Jason Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: So is this really any different than what Sony or MS do? I'm legit asking, because I don't pay for any online service, so I'm not familiar with the intricacies. From the article, the retention policy for cloud saves is a rather big difference if they're actually going to delete your cloud saves the moment you stop paying: Quote Nintendo differs from its console competitors in how it handles online save data. Cloud saves on PlayStation systems remain accessible for six months after you cancel a paid PlayStation Plus account. Cloud saves are offered for free in perpetuity on Xbox Live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: So is this really any different than what Sony or MS do? I'm legit asking, because I don't pay for any online service, so I'm not familiar with the intricacies. 23 minutes ago, Jason said: From the article, the retention policy for cloud saves is a rather big difference if they're actually going to delete your cloud saves the moment you stop paying: And, you know, you can back up your saves for free on the other consoles. Xbox is cloud only, but free. While on the PS4 you can back up saves to a USB stick or pay for the cloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 It's more easily to get fucked out of your saves with Nintendo's system. I regularly backup my saves locally on my PS4 and XB1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 So what if you want to pay for the online, but don't want to use the cloud save? Can you opt out and only save locally? It would be pretty shit of Nintendo if, in exchange for paying for their service, they hold your game saves hostage. Does that count as extortion? EDIT: As in, if you pay for their service once, you're locked in and have to continue paying for it unless you want to lose that entire period's worth of game progress? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, XxEvil AshxX said: So what if you want to pay for the online, but don't want to use the cloud save? Can you opt out and only save locally? It would be pretty shit of Nintendo if, in exchange for paying for their service, they hold your game saves hostage. Does that count as extortion? EDIT: As in, if you pay for their service once, you're locked in and have to continue paying for it unless you want to lose that entire period's worth of game progress? Uh, you still have console saves. You never lose local saves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, XxEvil AshxX said: So what if you want to pay for the online, but don't want to use the cloud save? Can you opt out and only save locally? It would be pretty shit of Nintendo if, in exchange for paying for their service, they hold your game saves hostage. Does that count as extortion? EDIT: As in, if you pay for their service once, you're locked in and have to continue paying for it unless you want to lose that entire period's worth of game progress? My guess is they won’t mess that part up, but I’ve been wrong before! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Dre801 said: It's more easily to get fucked out of your saves with Nintendo's system. Which is doubly unacceptable when you consider that due to designing the system for portability, something is way more likely to happen to your Switch (lose it, drop it, whatever) than with an Xbone or PS4, which for most people aren't going to move after being plugged in. 3 hours ago, Bacon said: Uh, you still have console saves. You never lose local saves. Unless something happens to the device itself and you weren't paying for the online service at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jason said: Unless something happens to the device itself and you weren't paying for the online service at the time. I mean, that is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Bacon said: I mean, that is obvious. And is a big deal given that both Sony and Microsoft give you a way to deal with that without paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jason said: And is a big deal given that both Sony and Microsoft give you a way to deal with that without paying. Yes, as I have said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stickey Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 11 hours ago, crispy4000 said: ... Are you trying to compare this to the lead up to the Xbox One's launch? Locking out a subscription library of NES games after a week of no internet is very different than always-online DRM'ing the whole console, retail disks included. It's pretty much the same thing. Are you suggesting that when you buy the retail disc you DO get to keep your saves? Probably not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 The check-in for fucking decades-old NES games just clicked with me. BETTER MAKE SURE NO ONE IS ABLE TO GET THESE HOT RELEASES FOR TOO LONG WITHOUT TOUCHING HOME WITH MOTHER BASE. Jesus, it just seems pathetic. I get why they're doing it, but it doesn't make it seem any less stupid. What a waste of resources. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Sometimes I feel the best way to play old games from the 80's and 90's is on PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 20 hours ago, Stickey said: When Microsoft announce something similar the pitchforks were out. Now that Nintendo does it, it's a resounding "aww man". expectations were almost nonexistent when it came Nintendo doing anything even remotely correct with their online service...so yes, it comes as a shock to no one that they would screw up something that the other console makers have tested and refined for a decade+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Stickey said: It's pretty much the same thing. Are you suggesting that when you buy the retail disc you DO get to keep your saves? Probably not! That save data is still stored locally. So yes? ...Sounds like you need a refresher on the whole Microsoft thing. A burn against what Microsoft initially proposed. Let me know when you're no longer able to play a physical copy of Mario Kart 8 on a friend's Switch. With Nintendo, you'll have to subscribe to their online walled-garden paywall to access your saves on another Switch. That's still bullshit, layered on top of the bullshit that these services represent for every console now. But hey, at it least it isn't always-online DRM that renders physical copies completely obsolete. Clearly, things could be much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewDean84 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 12 hours ago, crispy4000 said: That save data is still stored locally. So yes?...Sounds like you need a refresher on the whole Microsoft thing. A burn against what Microsoft initially proposed. Let me know when you're no longer able to play a physical copy of Mario Kart 8 on a friend's Switch. With Nintendo, you'll have to subscribe to their online walled-garden paywall to access your saves on another Switch. That's still bullshit, layered on top of the bullshit that these services represent for every console now. But hey, at it least it isn't always-online DRM that renders physical copies completely obsolete. Clearly, things could be much worse. Remind Sony to enable cross play with other consoles while you're at it. Seems like it's as simple as flipping a switch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, AndrewDean84 said: Remind Sony to enable cross play with other consoles while you're at it. Seems like it's as simple as flipping a switch. That is some shit too, especially when they're the holdover. Know what else would be as easy as flipping a switch? Making XBL online play as free on consoles as it is on PC. All three of the console manufactures are duping us. I'm ready for Microsoft to nix XBLG fees and keep Games Pass as their only subscription. It'd make up for all their past sins in my book, and throw egg on Sony and Nintendo's faces. It would be great! ... Though admittedly, I'm still wary about what Games Pass may inspire other big publishers to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dre801 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Game Pass is all I pay for currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/16/2018 at 3:13 AM, Xbob42 said: The check-in for fucking decades-old NES games just clicked with me. BETTER MAKE SURE NO ONE IS ABLE TO GET THESE HOT RELEASES FOR TOO LONG WITHOUT TOUCHING HOME WITH MOTHER BASE. Jesus, it just seems pathetic. I get why they're doing it, but it doesn't make it seem any less stupid. What a waste of resources. You gotta pay daddy if you want a legit copy of NES Solomon’s Key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Dre801 said: Game Pass is all I pay for currently. PC gamer, or are you only in it for offline modes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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