Brian Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I might give Nioh 2 a shot if it’s actually the ps5 version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 The only reason I'm okay with God of War Ragnarok not being day and date is because if it was, I would be tempted to play it on my PotatoStation 4. At least by the time I manage to get a PS5, most of these new games should be coming to their service. I might give Nioh 2 a try, but I haven't even played Nioh yet. I seriously have no desire to play my PS4 anymore. Especially since I got my Series X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, XxEvil AshxX said: The only reason I'm okay with God of War Ragnarok not being day and date is because if it was, I would be tempted to play it on my PotatoStation 4. At least by the time I manage to get a PS5, most of these new games should be coming to their service. i really don’t think sony should be held to the same standard as microsoft with throwing everything on game pass. what microsoft is able to do is not always what sony feels they can realistically do and turn a good profit. sure it would be nice, but i don’t think it’s that big of a deal paying 70 dollars for their flagship first party games that everybody wants to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 51 minutes ago, johnny said: I really don’t think sony should be held to the same standard as microsoft If they're going to have and push a competing service they probably should. That being said, this is the essentials line-up: the "free" monthly games from OG PS+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, XxEvil AshxX said: The only reason I'm okay with God of War Ragnarok not being day and date is because if it was, I would be tempted to play it on my PotatoStation 4. At least by the time I manage to get a PS5, most of these new games should be coming to their service. I might give Nioh 2 a try, but I haven't even played Nioh yet. I seriously have no desire to play my PS4 anymore. Especially since I got my Series X. It's just not going to happen. It's doubtful Sony can afford to give away games day and date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: If they're going to have and push a competing service they probably should. If they were priced similarly, sure. As it stands, Sony thinks not having first party stuff day 1 translates to a $60-80 cheaper service annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 hour ago, johnny said: i really don’t think sony should be held to the same standard as microsoft with throwing everything on game pass. what microsoft is able to do is not always what sony feels they can realistically do and turn a good profit. sure it would be nice, but i don’t think it’s that big of a deal paying 70 dollars for their flagship first party games that everybody wants to play. 30 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: If they're going to have and push a competing service they probably should. And beyond that, what Ash is describing isn't even Microsoft's standard. He's saying at some point down the line Ragnarock will come to their game pass, and maybe it will but bringing out first party games 1 or 2 years after they release isn't Microsoft standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: If they were priced similarly, sure. As it stands, Sony thinks not having first party stuff day 1 translates to a $60-80 cheaper service annually. Game Pass console-only is $120/year at MSRP and constantly goes on sale (I got two years of Ultimate for about $150 just last year, if I got Xbox or PC only it would've been even cheaper) PS Plus Extra is $99/year PS Plus Premium is $120/year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: And beyond that, what Ash is describing isn't even Microsoft's standard. He's saying at some point down the line Ragnarock will come to their game pass, and maybe it will but bringing out first party games 1 or 2 years after they release isn't Microsoft standard. I thought his point was that he doesn't want to play it on PS4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Game Pass console-only is $120/year at MSRP and constantly goes on sale (I got two years of Ultimate for about $150 just last year, if I got Xbox or PC only it would've been even cheaper) PS Plus Extra is $99/year PS Plus Premium is $120/year You're selectively leaving out Gold. Apples to apples, console to console comparisons should include online gaming fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: You're selectively leaving out Gold. Apples to apples, console to console comparisons should include online gaming fees. What? If you have game pass gold is included. