CitizenVectron Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Brittney Griner released by Russia in 1-for-1 prisoner swap for arms dealer Viktor Bout, U.S. official says WWW.CBSNEWS.COM Griner was detained by Russia in February and sentenced to nine years in prison for having vape cartridges with cannabis oil. Good news for Griner and her family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Same time, man. I don't know you. Same time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Does she want to return to America though? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucoe Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Does she want to return to America though? When you're in a Russian prison, you'd probably be overjoyed to return to North Korea as long as it's not to another prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Does she want to return to America though? She was in Russia to play basketball because the WNBA pays peanuts to even their biggest stars. What a fucking braindead comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Do you think she'll smoke weed when she gets home or do you think she was "scared straight" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Keyser_Soze said: Do you think she'll smoke weed when she gets home or do you think she was "scared straight" I’d be rolling a fattie in the airport parking lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 I’m glad the U.S. gets our people, even if this was a “bad” trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nublood Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I’m glad the U.S. gets our people, even if this was a “bad” trade A guy who supplied weapons to the Taliban and Al Qaeda for a freakin basketball player? Yea, it was a bad trade. But at least we got our basketball player back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 It doesn't feel good to release a person with the title "Merchant of Death" but I'm glad she is headed home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, CayceG said: She was in Russia to play basketball because the WNBA pays peanuts to even their biggest stars. What a fucking braindead comment. Can WNBA teams afford to pay their players as much as their male NBA counterparts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, nublood said: A guy who supplied weapons to the Taliban and Al Qaeda for a freakin basketball player? Yea, it was a bad trade. But at least we got our basketball player back. I have a hard time passing value judgment like this because if I was stuck in a Russian prison the idea that I wasn't "important" enough to be traded for another prisoner would cause me endless despair. I mean, I get it, but still. 5 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: It doesn't feel good to release a person with the title "Merchant of Death" but I'm glad she is headed home! Holy hell she must be fucking insane at 3-pointers to get a title like that. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nublood Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Xbob42 said: I have a hard time passing value judgment like this because if I was stuck in a Russian prison the idea that I wasn't "important" enough to be traded for another prisoner would cause me endless despair. I mean, I get it, but still. Fair enough. But had that been you or me, we'd still be sitting there in endless despair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, nublood said: A guy who supplied weapons to the Taliban and Al Qaeda for a freakin basketball player? Yea, it was a bad trade. But at least we got our basketball player back. Honestly it shouldn’t even matter. The US should try and get back its people in every circumstance regardless of “value” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, nublood said: Fair enough. But had that been you or me, we'd still be sitting there in endless despair. Not me, I got Hunter's dick pics! 1 minute ago, Uaarkson said: Honestly it shouldn’t even matter. The US should try and get back its people in every circumstance regardless of “value” Yeah, this is more specifically what I meant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLeon Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Bridge of Spies 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: Honestly it shouldn’t even matter. The US should try and get back its people in every circumstance regardless of “value” I agree, but if they had to release an arms dealer for Griner, I can't even imagine who we'll have to release to get the marine back. If that is even an option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Yeah this trade potentially gives Russia more leverage for future prisoner swaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, mclumber1 said: Can WNBA teams afford to pay their players as much as their male NBA counterparts? They can afford to pay enough so that their star player doesn't have to be in this situation again. Quote Why Griner was in Russia in the first place is a question that the WNBA will have to answer. The league’s low salaries and minimal efforts towards player support have for years forced even its biggest stars to treat their time in the WNBA as a part-time job. The maximum WNBA salary in 2022 was just over $228,000, and players can make far more than that playing in leagues overseas. In 2015, Diana Taurasi was paid $1.5 million to skip the WNBA season entirely and play for UMMC Ekaterinburg, and Liz Cambage recently revealed that she has made “five to eight times” as much money playing overseas than she has in the WNBA. The WNBA and the players recently signed a new CBA which contained some improvements meant to reduce the need for players to spend