Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 About bloody time. Biden invokes Defense Production Act for formula shortage | AP News APNEWS.COM WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Wednesday invoked the Defense Production Act to speed production of infant formula and authorized flights to import supply from overseas, as he faces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: About bloody time. Biden invokes Defense Production Act for formula shortage | AP News APNEWS.COM WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden on Wednesday invoked the Defense Production Act to speed production of infant formula and authorized flights to import... I like that American politicians always want to fix our regulatory failures by just pillaging supply from countries that have functional regulatory bodies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jason said: I like that American politicians always want to fix our regulatory failures by just pillaging supply from countries that have functional regulatory bodies. If it was paired with gutting our regulatory systems to simply outsource that job to Countries that had working regulatory bodies it would be nice! But we don’t do that so it’s the worst of both worlds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 I'm gonna ask a really dumb/ignorant question so forgive me in advance. I don't have kids... What did we do as a people before Baby formula was even a thing? I mean society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'm gonna ask a really dumb/ignorant question so forgive me in advance. I don't have kids... What did we do as a people before Baby formula was even a thing? I mean society. Indentured Black titties 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'm gonna ask a really dumb/ignorant question so forgive me in advance. I don't have kids... What did we do as a people before Baby formula was even a thing? I mean society. What Parents Did Before Baby Formula - The Atlantic WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM The shortage is a calamity—not a victory for breastfeeding. Kinda grim dark from the skim I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Uaarkson said: Indentured Black titties And dead babies. There’s some indigenous recipes for something like a formula but they didn’t really work that well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimpleG Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'm gonna ask a really dumb/ignorant question so forgive me in advance. I don't have kids... What did we do as a people before Baby formula was even a thing? I mean society. To kind of answer this , I am have a severe reaction when it comes to dairy. If I drink a small shake or have a large glass of milk, its projectile vomit time. I had the same issue with breast milk. The solution was Goats milk for me. Buying it now is 10x easier then in the 80's. My parents essentially bought black market goats milk from a SE Asian family that ran grocery/bodega store. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'm gonna ask a really dumb/ignorant question so forgive me in advance. I don't have kids... What did we do as a people before Baby formula was even a thing? I mean society. More dead babies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: More dead babies. And wet nurses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: And wet nurses. 2 hours ago, Uaarkson said: Indentured Black titties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, SimpleG said: To kind of answer this , I am have a severe reaction when it comes to dairy. If I drink a small shake or have a large glass of milk, its projectile vomit time. I had the same issue with breast milk. The solution was Goats milk for me. Buying it now is 10x easier then in the 80's. My parents essentially bought black market goats milk from a SE Asian family that ran grocery/bodega store. I know out of me and my siblings, non of us where breast fed except for my youngest brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Get those "Republicans want to starve your infants" ads rolling! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 What a country 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I hate this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 party system really delivers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 $28M is fucking chump change, imaging voting against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, Kal-El814 said: $28M is fucking chump change, imaging voting against it. Imagine these folks actually giving a damn about anything other than scoring points. This is why dems will always lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I don't really know, but I honestly wonder how many parents are in the situation where they legit cannot feed their baby? I remember seeing formula at target multiple times the last few weeks, at the beginning of these doom and gloom headlines. I mean, if I was a parent with a baby that needed formula, I would be buying in bulk and going store to store and buying up as much supply as I could. I imagine most parents are the same. My gut feeling is that this started as a shortage, and has perhaps evolved into something of a crazy supply and demand thing as everyone is buying whatever they can, whenever they can and hoarding it. Are babies starving? Is that a real thing that's happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, ort said: I don't really know, but I honestly wonder how many parents are in the situation where they legit cannot feed their baby? I remember seeing formula at target multiple times the last few weeks, at the beginning of these doom and gloom headlines. I mean, if I was a parent with a baby that needed formula, I would be buying in bulk and going store to store and buying up as much supply as I could. I imagine most parents are the same. My gut feeling is that this started as a shortage, and has perhaps evolved into something of a crazy supply and demand thing as