Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: They brought some good indies and AA this year. You just described the reason for the bitching on ResetERA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: You just described the reason for the bitching on ResetERA They aren’t trying to act like somehow the Sony show was better are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: You just described the reason for the bitching on ResetERA People just need to realize that Microsoft needed this E3 to break the cycle of smokescreen announcements. The only non-starters this time were the Team Ninja game and Ark 2. Good riddance to the past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Starfield looked pretty cool, but at this point Bethesda has to prove to me they finally hired someone who knows how to design gameplay and someone else who understands exploration needs to be rewarding other than just for the sake of exploration. Diablo looks insane but that’s coming to every platform Redfall likes entirely average and forgettable but it’s Arkane so I assume maybe that was just a bad way of presenting it. The rest of that was pretty trash. solid C By doing zero presentation and therefore having no way of disappointing everyone. Nintendo wins E3 by default. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, stepee said: They aren’t trying to act like somehow the Sony show was better are they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Resetera is definitely a PS/Nintendo centric site. It was inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Resetera is definitely a PS/Nintendo centric site. It was inevitable. The real loser here is Keighly for all these announcements he lost out on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperclyp Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Does Sony have anything else to show in this window or are they kinda done? Sony just seems like they're treading water to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Paperclyp said: Does Sony have anything else to show in this window or are they kinda done? Sony just seems like they're treading water to me. It’s a role reversal this year. Horizon VR, Last of Us Remake, Spider-Man PC was all they brought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Important update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaethos Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I thought the show was decent. What I got out of it was yet another confirmation that 2023 will be amazing and that 2022 is not. Xbox is releasing one new game this year. I guess this is the year of actually catching up on my backlog, because there are only 2 or 3 games coming out the rest of the year that interest me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atom631 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Great showing. I love that all these games are out within 12 months and not 3-5 years. great time to be an Xbox and gamepass owner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, jaethos said: I guess this is the year of actually catching up on my backlog, because there are only 2 or 3 games coming out the rest of the year that interest me. I have no idea what's coming out this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Xbox actually had a show. As much as I want ff16, how the fuck is that gonna be the finale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I have no idea what's coming out this year. Nor do the publishers or developers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Bacon said: Xbox actually had a show. As much as I want ff16, how the fuck is that gonna be the finale? Of a show based exclusively around 3rd party and indies? Pretty obvious choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mercury33 said: Of a show based exclusively around 3rd party and indies? Pretty obvious choice. huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, Bacon said: huh? You asked how FF16 was the finale of Sonys show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 hours ago, crispy4000 said: Important update. So 365 days from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I’ll take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 @stepee @Firewithin Redfall Will Be a Classic Arkane Single-Player Game (Even When You’re Playing in Co-Op) - IGN WWW.IGN.COM Redfall's creators aim for their co-op vampire slaying shooter to be just as great solo as it is with four players. Quote When Arkane Austin announced its vampire-slaying shooter Redfall last year, it was understandable that a portion of its community was a little skeptical. Why were the creators of Prey and Dishonored moving away from meticulous, hand-crafted precision in favour of the messy chaos of co-operative open worlds? A year later I’ve learned that, well, they haven’t. The minds behind Redfall are determined to translate Arkane’s trademark smarts into a game that can be enjoyed by four cooperating players, and that begins with what the studio has always done best: single-player. “We put an inordinate amount of work into making the single-player feel right,” says Harvey Smith, studio director at Arkane Austin. With no desire to make solo and multiplayer separate modes, Smith and his colleagues set about creating a game that worked as a satisfying single-player game just as much as it did a great co-op experience. “It was very important to us that we allow you to play the game alone,” says Smith. “So you can pick your way along very slowly, play at your own pace, observe things at a distance, plan, formulate, harvest resources, do all those things that you probably like doing in an Arkane game.” Of course, whether that's actually the case remains to be seen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: I wish my dad was still around so I could show him Flight Simulator. He would've been so very impressed. My pilot half-brother is in awe of it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: @stepee @Firewithin Redfall Will Be a Classic Arkane Single-Player Game (Even When You’re Playing in Co-Op) - IGN WWW.IGN.COM Redfall's creators aim for their co-op vampire slaying shooter to be just as great solo as it is with four players. Of course, whether that's actually the case remains to be seen! Arkane made rogue-lite fun, they can do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: @stepee @Firewithin Redfall Will Be a Classic Arkane Single-Player Game (Even When You’re Playing in Co-Op) - IGN WWW.IGN.COM Redfall's creators aim for their co-op vampire slaying shooter to be just as great solo as it is with four players. Of course, whether that's actually the case remains to be seen! Yah I'd like to see the single player gameplay first but that's a positive note Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dodger Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 I think realistically this was an amazing show. Everything slipping to 2023 is just the state of things. Yeah they could have won the internet with cgi trailers announcing Resident Evil 9, Bioshock 4, Silent Hill remake, New Mass Effect