Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I know this is just part of a Max dump, but it’s honestly rude to put out a trailer like this then tell me I’ve gotta wait a year to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Down for Park Chan-wook but don't have Max so will probably never see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 On 4/13/2023 at 12:47 AM, Keyser_Soze said: Down for Park Chan-wook but don't have Max so will probably never see it. Sail the seas adventurer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 The book was a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, unogueen said: Sail the seas adventurer. Too much work. It's a lot easier to not do anything instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Just imagine the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, unogueen said: Just imagine the whole thing. Your imagination is much more vivid than mine. I'll leave that to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Greatoneshere Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Will definitely be watching this. I keep meaning to watch Chan-wook Park's previous TV show, The Little Drummer Girl as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 15 Author Share Posted April 15 This debuted tonight and I very much enjoyed the first episode! I think it really captured the impending sense of absurdity and desperation within Saigon in the days leading up to its fall to the NVA. Isn't that right, Uncle Ho? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Great start! We’re really getting spoiled with TV lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 @foosh was impressed by the spoken Vietnamese dialogue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Finally caught the first episode (of what looks like will be seven total episodes). This was a really strong start to a show I had very little idea what it was about going in but I come away wanting to watch more. Some of the broad comedy feels tonally misplaced but overall I really enjoyed an area of the Vietnam War that isn't often covered. Hard to believe it'll be 50 years next April since the Fall of Saigon. Chan-wook Park, who not only directs the first three episodes but co-writes all seven, brings all of his incredible skills to bear on the episode, so it is really well made and directed. Everyone should really check this out alongside other recent TV winners like The Gentlemen, Fallout, Tokyo Vice (season 2), Shogun, 3 Body Problem and Invincible (season 2) just to name some really recent stuff. The A.V. Club really enjoyed the first episode as well. The Sympathizer premiere: A unique spy thriller with a lot to say WWW.AVCLUB.COM Oldboy director Park Chan-wook's HBO miniseries weaves a tangled web of lies, timeline jumps, and historical fury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 I liked this past Sunday's episode even more than the premiere as the show begins to dig in and lay out the long term game plan. The main actor Hoa Xuende is doing an incredible job playing smooth and sociable with an entire breadth of things happening behind the eyes underneath the surface. Also if you wanted to know if Chan-wook Park would add another bizarre scene with a squid into something he's made, well, he's done it again. Far less uncomfortable than in Old Boy at least, but weird all the same. Getting so much Chan-wook Park all at once is so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 OLOLOLOLOLOLOLO @ RDJ playing a third character in this episode! Also, OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO @ the gift of a knife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 Oh God - four RDJs in one scene and each one representing the worst aspects of American institutions: the military/intelligence complex, academia, politics, and entertainment 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foosh Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/16/2024 at 5:26 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: @foosh was impressed by the spoken Vietnamese dialogue! Yah. I wish you could all understand it too because the subtitles are a bit more tame compared to whats actually being said lol. Not much more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 On 4/14/2023 at 1:31 AM, Moa said: The book was a lot of fun. The book is both brilliant and intimidating. i had to read it for an MFA in creative writing, and a few pages into it, I thought I was a joke of a writer compared to the masterpiece he put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I had unfortunately fallen behind on this show and finally caught up, just watched the sixth (and penultimate) episode just now (out of seven episodes for the season). This has been an incredibly interesting if meandering show that does whatever it wants in any given episode. I've really enjoyed the intimate details and strange characters that inhabit the show though the show does feel like it's not ultimately about much. I wonder if they'll adapt the sequel novel, I think the show has been at least handsomely made but given it's relatively low IMDb score of 7/10 with only one more episode to go I'm thinking this show's surreal sense of time and unreliable narrator has been too much work for most viewers to keep up with the show. I think the show's best bits have been when it outwardly mocks different aspects of America and how blatantly racist everything was in subtle and small ways that everyone just accepted. Just one more episode to go, comes out this upcoming Sunday. I hope more here check it out as it is very different than most of what they're making at this level and I think most users here would enjoy something with a little more intellectual meat on the bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 "America, they eat your heart, then complain about indigestion." 22 hours ago, Greatoneshere said: I'm thinking this show's surreal sense of time and unreliable narrator has been too much work for most viewers to keep up with the show. With each passing episode, I get the sense that the show's heightened realism/surrealism indicates that the events occuring in the United States aren't actually real, that he never escaped the fall of Saigon, and that he's constructed this entire double agent persona as a means to psychologically endure the prison camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "America, they eat your heart, then complain about indigestion." With each passing episode, I get the sense that the show's heightened realism/surrealism indicates that the events occuring in the United States aren't actually real, that he never escaped the fall of Saigon, and that he's constructed this entire double agent persona as a means to psychologically endure the prison camp. That quote really got me. Felt like they absolutely nailed the metaphor in that scene. And I think I agree with you: Spoiler It's strange that Man doesn't seem to be around in the North Vietnamese reeducation camp and that every scene where the Captain imagines speaking to Man when they exchange letters feels like something that he really is just making up. They also imply it could be someone else entirely receiving the Captains letters. I also feel like Claude knows that the Captain is a double agent because I feel like he's always fucking with him, but maybe that's just me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 45 minutes ago, Greatoneshere said: Reveal hidden contents It's strange that Man doesn't seem to be around in the North Vietnamese reeducation camp and that every scene where the Captain imagines speaking to Man when they exchange letters feels like something that he really is just making up. They also imply it could be someone else entirely receiving the Captains letters. I also feel like Claude knows that the Captain is a double agent because I feel like he's always fucking with him, but maybe that's just me. I do kinda recall a scene in the re-education camp from an episode or two ago where Spoiler the interrogator tells the Captain that there is no record of his handler. From that point was when I really started to question the reality of the events in the US. Of course, the interrogator could be lying, but it was enough to plant a seed of doubt in my mind and really changed the way I engage with the series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 Turns out I was completely wrong in my theories about the nature of this series That really was a helluva series finale! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 23 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: That really was a helluva series finale! Yeah this was a very enjoyable finale! The twist with Man was pretty obvious once they introduced the commissar but outside of that this was a great final statement on the thesis of this show regarding masks and identities. It's a shame more people didn't check the show out, as the book it's based on has a sequel book called The Committed and it'd be cool if they adapted that next but I doubt that's going to happen now. Still, it was great to have a prestige TV show be weird when these days that's not so frequent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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