everyone is buying whatever they can, whenever they can and hoarding it. Are babies starving? Is that a real thing that's happening? It was happening before the formula shortage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Everyone is starving U.S. Hunger Relief Organization | Feeding America WWW.FEEDINGAMERICA.ORG Feeding America is a nonprofit network of 200 food banks leading the fight against hunger in the United States. Learn how you can help end hunger in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ort said: I remember seeing formula at target multiple times the last few weeks, at the beginning of these doom and gloom headlines. Not all formulas are the same. Many babies need very specific mixtures, so subbing one brand or even a particular line within a brand is not always possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreePi Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I know my brother has been keeping an eye on this situation since he has a 4 month old, but he hasn't had a problem yet. But he live in Chicago and the perception is that the shortages are more a rural thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 I'm so glad my nephews are old enough that they don't need formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 22 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I'm gonna ask a really dumb/ignorant question so forgive me in advance. I don't have kids... What did we do as a people before Baby formula was even a thing? I mean society. I hope this does not come off as any kind of shot at you because I truly don't mean it that way. But it says an awful lot about how far we've come in a short time as it pertains to things like medicine and food access that we simply cannot imagine the recent past / present in some parts of the world where the alternative is just... death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Kal-El814 said: I hope this does not come off as any kind of shot at you because I truly don't mean it that way. But it says an awful lot about how far we've come in a short time as it pertains to things like medicine and food access that we simply cannot imagine the recent past / present in some parts of the world where the alternative is just... death. i don't take it as a shot against me personally but I do wonder how we as a species were able to survive without baby formula when, as you put it, before its invention the alternative was death. I asked the question because I honestly don't know but it seems to me that in a country as wealthy and well resourced as ours, a temporary disruption of the supply of baby formula shouldn't be a life or death proposition when ther are parts of the world where this stuff is literally a luxury. Again... I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Guys we already have the answer and it's indentured black titties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, skillzdadirecta said: i don't take it as a shot against me personally but I do wonder how we as a species were able to survive without baby formula when, as you put it, before its invention the alternative was death. I asked the question because I honestly don't know but it seems to me that in a country as wealthy and well resourced as ours, a temporary disruption of the supply of baby formula shouldn't be a life or death proposition when ther are parts of the world where this stuff is literally a luxury. Again... I don't know. A lot of children died before modern technology. That's why people had so many kids, it was expected that some of them wouldn't survive into adulthood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, CastlevaniaNut18 said: A lot of children died before modern technology. That's why people had so many kids, it was expected that some of them wouldn't survive into adulthood. One thing I've seen a lot of people assume when they look at a chart like this... ... is that when they see China's life expectancy at the mid 40's in the 1960's, they think that people didn't "live as long." And while that's true to some extent, a significant reason that number is so low is infant mortality and people dying by / during young adulthood. Most people would die young or die old, and then averages do their thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Even in ancient Greece, living to 80 was kind of noteworthy but far from unheard of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 It's one of those things that most people don't understand with stats. Another example is when someone is like, 80, and someone points out that they are past the life expectancy and could die anytime. This happened a lot with elderly deaths by COVID (making the deaths seem less tragic). But if you look at the life expectancy of people who are already 80, it's like 88+, because you no longer have to worry about dying as a baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: This imagery of an American military aircraft delivering desperately-needed "humanitarian" supplies to the United States itself is utterly embarrassing on every possible level. This is not a "developed nation" in any true sense of the word. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwheel86 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 This is hitting the disability community too who are on feeding tubes and need specialty formulas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/18/2022 at 5:54 PM, skillzdadirecta said: I'm gonna ask a really dumb/ignorant question so forgive me in advance. I don't have kids... What did we do as a people before Baby formula was even a thing? I mean society. More parents breast fed. You had less working mothers so it was easier to make it work. You can give babies home made formula from evaporated milk, or whole milk if they're older. That's what they did in the past. It was not as good as formula but it works. There are recipes out there for home made baby formula. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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