Jason Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 DeSantis signs bill creating new Florida election police force WWW.CNN.COM It's the latest controversial law signed by the Florida Republican in recent days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air_Delivery Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Air_Delivery said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Small government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadatog Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 20 were charged for voter fraud in Florida. Advocates say a broken system is to blame WWW.NPR.ORG Many of the individuals charged by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' new election crimes unit said they had no idea that with their felony convictions, they were unable to vote when they cast 2020 ballots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 This program has a budget of $3.7 million, so it only cost them $185,000 per person to destroy these people's lives over this meaningless bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I guess it was more economical to transport legal immigrants from Texas to Massachusetts. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Yeah, if you ask the State for a voter registration card and the state gives one to you, it's hard to justify convicting them of voter fraud. To me, asking for the card is asking for permission, even if that's not legally true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: This is absolutely disgusting and makes my blood boil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Fuck this fucking country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, TwinIon said: Yeah, if you ask the State for a voter registration card and the state gives one to you, it's hard to justify convicting them of voter fraud. To me, asking for the card is asking for permission, even if that's not legally true. The onus should absolutely be on the state to reject their registrations. It's crazy that they'll allow someone to register, successfully enroll them, tell them they can vote at the local polls, and then arrest them down the road for voter fraud because they didn't know the law well enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: The onus should absolutely be on the state to reject their registrations. It's crazy that they'll allow someone to register, successfully enroll them, tell them they can vote at the local polls, and then arrest them down the road for voter fraud because they didn't know the law well enough. It's not the states job to police it's own policy...until it wants to find a political win to hold a press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Remember when the Supreme Court struck down part of the Voting Rights Act in Shelby v. Holder and John Roberts' reasoning was basically, "Racism ended 40 years ago so this doesn't matter anymore"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ricofoley said: Remember when the Supreme Court struck down part of the Voting Rights Act in Shelby v. Holder and John Roberts' reasoning was basically, "Racism ended 40 years ago so this doesn't matter anymore"? Florida, "Sure, the vast majority of the people targeted here were minorities, but if at least one of them was white then it wasn't racist." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost_MH said: The onus should absolutely be on the state to reject their registrations. It's crazy that they'll allow someone to register, successfully enroll them, tell them they can vote at the local polls, and then arrest them down the road for voter fraud because they didn't know the law well enough. A few years ago there was that one woman in Texas where she was telling the voting official that she didn't think she was eligible to vote but the official insisted she was good and should fill out the forms...and then the woman got locked up and nothing ever happened to the official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jason said: A few years ago there was that one woman in Texas where she was telling the voting official that she didn't think she was eligible to vote but the official insisted she was good and should fill out the forms...and then the woman got locked up and nothing ever happened to the official. I remember that story, but nothing should have happened to that official. The official told her that if she was unsure of her status, she could just cast a provisional ballot. That's the whole reason those provisional ballots are even there. Her vote was never even counted as she was deemed to not be eligible. It was wild bullshit. Texas Court of Criminal Appeals will review Crystal Mason’s controver… WWW.TEXASTRIBUNE.ORG The Tarrant County woman faces a five-year prison sentence for casting a provisional ballot in the 2016 election while on supervised release for a federal conviction. Her vote was never counted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: I remember that story, but nothing should have happened to that official. The official told her that if she was unsure of her status, she could just cast a provisional ballot. That's the whole reason those provisional ballots are even there. Her vote was never even counted as she was deemed to not be eligible. It was wild bullshit. Texas Court of Criminal Appeals will review Crystal Mason’s controver… WWW.TEXASTRIBUNE.ORG The Tarrant County woman faces a five-year prison sentence for casting a provisional ballot in the 2016 election while on supervised release for a federal conviction. Her vote was never counted. Ah okay, I didn't remember the detail about it being a provisional ballot, I thought they'd just fully signed her up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 hours ago, Ricofoley said: Remember when the Supreme Court struck down part of the Voting Rights Act in Shelby v. Holder and John Roberts' reasoning was basically, "Racism ended 40 years ago so this doesn't matter anymore"? The conservative belief of a colorblind constitution is just jarring considering their supposed affinity for history as it applies to constitutional law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: The conservative belief of a colorblind constitution is just jarring considering their supposed affinity for history as it applies to constitutional law I mean, I know I'm not telling you anything you don't know here but you and I both know that the putative color blindness is nothing more than sophistry; a credulous argument from those with power knowing how neutral language inherently benefits them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 There are more. Even the officers are confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, SaysWho? said: There are more. Even the officers are confused: Literally what I posted though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Keyser_Soze said: Literally what I posted though. It's not. Mine's a few minutes longer and has more video. That's why I said it has more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 minute ago, SaysWho? said: It's not. Mine's a few minutes longer and has more video. That's why I said it has more. It's got a link to the same article and video. I'll let you off the hook this time though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: 'll let you off the hook this time though. Oh yeah? Says who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Just now, Jason said: Oh yeah? Says who? @SaysWho? Will decide if I let him off the hook. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 I've said this before, it is literally the people forever under the thumb of the government that have most reason for wanting to choose their representation. Restore all voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I've said this before, it is literally the people forever under the thumb of the government that have most reason for wanting to choose their representation. Restore all voters. I mean, that is what Florida voters wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsida Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 hours ago, sblfilms said: I've said this before, it is literally the people forever under the thumb of the government that have most reason for wanting to choose their representation. Restore all voters. That’s literally what we voted for! The ballot initiative didn’t have all these provisions and exceptions. The state GOP inserted them to subvert the will of voters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Sevral other states are doing this too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Note: the case was tossed on a procedural matter so don't get too excited about its potential ramifications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Note: the case was tossed on a procedural matter so don't get too excited about its potential ramifications. true, but https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article267659012.html Quote Davis argued that Statewide Prosecutor Nicholas Cox, who reports to Attorney General Ashley Moody, did not have jurisdiction to bring charges against Wood. The statewide prosecutor is restricted by law to prosecuting crimes, including voting, involving two or more judicial circuits. Those crimes are usually “complex, often large scale, organized criminal activity,” according to its website. In the case of Wood and at least 18 other people DeSantis has accused of voting illegally in 2020, the statewide prosecutor said they committed crimes in multiple jurisdictions when they first registered to vote and then cast a ballot, each third-degree felonies carrying up to five years in prison. [...] Regardless, statewide prosecutors still have a difficult task seeing each of the 18 other cases through to conviction. State law says that a voter has to “willfully” commit the crime — a hurdle that has forced some prosecutors not to charge ineligible voters. I'll take it. no doubt they'll change the law though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 Boy, it sure seems like it was mostly only black people that got arrested for this! Oh, it was mostly only black people that got arrested for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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