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: What? If you have game pass gold is included. Only with Ultimate. Quote Can I play multiplayer games with Games Pass? Depending on the game, yes—though for multiplayer you need either Xbox Game Pass Ultimate or a subscription to Xbox Live Gold (sold separately). Xbox Support SUPPORT.XBOX.COM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just now, crispy4000 said: Only with Ultimate. So, are you selectively leaving out EA Play? I mean, apples to apples or whatever, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I thought his point was that he doesn't want to play it on PS4. Part of the reason yeah. He's glad it's not day and date because he doesn't want to play it on his PS4 By the time he gets a PS5 (Which won't be next month) he's assuming it will be on the PS+ service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: So, are you selectively leaving out EA Play? I mean, apples to apples or whatever, right? That's part of a larger library comparison discussion. Sony counteracted with Ubisoft+ Classics, but got the worse end of the bargain there IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just now, crispy4000 said: That's part of a larger library comparison discussion on what's worth the money. Sony counteracted with Ubisoft+ Classics, but got the worse end of the bargain there IMO. Ah, so we're selectively ignoring the $100/year cost of EA Play, then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just now, Spork3245 said: Ah, so we're selectively ignoring the $100/year cost of EA Play, then? EA Play Pro - the $100/year tier - isn't available through Games Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: EA Play Pro - the $100/year tier - isn't available through Games Pass. Oh, so we're ignoring $30/year? Interesting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 this argument lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Oh, so we're ignoring $50/year? Interesting... First off... holy shifting goal posts! Second, EA Play is $30 a year, not $50. Lastly, there is no Ubisoft+ Classics tier sold indepdently, so a direct comparison isn't really possible. Even though I've already told you I think Games Pass subscribers get the better deal with EA by comparison. So why continue down this rabbit hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Just now, crispy4000 said: First off... holy shifting goal posts! 42 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: If they were priced similarly, sure. As it stands, Sony thinks not having first party stuff day 1 translates to a $60-80 cheaper service annually. How much does a Sony game cost at launch vs an MSFT game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 You’re reaching, I’m done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 25, 2022 Author Share Posted October 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, stepee said: this argument lol Didn’t see in the patch notes that DLSS 3.0 turns the crazy to 100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: You’re reaching, I’m done. Nah, I'm trolling. You're contradicting things for the sole sake of contradicting things (per every thread). Get a hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 I don't see anything wrong with fact checking when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: I don't see anything wrong with fact checking when needed. 1 hour ago, Spork3245 said: If they're going to have and push a competing service they probably should. That being said, this is the essentials line-up: the "free" monthly games from OG PS+ 1 hour ago, crispy4000 said: If they were priced similarly, sure. As it stands, Sony thinks not having first party stuff day 1 translates to a $60-80 cheaper service annually. What are you "fact checking"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 41 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: What are you "fact checking"? Gold is not included with Games Pass sans Ultimate. The $100/yr EA Play Pro tier is not included with Games Pass. EA Play is not $50 annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Posting in advance for @Bloodporne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: Gold is not included with Games Pass sans Ultimate. The $100/yr EA Play Pro tier is not included with Games Pass. EA Play is not $50 annually. None of that is what I quoted. What are you fact checking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Are you fact checking that Game Pass and PS+ Premium shouldn't be compared because there's a "price difference"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 Nothing more than I've already said. It's pointless to engage you anymore on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: Nothing more than I've already said. It's pointless to engage you anymore on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaseknox Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 3 hours ago, XxEvil AshxX said: The only reason I'm okay with God of War Ragnarok not being day and date is because if it was, I would be tempted to play it on my PotatoStation 4. I think that God of War: Ragnarok is going to look and run pretty good on PS4, the first game did and Ragnarok is using the same engine and a lot of the same assets. 3 hours ago, XxEvil AshxX said: I might give Nioh 2 a try, but I haven't even played Nioh yet. You don’t need to play Nioh to play Nioh 2, because it’s not a sequel with the same character. It’s a new story, and you create your own character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxEvil AshxX Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Spork3245 said: I thought his point was that he doesn't want to play it on PS4. That is correct. If it were day and date on PS Premium, I'd be tempted to. As it stands right now though, I'm perfectly fine with waiting until I get a PS5. By the time I do, Ragnarok, Horizon Forbidden West, and others should be seeing price drops or discount sales, or be on the service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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