all timed exclusive and ended with a Fallout 5 teaser and have everyone slob their knobs for announcing games years away but that’s dumb. Yeah none Of this stuff is eye ball melting next gen games, but that’s because none of those games will be out by 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakoo Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: @GameDadGrant The threads on Resetera have been entertaining of them trying dissect this any possible way they can including what platforms P6 (not announced) is coming to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Dodger said: I think realistically this was an amazing show. Everything slipping to 2023 is just the state of things. Yeah they could have won the internet with cgi trailers announcing Resident Evil 9, Bioshock 4, Silent Hill remake, New Mass Effect all timed exclusive and ended with a Fallout 5 teaser and have everyone slob their knobs for announcing games years away but that’s dumb. Yeah none Of this stuff is eye ball melting next gen games, but that’s because none of those games will be out by 2023. There is a fair argument that Microsoft left a few too many dangling threads from years prior. Outer Wilds 2. Hellblade 2. Avowed. Fable. Perfect Dark. Everwild. Indiana Jones. Elder Scrolls 6. For couple of those games, we should have seen more by now, if not also a release date. But that's also why I appreciate this year as a reset. They're being honest about showing what they have that's ready for prime time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: There is a fair argument that Microsoft left a few too many dangling threads from years prior. Outer Wilds 2. Hellblade 2. Avowed. Fable. Perfect Dark. Everwild. Indiana Jones. Elder Scrolls 6. For couple of those games, we should have seen more by now, if not also a release date. But that's also why I appreciate this year as a reset. They're being honest about what they expect to release soon. Looks like those games are all further away than we thought. Hellblade 2 is still the best looking next gen game we’ve seen anything for but it must not be coming out in the next year. I heard a lot of positive stuff about Avowed to the point where I saw minor speculation it could hit this fall instead of Starfield. Big lol nope to that. People aren’t getting it. People want some Naughty Dog level exclusive to drop soon and that’s just not happening. GoW2 is going to get delayed to 2023 and it’s PS4 game anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised if Spider-Man 2 ends up being a PS4 game too. The next gen calvary isn’t coming for awhile. These are the kind of games that are going to be out in the next 12 months. I think companies are even scared to give any kind of release window right now because everything is getting delayed. MS wasn’t trying to tease a bunch of games that won’t be out until 2025 and later. We should probably expect just about everything with a vague release window to be pushed back at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, Dodger said: Hellblade 2 is still the best looking next gen game we’ve seen anything for but it must not be coming out in the next year. It's in the running for sure, but that demo last year didn't impress like the teaser before it, IMO. 34 minutes ago, Dodger said: People aren’t getting it. People want some Naughty Dog level exclusive to drop soon and that’s just not happening. GoW2 is going to get delayed to 2023 and it’s PS4 game anyway. I wouldn’t be surprised if Spider-Man 2 ends up being a PS4 game too. The next gen calvary isn’t coming for awhile. These are the kind of games that are going to be out in the next 12 months. I think companies are even scared to give any kind of release window right now because everything is getting delayed. MS wasn’t trying to tease a bunch of games that won’t be out until 2025 and later. I don't think that's totally accurate. We're starting to see quite a few more games announced for release soon as next-gen only. Some of them seemingly because of optimization issues. Others for marketing purposes, perhaps. Still others that started development with next-gen targets. But change is starting to happen across the industry. The big 1st party games Sony and Microsoft brought to these showcases are next-gen only as well. You can't even play Redfall on Xbox One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: It's in the running for sure, but that demo last year didn't impress like the teaser before it, IMO. I don't think that's totally accurate. We're starting to see quite a few more games announced as next gen only. Some of them seemingly because of optimization issues. Others for marketing purposes, perhaps. Still others that started development with next-gen targets. But change is starting to happen across the industry. The big 1st party games Sony and Microsoft brought to these showcases are next-gen only as well. You can't even play Redfall on Xbox One. They might be next gen only but a lot of them don’t look next gen only. Like I just assumed RedFall was coming to X1 because while it looks nice, it doesn’t look like a next gen only game. The point isn’t whether or not these games are next gen only or not, the point is people are shitting on the showcase that they weren’t wowed by anything and I’m saying there really isn’t anything mind blowing coming out in the next 12 months. And you can come with cgi trailers for games further out, but these games are likely even further out then their internal targets given damn near everything by damn near everyone has been delayed. I’d bet a good chunk of what we saw today also gets delayed. The point is we’re probably not getting a “AAAA” next gen game until 2024 at the earliest. There will be good stuff releasing before that, but that megaton omgwtfbbq kind of game is at least two years away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 9 hours ago, stepee said: Arkane made rogue-lite fun, they can do this. They didn’t make Hades, Super Giant did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nublood Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Was ES6 even mentioned at this event?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted June 13, 2022 Author Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 minute ago, nublood said: Was ES6 even mentioned at this event?? Nope. Why would they mention it though? It's not coming out within the next 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Dodger said: The point is we’re probably not getting a “AAAA” next gen game until 2024 at the earliest. There will be good stuff releasing before that, but that megaton omgwtfbbq kind of game is at least two years away. There's too many variables to say this with any assurance IMO. We haven't seen enough of games like Jedi Survivor, Alan Wake 2 or Spiderman 2 for instance. Heck, EA and Ubisoft didn't even show up to this. The only thing I truly doubt is that a UE5 game fully utilizing the engine, like the Matrix demo, will release before 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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