their offseasons playing outside the U.S., but the larger structures that got the league to this point remain in place. As Cambage has wisely pointed out, it’s absurd for the league to be set up in such a way that a prized head coach like Becky Hammon can sign a $1 million contract while the salaries of the best players in the league are artificially capped at less than a quarter of that amount. It is equally absurd when the league responds to a billionaire team owner springing for charter flights in order to keep his players happy by fining that owner $500,000 and threatening to terminate his franchise. Brittney Griner Should Have Never Been In This Situation | Defector DEFECTOR.COM The New York Times reported yesterday that WNBA star Brittney Griner, who was playing for UMMC Ekaterinburg in Russia during the WNBA offseason, has been detained by Russian authorities on drug charges. The Times report followed a statement from the Russian Federal Customs Service, which said that an American basketball player had been detained after […] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar189 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, mclumber1 said: Yeah this trade potentially gives Russia more leverage for future prisoner swaps. Seems like something Russia could easily take advantage of and lie about. Any American with significance comes through their airport, "Oh look you magically have weed vape cartridges in your bag, you're going to jail until we can work out a trade". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 2 hours ago, CayceG said: They can afford to pay enough so that their star player doesn't have to be in this situation again. Brittney Griner Should Have Never Been In This Situation | Defector DEFECTOR.COM The New York Times reported yesterday that WNBA star Brittney Griner, who was playing for UMMC Ekaterinburg in Russia during the WNBA offseason, has been detained by Russian authorities on drug charges. The Times report followed a statement from the Russian Federal... I realize that this isn't the issue so don't @ me, bro , but I'd be totally fine playing basketball for $228,000/year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 The average WNBA team is worth maybe 30 million dollars. The least valuable teams are probably worth 15ish million. There likely is no NBA team worth less than 1.2-1.3 billion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzzzle Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 NBA players make what they make through collective bargaining. The players get 50% (or 52% or whatever it is now) of the league's estimated revenue, which then becomes the salary cap. The NBA made $8.8 billion in the last pre-COVID season. The WNBA made $50 million. That's why WNBA players play overseas during the offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 4 hours ago, nublood said: A guy who supplied weapons to the Taliban and Al Qaeda for a freakin basketball player? Yea, it was a bad trade. But at least we got our basketball player back. Do you have a spreadsheet of Wins Above Replacement for prisoners? Can I see it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0101 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Joe said: Do you have a spreadsheet of Wins Above Replacement for prisoners? Can I see it? A WAR reference for someone who deals in War. I appreciate this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Joe said: Do you have a spreadsheet of Wins Above Replacement for prisoners? Can I see it? Give me a couple of days. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 5 hours ago, nublood said: Fair enough. But had that been you or me, we'd still be sitting there in endless despair. True. There are Americans sitting in Russian prisons for dumb shit and have been for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Trevor Reed is a nobody and got prisoner swapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarSolo Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Let’s be real, Viktor Bout will probably commit suicide in a month by stabbing himself in the back with a knife… multiple times after ingesting some poisoned vodka. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Viktor Bout sounds exactly like the mix of a Bond villain meets Metal Gear Solid character. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 I don’t understand the level of hatred this woman gets. Every time I see an article about her, the comments are horrific. Im glad she’s out of that hellhole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: I don’t understand the level of hatred this woman gets. Every time I see an article about her, the comments are horrific. She's a woman and a black woman and elite athlete. I can see many reasons people would make horrific comments about her. People are shitty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: She's a woman and a black woman and elite athlete. I can see many reasons people would make horrific comments about her. People are shitty. It’s just fucking gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 19 hours ago, nublood said: A guy who supplied weapons to the Taliban and Al Qaeda for a freakin basketball player? Yea, it was a bad trade. But at least we got our basketball player back. All of these trades will be bad because we don't kidnap people and they wouldn't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 14 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: She's a woman and a black woman and elite athlete. I can see many reasons people would make horrific comments about her. People are shitty. Shes also gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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