Moa Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Hitler's paintings. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury33 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 None, that’s not how it works 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5timechamp Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 20 hours ago, SimpleG said: When ever this topic comes up I am reminded that @GeneticBlueprint explained to me how to separate man from art. Some of my favorite films are from Roman Polanski Black Metal is teeming with White Nationalists but if its good , Ill listen The last Manson album was pretty good and I still listen to it As much as I hate Jackie Chan , his fight choreography is second to none. And I fathom most of us on here have played games made by some real shit heel companies . I am sure if someone wanted to they could find out that every piece of media has a dick bag of an individual connected. what did Jackie Chan do?? For myself, I dont particularly disassociate myself from movies or things I previously enjoyed but I have noticed that "negative" info on some folks does tend to affect my opinion of folks to where I would avoid stuff theyre involved in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, 5timechamp said: what did Jackie Chan do?? I believe he's all in on the Chinese communist party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I dunno, I'm not a big movie buff and there's not many movies I rewatch. I really don't like Tom Cruise, so I don't watch his movies. But I can't say his type of movies generally interest me in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I think it’s such a personal decision. Like, Roman Polanski is a monster, a rapist piece of shit, but I still rewatch Chinatown because it’s incredible and a very important American film. However, I wouldn’t judge nor ridicule anyone who chooses not to view his works. And I think that’s key; it’s up to the individual to decide what works they don’t want to engage with, and up to the rest of us to respect those choices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I also find it interesting that someone would probably not watch a movie about children being murdered but they turn around and say they wouldn't care if their favorite actor/filmmkaer killed children. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberChef Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 20 hours ago, Emblazon said: Tom Cruise is batshit crazy, and locked Katie Holmes in a basement... ... but dammit if I don't NEED to see Top Gun 2 on the largest screen ever created by man. Don't forget the next two Mission Impossible films, totally stoked for them! Tom absolutely makes EVENT films to be seen on the largest screens. 13 hours ago, Moa said: Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Hitler's paintings. What about his Vegan diet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 So you're saying there is nuance to such discussions and that we can't righteously paint it all with one simple guiding principle?! But I'm an AMERICAN! I want a SIMPLE answer to all of life's complex problems! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Most recently, Cas Anvar was a rough one. He was one of the best characters on the expanse, and sadly season 6 was worse without him. That said, he definitely had to go, but damn, his absence was felt strongly. I was watching s3 again recently, and realized that was my problem with s6, it didn't feel right without him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Most recently, Cas Anvar was a rough one. He was one of the best characters on the expanse, and sadly season 6 was worse without him. That said, he definitely had to go, but damn, his absence was felt strongly. I was watching s3 again recently, and realized that was my problem with s6, it didn't feel right without him Yup losing Alex was tough and broke the chemistry of the crew. That said, you're right, dude had to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 3:38 AM, stepee said: I loved Sixith Sense when it came out and enjoyed Unbreakable but I can’t watch them or any M Night Shyamalan movie anymore, just can’t look past it. On 4/24/2022 at 4:01 AM, stepee said: He released The Village. By the way, I don't often actually laugh out loud when I read something, but this legit made me cackle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 11 hours ago, SoberChef said: What about his Vegan diet? *vegetarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Anything with Jason Bateman in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I certainly understand people who can't separate art from artist at all, but that's not me. I don't generally think about the actors or directors while I'm watching something. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatoneshere Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 4/23/2022 at 7:10 PM, Mercury33 said: None, that’s not how it works 1 hour ago, TwinIon said: I certainly understand people who can't separate art from artist at all, but that's not me. I don't generally think about the actors or directors while I'm watching something. These, for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, TwinIon said: I certainly understand people who can't separate art from artist at all, but that's not me. I don't generally think about the actors or directors while I'm watching something. Same, except in a very few instances. I absolutely can't watch the cosby show. I tried watching some clips just to see how I felt, and wow. It's creepy. That said, I have no problem watching CK, or Joss Whedon (which I still think is an overreaction to "the boss is mean and liked to sleep around") give me no problems. I still watch Miramax movies, because lets face it, they made some of the best movies of the 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, TwinIon said: I certainly understand people who can't separate art from artist at all, but that's not me. I don't generally think about the actors or directors while I'm watching something. I find it difficult to believe that people are able to compartmentalize to the point that this NEVER comes up for them and this is coming from a world class compartmentalizer. I said Woody Allen before, but I'm not a big fan so it's not like it comes up often for me. But I genuinely don't see how someone could watch Manhattan and NOT have IRL Woody Allen affect the experience unless they had no idea what he was about. Same with something like Louie. I get someone being able to make it through The Pianist without Polanski's shit coming to mind. With someone like Chappelle, if a Chapelle's Show skit comes up or someone references it, the first thing that comes to my mind isn't that he's on Team TERF. Or as someone else mentioned... not that anyone should watch American Beauty but I don't know how anyone could fail to think of Spacey's real life when his character almost fucks a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I compartmentalize nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 4/24/2022 at 7:48 PM, Bacon said: Anything with Jason Bateman in it. How could Jason Bateman possibly be the only one you’ll never watch again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, Kal-El814 said: I find it difficult to believe that people are able to compartmentalize to the point that this NEVER comes up for them and this is coming from a world class compartmentalizer. I said Woody Allen before, but I'm not a big fan so it's not like it comes up often for me. But I genuinely don't see how someone could watch Manhattan and NOT have IRL Woody Allen affect the experience unless they had no idea what he was about. Same with something like Louie. I get someone being able to make it through The Pianist without Polanski's shit coming to mind. With someone like Chappelle, if a Chapelle's Show skit comes up or someone references it, the first thing that comes to my mind isn't that he's on Team TERF. Or as someone else mentioned... not that anyone should watch American Beauty but I don't know how anyone could fail to think of Spacey's real life when his character almost fucks a child. Separating the art from the artist is about criticism. It is saying that the Pianist is not a bad movie because Polanski is a rapist. If the movie was otherwise identical but had been made by someone else, it would still be the same movie of the same quality. If it was discovered that Shakespeare was a serial killer, it would not mean that we had been collectively duped into loving and imitating bad art for the last 400 years. Separating the art form the artist does not mean you can't or shouldn't be uncomfortable consuming art from bad people. It doesn't mean that art cannot be ruined for you by the actions of the artist. It just means the the art itself is not ruined. It's also not an unimpeachable concept written into the fundamental particles of the universe. I could start throwing around the words intent, context, subjectivity, and objectivity, but then we'd have an essay on our hands and I won't be a part of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 37 minutes ago, Chris- said: How could Jason Bateman possibly be the only one you’ll never watch again. I don't like him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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