TUFKAK Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, sblfilms said: What else is there to say to your hyperbole? The truth is that most people aren’t bothered by well intentioned messages even if they find the underlying notion to be false. I mean I’m bothered by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, sblfilms said: What else is there to say to your hyperbole? The truth is that most people aren’t bothered by well intentioned messages even if they find the underlying notion to be false. Hyperbole, lol. Okay, it's a Muslim doctor and it's all up to Allah now. The pearls would be clutched and we'd have to hear about the collapse of society and how the "arabs" have infiltrated our hospitals. There's no hyperbole, because similar shit happens all the time. Christians are the absolute fucking worst at taking well intentioned messages. 30 years of the "war on Christmas" should've clued you in to this. The War on Christmas Is Winning - The Atlantic WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM The holiday is becoming a less religious occasion for millions of Americans. The War on Christmas is a war on America WWW.WASHINGTONTIMES.COM The left hates Christmas because it hates all expressions of faith in our society. On a deeper level, however, the War on Christmas is a war on America. Also since when the hell is "I'll try my best but it's up to luck/the easter bunny/god/allah!" a well intentioned message?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: Hyperbole, lol. Okay, it's a Muslim doctor and it's all up to Allah now. The pearls would be clutched and we'd have to hear about the collapse of society and how the "arabs" have infiltrated our hospitals. There's no hyperbole, because similar shit happens all the time. Christians are the absolute fucking worst at taking well intentioned messages. 30 years of the "war on Christmas" should've clued you in to this. The War on Christmas Is Winning - The Atlantic WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM The holiday is becoming a less religious occasion for millions of Americans. The War on Christmas is a war on America WWW.WASHINGTONTIMES.COM The left hates Christmas because it hates all expressions of faith in our society. On a deeper level, however, the War on Christmas is a war on America. These articles don’t back up your point, but nice job making a new point that you can actually defend. Some call it goal post shifting, but it’s fine to tacitly concede and move on. Yes, religious majorities dislike secularization of their holidays, agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, TUFKAK said: I mean I’m bothered by it. Which is fine. As you’ve also described, you are happy to be intentionally offensive to individual people, to their face, who hold religious beliefs. That is also an outlier position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 It can be simultaneously true that: - Most people don't get offended at well-intended phrases, even if they disagree with the underlying premise; and - Judeo-Christian hegemony over those phrases excludes some premises from popular consumption. It's not a zero sum argument! Plenty of people - even the non-religious - lack offense when they hear, 'God bless you' after sneezing. A not insignificant portion of those folks would also be offended if Satan was evoked for their benefit (even if it were genuine). 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Chris- said: It can be simultaneously true that: - Most people don't get offended at well-intended phrases, even if they disagree with the underlying premise; and - Judeo-Christian hegemony over those phrases excludes some premises from popular consumption. It's not a zero sum argument! Plenty of people - even the non-religious - lack offense when they hear, 'God bless you' after sneezing. A not insignificant portion of those folks would also be offended if Satan was evoked for their benefit (even if it were genuine). Oh yes I agree. I find people don't accept multiple true statements that appear contradictory. I blame it on text. I have go clearly express all my thoughts to make sure there isn't some misunderstanding. I don't have a persons tone and body language to work with in addition to the words. Chat messages about our past leads to blocking. Phone calls with the same info lead to progress is what I found. I think people are used to fighting about the past when talking about it so my calm demeanor makes them calm so they actually want to talk. In theory. I'm 1-1-2 and the draw one might be an L. People need to feel like their's a problem to look for help. If the situation reminds them of past trauma they respond that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 26 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Which is fine. As you’ve also described, you are happy to be intentionally offensive to individual people, to their face, who hold religious beliefs. That is also an outlier position More of, I’m the one doing the work, I’m the one keeping you alive. Your Jewish zombie dad has nothing to do with this. but if you’d prefer him I’ll stop managing your life support, just pray really hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, sblfilms said: What else is there to say to your hyperbole? The truth is that most people aren’t bothered by well intentioned messages even if they find the underlying notion to be false. I'm about as staunch an atheist as anyone here and I'm not really bothered. It is what it is. My mom had her mastectomy yesterday and I had coworkers and others saying they would pray for her and I just said thank you. They're being kind and I don't see a reason to get upset by it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I'm about as staunch an atheist as anyone here and I'm not really bothered. It is what it is. My mom had her mastectomy yesterday and I had coworkers and others saying they would pray for her and I just said thank you. They're being kind and I don't see a reason to get upset by