Jason Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 The California Statewide Feather Alert Program was introduced through Assembly Bill 1314 and became law in 2022 by adding Section 8594.13 to the California Government Code. A Feather Alert is a resource available to law enforcement agencies investigating the suspicious or unexplainable disappearance of an indigenous woman or indigenous person. The Feather Alert will provide immediate information to the public to aid in the swift recovery of missing indigenous persons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 uhhh ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 gross misuse of Feather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Do they yell and clap their hand over their mouth to make "feather noises" to alert the public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 This is similar to the California Dot alert for when you find a new dope Indian restaurant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I…….. what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 It's not meant to be racist, yet everyone itt is letting out racist things.  The bill was introduced by a native american  Governor signs Ramos bill creating new tool to enlist public’s help in cases of missing Native American people | Assemblymember James C. Ramos A45.ASMDC.ORG SACRAMENTO – Gov. Gavin Newsom today signed AB 1314 which would enlist public assistance when Indigenous people are missing under suspicious circumstances. The California Highway Patrol would activate the alert at the request of local law enforcement and it work much like an Amber Alert. AB 1314 was authored by Assemblymember James C. Ramos (D-Highland) and was one of a five-bill tribal...  Also, this issue is apparently bigger than most people realize. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: It's not meant to be racist, yet everyone itt is letting out racist things.  The bill was introduced by a native american  Governor signs Ramos bill creating new tool to enlist public’s help in cases of missing Native American people | Assemblymember James C. Ramos A45.ASMDC.ORG SACRAMENTO – Gov. Gavin Newsom today signed AB 1314 which would enlist public assistance when Indigenous people are missing under suspicious circumstances. The California Highway Patrol would activate the alert at the request of local law enforcement and it work much like an Amber Alert. AB 1314 was authored by Assemblymember James C. Ramos (D-Highland) and was one of a five-bill tribal...  Also, this issue is apparently bigger than most people realize.   Terrible name for a terrible problem. I think this is under reported in "mainstream" media, but if you listen to public radio you will likely have known this has been a problem for a long while know. Even the newest Dexter season highlighted how missing Native Americans is a big problem...that's rather mainstream I think.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Me reading this thread and all the responses.  2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Hold on contacting my senator to yell about how we need an ALL Americans alert 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 hours ago, Ominous said: Even the newest Dexter season highlighted how missing Native Americans is a big problem...that's rather mainstream I think. Â Indeed - Wind River made it a significant plot point. But I don't think mainstream sheep are too aware still. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I’ve never looked in to it, but do Amber/Silver/etc. alerts increase recovery rates for the affected populations over cases where alerts aren’t issued? I feel like most of the time I’m out in public and everybody gets an alert, I mostly see people silence them and move on with their day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I’ve never looked in to it, but do Amber/Silver/etc. alerts increase recovery rates for the affected populations over cases where alerts aren’t issued? I feel like most of the time I’m out in public and everybody gets an alert, I mostly see people silence them and move on with their day. Good question. But I read every single alert I get, so I know at least someone else has to.  https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article263923731.html  I think if you notice it's near you and you're outside, you're like 500x more likely to at least look around, which is all it really takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 Sending them out at 3 AM probably gets people to find out how to disable them on their phones though. Â Amber alert wakes thousands of New Yorkers at 3:51 a.m. Wednesday morning, sparking debate about emergency system WWW.NYDAILYNEWS.COM Thousands of New Yorkers were awoken early Wednesday morning when their cell phones began blaring because of an amber alert notifying them of a missing child. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Still better than Canada 🇨🇦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, TUFKAK said: Still better than Canada 🇨🇦  What do they have there? Hoser Alert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Jason said: Sending them out at 3 AM probably gets people to find out how to disable them on their phones though. Â Amber alert wakes thousands of New Yorkers at 3:51 a.m. Wednesday morning, sparking debate about emergency system WWW.NYDAILYNEWS.COM Thousands of New Yorkers were awoken early Wednesday morning when their cell phones began blaring because of an amber alert notifying them of a missing child. Â Would be kind of a buttfucking stupid system if it didn't issue an emergency alert until people were awake. Can you imagine explaining to a parent that their missing child alert won't be sent out until 10am because it was really inconvenient of their kid to get kidnapped at 4. Minutes can literally make the difference between life or death here. Boohoo, you got woken up for 20 seconds, how will you ever fuckin' recover? