments were so borrrrrrring. The core gameplay is fun, I won’t argue that, but I just didn’t want to be in that world at all so I bounced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 If MGSV was made now, it could have taken some inspiration from BOTW, Eldin Ring, and TOTK and have dungeon-like indoor areas to have some classic, crafted stealth areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Haven't read all of this thread yet but, as primarily a PC gamer, I'm a bit disappointed that the collection won't be multi platform also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, Nokra said: Haven't read all of this thread yet but, as primarily a PC gamer, I'm a bit disappointed that the collection won't be multi platform also. Where did we see an announcement that it won't be multi-platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 26, 2023 Author Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, AbsolutSurgen said: Where did we see an announcement that it won't be multi-platform? The collection has only been officially announced for the PS5 so far, but a message from the development team on the official teaser website says this: Quote "Currently, the development team are working together to create an environment where fans can experience and enjoy the METAL GEAR series on the latest platforms. "...we will deliver the METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION series, the most complete compilation that celebrates the 35th anniversary of the series. The METAL GEAR SOLID: MASTER COLLECTION allows fans to play the games as they were, as first released on the latest platforms." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I read that as well, which is why I was confused by @Nokra's comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 1 hour ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Where did we see an announcement that it won't be multi-platform? I was mostly going off of the thread title. Hopefully the message from the devs means it will be multi platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 5/26/2023 at 2:25 PM, Nokra said: Haven't read all of this thread yet but, as primarily a PC gamer, I'm a bit disappointed that the collection won't be multi platform also. Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 launches October 24 for PS5, Xbox Series, Switch, and PC - Gematsu WWW.GEMATSU.COM Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 will launch for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series, Switch, and PC via Steam both physically and digitally on October 24 for $59.99, Konami announced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 launches October 24 for PS5, Xbox Series, Switch, and PC - Gematsu WWW.GEMATSU.COM Metal Gear Solid: Master Collection Vol. 1 will launch for PlayStation 5, Xbox Series, Switch, and PC via Steam both physically and digitally on October 24 for $59.99, Konami announced. Great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I don’t know what’s more disappointing: that this collection costs $60, or that I’ll absolutely buy it day one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Yeah it's literally a port with nothing done to it. In fact they de-listed these games digitally a while ago and they are bringing them back now, which is what this is. You could play it making it a lot nicer on something like a Duckstation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I’ll get this to have them officially on pc for sure. Even though the next play through of MGS3 will be the remake and the next play through of MGS1 I think I will do Twin Snakes in 3D. But MGS2 500th play through could be this version. I’m actually craving a play through of it lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Seems like a fun game to play through on the Steam Deck, if it works well on that platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Nokra said: Seems like a fun game to play through on the Steam Deck, if it works well on that platform. I mean it already works well on that platform wink wink 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TwinIon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I didn't find that trailer nearly as impressive as most other UE5 reels, which isn't to say it doesn't look good. I never got around to Snake Eater, as I was never the biggest fan of the series, but maybe I'll give the remaster a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I never got around to Snake Eater, as I was never the biggest fan of the series, but maybe I'll give the remaster a try. The gigantic flaw with that game was that you can litteraly run through a "stage" without any combat to reach the next checkpoint or level. I was extremely disappointed by just running through the stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikachu Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 minute ago, best3444 said: The gigantic flaw with that game was that you can litteraly run through a "stage" without any combat to reach the next checkpoint or level. I was extremely disappointed by just running through the stages. I don't agree that's a flaw personally. MGS is a stealth action game, being able to get through a stage non-lethally and without engaging in combat with enemy is actually quite approriate and unique to the genre. In fact you are rewarded handsomely by the game for being non-lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Yeah that's not a flaw. Like Pikachu said it's a stealth game so a non lethal run is there by design. In fact shooting people is frowned upon but you're free to do that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Well I mean I would litteraly run ran past the enemy to the next zone. There wasn't any stealth at all. No action, just me running to point A to B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, best3444 said: Well I mean I would litteraly run ran past the enemy to the next zone. There wasn't any stealth at all. No action, just me running to point A to B. Well if you have it on easy or normal difficulty then yeah, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Well if you have it on easy or normal difficulty then yeah, obviously. Maybe I did. It's been a long time. So on harder difficulties does it require you to play stealthy and espionage like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Did the 4k/120 pc mod come out yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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