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2 hours ago, johnny said:

i think the US strategy so far has been really good but i think we lack the talent to be successful

 

That's what I was thinking. They're aggressive, getting in place, passing the ball and then... It doesn't get there.

 

1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

HOW was this allowed to happen as easily as it seemingly did?!?!?

 

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I think it's a product of what comet has been talking about. Weak strikers will breed weak striking defense.

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Nah I'm gonna disagree with you all talking about the tactics and strategy. LVG totally made Berhalter look like a pedestrian. They knew their midfield couldn't keep pace with the likes of McKennie and Musah so what do they do? They let the US take possession and force the US to beat them via ball handing and passing. Guess what the US isn't great at? And as soon as those inevitable turn over happens you see De Jong and co. just apply pressure right down the middle of the US. Over... and over... again. Their game plan was perfect. 

This isn't just the US not having the same caliber of player as other Euro nations, it's the coaching too. 

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5 minutes ago, Comet said:

Nah I'm gonna disagree with you all talking about the tactics and strategy. LVG totally made Berhalter look like a pedestrian. They knew their midfield couldn't keep pace with the likes of McKennie and Musah so what do they do? They let the US take possession and force the US to beat them via ball handing and passing. Guess what the US isn't great at? And as soon as those inevitable turn over happens you see De Jong and co. just apply pressure right down the middle of the US. Over... and over... again. Their game plan was perfect. 

This isn't just the US not having the same caliber of player as other Euro nations, it's the coaching too. 

 

Ya I think it was a strench on my part to hope we could beat a LvG team.

 

I'm amazed that he changed his style for that. I was expecting his usual possession based football but giving us the ball and letting us fail was/is genius.

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1 minute ago, Zaku3 said:

 

Ya I think it was a strench on my part to hope we could beat a LvG team.

 

I'm amazed that he changed his style for that. I was expecting his usual possession based football but giving us the ball and letting us fail was/is genius.

Absolutely a genius move and I just sat there within the first 15 minutes and knowing that was it. US has hit a wall they won't be able to play themselves out of. Credit to Gregg though for trying to change it up with Gio, Aaronson and Yedlin since they're all really good at dribbling at opposition. LVG is coaching his heart out. 

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p.s. all that said, given where this team was 4 years ago and seeing them fight this well and possess so much European style of playing all while being the youngest US team ever at a WC - Fucking love it. Now just have to find a few good 9's for 2026. 

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29 minutes ago, Comet said:

Nah I'm gonna disagree with you all talking about the tactics and strategy. LVG totally made Berhalter look like a pedestrian. They knew their midfield couldn't keep pace with the likes of McKennie and Musah so what do they do? They let the US take possession and force the US to beat them via ball handing and passing. Guess what the US isn't great at? And as soon as those inevitable turn over happens you see De Jong and co. just apply pressure right down the middle of the US. Over... and over... again. Their game plan was perfect. 

This isn't just the US not having the same caliber of player as other Euro nations, it's the coaching too. 

what do you propose they should have done? i think we tried to play to our strengths but the talent isn’t there against a very good opponent 

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5 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

I’m really liking World Cup being in the winter. Let’s do this again but in like South America somewhere

As a fan of club football, please never again. We're going to run into a plethora of injuries after this. 

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6 minutes ago, GeneticBlueprint said:

I’m really liking World Cup being in the winter. Let’s do this again but in like South America somewhere


There’s been a fun novelty to it but ultimately it has to move back to the summer; it fucks with domestic schedules, and there are so many other sports in season that it steals some of the attention from the tournament (whole days worth of matches relegated to cable networks because of the NFL). 

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1 minute ago, johnny said:

what do you propose they should have done? i think we tried to play to our strengths but the talent isn’t there against a very good opponent 

Speed and physicality is the strength the Americans had over the Dutch. The Dutch let the US keep possession since it slowed down the game and forced them to have to pass their way through that stout defense. The answer was making those dangerous runs on the right wing. Dest discovered this but it wasn't leaned into enough. Berhalter did see this which is why he went with the 3 subs of Aaronson, Gio and Yedlin since they're as good as it gets for this team in terms of making those runs. This is why you saw a bit more effective attack in the second half. If Gregg came out from the start with that lineup I think the US would have stood a better chance - but to your point, the gap in talent is still there and the Dutch likely would have still won. But it would have frazzled them a bit more. It was a mental game and the Dutch were chill as a cucumber. When you get rattled, shit starts to happen. 

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43 minutes ago, Comet said:

Nah I'm gonna disagree with you all talking about the tactics and strategy. LVG totally made Berhalter look like a pedestrian. They knew their midfield couldn't keep pace with the likes of McKennie and Musah so what do they do? They let the US take possession and force the US to beat them via ball handing and passing. Guess what the US isn't great at? And as soon as those inevitable turn over happens you see De Jong and co. just apply pressure right down the middle of the US. Over... and over... again. Their game plan was perfect. 

This isn't just the US not having the same caliber of player as other Euro nations, it's the coaching too. 

 

can we be new best friends 

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