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: Would be kind of a buttfucking stupid system if it didn't issue an emergency alert until people were awake. Can you imagine explaining to a parent that their missing child alert won't be sent out until 10am because it was really inconvenient of their kid to get kidnapped at 4. Minutes can literally make the difference between life or death here. Boohoo, you got woken up for 20 seconds, how will you ever fuckin' recover? Â What does sending the alert at 3 AM do? Are people going to get out of bed and go down at 3 in the morning to go look around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUFKAK Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Jason said: Â What does sending the alert at 3 AM do? Are people going to get out of bed and go down at 3 in the morning to go look around? Uh, not every human being is sleeping at night? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jason said: Â What does sending the alert at 3 AM do? Are people going to get out of bed and go down at 3 in the morning to go look around? Maybe alert the people already up and out to be vigilant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I thought ny was the city that never sleeps what’s the problem with shit going off at 3? IT’S NEW YORK BABY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, Jason said: What does sending the alert at 3 AM do? Are people going to get out of bed and go down at 3 in the morning to go look around? I... what? I don't- huh?? Do... do you actually think the whole world just goes to sleep at the same time? I've gotten Amber Alerts while walking around outside late at night. If anything, I bet the fact that there's less people around makes it a lot easier for those who are up to spot something fishy going on, including just looking out their damn window if they live near the area in the alert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, Jason said: Â What does sending the alert at 3 AM do? Are people going to get out of bed and go down at 3 in the morning to go look around? Â I get the spirit of what you're saying but I think Xbob is in the right here. Better to alert the people who are up and about while possibly waking up everybody else too. I think it makes it more likely for the person to be spotted, actually. Fewer people out means whatever you're looking for is going to stick out more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 these are based on county right? i dont think ive ever gotten one at 3a not that that should matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 49 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I thought ny was the city that never sleeps what’s the problem with shit going off at 3? IT’S NEW YORK BABY NY absolutely sleeps. The City that never sleeps was an advertisement from Citibank when they introduced the ATM, it never sleeps and they are Citi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: NY absolutely sleeps. The City that never sleeps was an advertisement from Citibank when they introduced the ATM, it never sleeps and they are Citi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 it's not racist they just vanish in a poof of feathers like woah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 If there was a car involved in the missing person case, is there a DOT Alert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 12:44 PM, Jason said:  What does sending the alert at 3 AM do? Are people going to get out of bed and go down at 3 in the morning to go look around? I silence my phone, so even amber alerts don’t make noise. I do have exceptions set on my phone for a few family members if they call so I hear the ringer regardless. Because if they’re calling at 3am it probably is an emergency.  but it’s not hard to go to sleep without being disturbed by your phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 If someone is turning their Amber Alerts off because they happen late at night then they probably aren’t paying attention to them during the hours they are awake, either. Designing process/policy around worse-use case is kind of dumb given the criticality of this issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Sounds like Jason just feels guilty for being annoyed by them and turning them off lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris- said: Sounds like Jason just feels guilty for being annoyed by them and turning them off lol Hit dog hollers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unogueen Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/4/2023 at 11:34 AM, Anathema- said: it's not racist they just vanish in a poof of feathers like woah This is where mixing 'mythology' with society goes wrong. Gotta make the case for native lives before people give a shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 hours ago, unogueen said: This is where mixing 'mythology' with society goes wrong. Gotta make the case for native lives before people give a shit. Â or maybe it's where things go right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 11:18 AM, Greatoneshere said:  Indeed - Wind River made it a significant plot point. But I don't think mainstream sheep are too aware still.  Honestly did not have a clue that this was a thing until watching Taylor Sheridan's 'Wind River' and WOW talk about gut wrenching! Truly horrific that it is so commonplace & life can be so just disregarded because you happen to be Native, it's awful & I am glad to see legislation like this get pushed through, let's hope for a more national line of help going forward.  On 1/3/2023 at 11:39 AM, sblfilms said: I’ve never looked in to it, but do Amber/Silver/etc. alerts increase recovery rates for the affected populations over cases where alerts aren’t issued? I feel like most of the time I’m out in public and everybody gets an alert, I mostly see people silence them and move on with their day.  Essentially today's version of a car alarm in a packed mall lot in the 90's & early 00's.  On 1/3/2023 at 1:45 PM, TUFKAK said: Uh, not every human being is sleeping at night?  Perpetual night owl here! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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