mclumber1 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 B-21 Raider WWW.NORTHROPGRUMMAN.COM B-21 Raider, the future of long-range strike, will be capable of penetrating the toughest defenses to deliver precision strikes anywhere in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The B-21 Raider is nothing short of a "Military Procurement Miracle" in that it came in on time and under budget: The B-21 Raider Stealth Bomber On Time And Under Budget Has Russia Sweating WWW.19FORTYFIVE.COM B-21 Raider Is An Investment in America’s Future: Developing a new military aircraft rarely comes cheap, but all things considered, the Northrop Grumman B-21 Raider will be worth every penny. The long-range, heavy strategic bomber that is set to enter service by the end of the decade was designed to serve as a dual-capable penetrating […] 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 It’s weird to me seeing that kind of hype poster for something designed to kill people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, stepee said: It’s weird to me seeing that kind of hype poster for something designed to kill people. I can only imagine what the accompanying Northrup Grumman promotional video will be like! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: The B-21 Raider is nothing short of a "Military Procurement Miracle" in that it came in on time and under budget: You call it a miracle, I call it "Northrup Grumman board of directors replacing the CEO for not grifting hard enough." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I'm not gonna lie, I'm super excited to see this. Rumor has it, it's smaller than the B-2, which is already pretty tiny for a bomber. That said, the B-52 will probably outlast even the B-21 in service life 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, CayceG said: Rumor has it, it's smaller than the B-2, which is already pretty tiny for a bomber. There's no rumor about that - it's been long-confirmed that it's smaller than the B-2. B-2 wingspan: 172 feet B-21 wingspan: <150 feet B=2 payload: 60,000 lbs B-21 payload: >30,000 lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, CayceG said: I'm not gonna lie, I'm super excited to see this. Rumor has it, it's smaller than the B-2, which is already pretty tiny for a bomber. That said, the B-52 will probably outlast even the B-21 in service life I want to see what a non-stealth heavy bomber in 2022 would look like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Zaku3 said: I want to see what a non-stealth heavy bomber in 2022 would look like. 6 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Its just a smaller B-2, its basically lets just make something with what we have and know how to do already and make more of them, which is smart after the LCS, Zumwalt, Ford Class Carriers, and F-35 fiascos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Knowing that they only ever made 21 B-2s, my first question was why the Air Force was asking for 100 of these, but I didn't realize that the 21s are planned to replace the B-2, B-52, and the B-1s. I don't love spending tons of money on the military, but if you're going to, replacing airplanes designed in the 40s and 50s is probably a good place to do it. Only question is how long it will actually take them to replace the 52s. They're currently expected to be in service until at least 2042, which would make it an even 90 years from first flight. Think they can make it to 95? 100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Is there any reason not to make this a drone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 What if... it is actually NGAD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Air_Delivery said: Is there any reason not to make this a drone? Electronic Warfare can make a drone blind deaf and dumb, it's something that hasn't appeared really in the Ukraine war yet. Plus is a general war your satellites are probably gone anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Holy shit this reveal is starting with a singing of the national anthem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Oh god am I actually watching this on a Friday night, what has my life become 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, elbobo said: Holy shit this reveal is starting with a singing of the national anthem Freedom. Edit: lol one should do a fly over of the stadium US v Netherlands is held in. Or even more America just do it over a NFL game on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Yep looks like stealth bomber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, elbobo said: Yep looks like stealth bomber I'm convinced that someone at NG originally called it the "B-2.1" and out of that it became the "B-21". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, elbobo said: Yep looks like stealth bomber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I'm convinced that someone at NG originally called it the "B-2.1" and out of that it became the "B-21". I guess if you have a shape that is super effective for stealth you kind of need to keep using it. Laws of physics are the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 Pretty lame live stream to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 1 minute ago, mclumber1 said: Pretty lame live stream to be honest. Also how mad is the Air Force they couldn't speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayceG Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I hate it. Ugly as shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 18 hours ago, stepee said: It’s weird to me seeing that kind of hype poster for something designed to kill people. It will be for stealth humanitarian supply drops only. No killing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: It will be for stealth humanitarian supply drops only. No killing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 When reading about it, it seems that the main differences between it and the B-2 other than size are the details. Coating, electronic systems etc. Any reason why they couldn't have just upgraded the B-2 like they have been doing with the F-15 over the years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: When reading about it, it seems that the main differences between it and the B-2 other than size are the details. Coating, electronic systems etc. Any reason why they couldn't have just upgraded the B-2 like they have been doing with the F-15 over the years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 12/2/2022 at 3:21 PM, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I can only imagine what the accompanying Northrup Grumman promotional video will be like! Similar in tone to this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaladinSolo Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 20 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: When reading about it, it seems that the main differences between it and the B-2 other than size are the details. Coating, electronic systems etc. Any reason why they couldn't have just upgraded the B-2 like they have been doing with the F-15 over the years? Its a 1/4 of the cost of a B-2 in 1997 dollars so it would probably cost even more to make a new B-2 today, and is replacing like the entirety of our bomber fleet not just the B-2, so they need to be more expendable if not at least more numerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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