it. Hope the surgery went well! I was thinking about you and your mom on easter as I was talking with my granny about her cancer history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Hope the surgery went well! I was thinking about you and your mom on easter as I was talking with my granny about her cancer history. It did, thank you. She elected for a bilateral and the surgeon said her lymph nodes looked good, though they’re being send to pathology per routine. She’s going home tomorrow. I’m getting ready to make the drive up to see her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 On 4/10/2023 at 4:19 PM, sblfilms said: The particular quote is pretty benign too. I do find such expressions fairly empty though, regardless of whether they are religious or secular in nature. People have a hard time with bad news or sad situations. I'd argue it is infuriating because their shit religion is the reason why she almost died in the first place. It wouldn't be in gods hands if she had access to first world care. I'm not offended if someone says "God bless you" and I'll "pray" at my religious familes get togethers cause most of the time I don't care but I think in this particular case I'd tell them to shove their prayers up their ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 I think the problem I have when people say things like "God bless you" or "I'll pray for you" is just how stupid it sounds in this day and age. I have no problem with people's religious beliefs (or anything really, you do you, so long as you aren't hurting anyone) but it sounds asinine. It's just an insipid and uninspired thing to say. It is what it is. It's not like I'll say anything to them, I just say "thank you" and move on, but in my head I'm definitely rolling my eyes. It doesn't help that overall religion is a net negative from what I can tell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 "We've done all we can do." That's all a doctor needs to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 I say god help me all the fucking time doesn't mean shit but the implication. Language is drenched in history, you can't take that away. Unless you want to pave the way for a completely concrete dialect, like math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 33 minutes ago, unogueen said: I say god help me all the fucking time doesn't mean shit but the implication. Language is drenched in history, you can't take that away. Unless you want to pave the way for a completely concrete dialect, like math. @Commissar SFLUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 8 hours ago, unogueen said: I say god help me all the fucking time doesn't mean shit but the implication. Language is drenched in history, you can't take that away. Unless you want to pave the way for a completely concrete dialect, like math. As long as there can be sarcastic math I'm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Ominous said: As long as there can be sarcastic math I'm down. One PLUS one IS TWO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 SCOTUS stays the entire order https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/14/politics/supreme-court-abortion-drug/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, sblfilms said: SCOTUS stays the entire order https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/14/politics/supreme-court-abortion-drug/index.html Pretty bad when scotus are the adults here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 56 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Pretty bad when scotus are the adults here When Alito is "centrist" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Me reading this topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Supreme Court protects access to abortion pill | CNN Politics WWW.CNN.COM The Supreme Court on Friday protected access to a widely used abortion drug by freezing lower-court rulings that placed restrictions on its usage as appeals play out. Doesn’t mean anything in regards to where this all ends up, but interesting what the vote was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 Quote “The case could well come back to the justices once the Fifth Circuit rules, but nothing is going to change with respect to mifepristone access until and unless the court both takes the case on the merits and sides with the challengers,” said Steve Vladeck, CNN Supreme Court analyst and professor at the University of Texas School of Law. “That’s not going to happen for a long time – if ever.” Can’t believe this guy teaches future lawyers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 On 4/13/2023 at 5:44 PM, CastlevaniaNut18 said: It did, thank you. She elected for a bilateral and the surgeon said her lymph nodes looked good, though they’re being send to pathology per routine. She’s going home tomorrow. I’m getting ready to make the drive up to see her. I hope your mom takes it easy on recovery. My mom got the same thing done back in November and decided that she'd shovel snow a few weeks later which had the result of me driving her to the hospital on Christmas night causing her reconstruction procedure to be delayed to... two days ago. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 15 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Can’t believe this guy teaches future lawyers I can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Plaintiffs do not have standing to sue, 9-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Plaintiffs do not have standing to sue, 9-0 Which was a great way for the court to completely sidestep the issue of the FDA regulation...for now. They chose to rule on the case on the lowest-hanging fruit possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I can’t imagine there being someone who has standing for such a case as this, but I said that about the student loan stuff and they made up standing there so here we are 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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