stepee Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: You don’t know what you’re talking about. you know it’s bunk because in order for it to be about something else besides harassment you’d have to suspend your disbelief that people care enough to have a movement based on ethics in game journalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 31, 2022 Author Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 minute ago, stepee said: you know it’s bunk because in order for it to be about something else besides harassment you’d have to suspend your disbelief that people care enough to have a movement based on ethics in game journalism I'm sure he's capable of believing that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Important things like..ethics in games journalism aside, this game does look pretty dope. Looking forward to reading impressions since I probably am a long way out from getting to this one. I’m in the middle of like 50 games right now so 150 hours, just won’t happen atm. I’m really impressed with what they pulled off with this technically though. Looks to be pushing switch to the limits while at the same time largely fixing the IQ from XB2, good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, Biggie said: I’ll be playing this tonight thanks to Best. He bought it for my birthday. He’s good people. Welcome to the party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Nah, I do, some of you guys just like ignoring any side but yours. Gamergate started when Zoe Quinn's ex lied about her exchanging sex for a favorable review. This has been extensively documented, which you'd know if you actually cared about games journalism and bothered to do 45 seconds of googling. You don't know what you're talking about, you're role-playing again, or both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 40 minutes ago, stepee said: I’m really impressed with what they pulled off with this technically though. Looks to be pushing switch to the limits while at the same time largely fixing the IQ from XB2, good stuff. What this games does REALLY well is make me realized how cheap and full of themselves Gamefreak is. Monolith Soft is literally a phone call away. Even Nintendo's Zelda team is calling them up for technical assistance. I understand they aren't part of Nintendo, but there's no way they wouldn't help with all the engine issues Gamefreak has since trying to go open world with Pokemon. They've been getting better, but then XC3 comes out and it's legitimately gorgeous. Yeah, the frame rate can drop a bit during combat, but that's when you've got 4+ player characters all doing they're own thing plus another 5+ enemy chargers ranging from humans to towering monsters. This game is as much a marvel on the Switch as XCX was on the Wii U, and I'm still not sure that game featured everything I swear it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, Ghost_MH said: What this games does REALLY well is make me realized how cheap and full of themselves Gamefreak is. Monolith Soft is literally a phone call away. Even Nintendo's Zelda team is calling them up for technical assistance. I understand they aren't part of Nintendo, but there's no way they wouldn't help with all the engine issues Gamefreak has since trying to go open world with Pokemon. They've been getting better, but then XC3 comes out and it's legitimately gorgeous. Yeah, the frame rate can drop a bit during combat, but that's when you've got 4+ player characters all doing they're own thing plus another 5+ enemy chargers ranging from humans to towering monsters. This game is as much a marvel on the Switch as XCX was on the Wii U, and I'm still not sure that game featured everything I swear it did. I know what you mean since this is impressive and XCX was pretty crazy with what it did on Wiiu from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard for me to give them THAT much credit still after XB2, and XB1DE wasn’t that much better especially for it being a remaster of a much older game. They obviously have technical expertise as shown before and again now, but they also obviously had some difficulties there for a bit too rather recently. I think I’d rather see GF lean on EAD for technical guidance and get me some of that properly scoped near native dynamic res/60fps Mario Odyssey type of thing with Pokémon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Nintendo just needs to open up its wallet and go ahead and buy all of Gamefreak. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, stepee said: I know what you mean since this is impressive and XCX was pretty crazy with what it did on Wiiu from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard for me to give them THAT much credit still after XB2, and XB1DE wasn’t that much better especially for it being a remaster of a much older game. They obviously have technical expertise as shown before and again now, but they also obviously had some difficulties there for a bit too rather recently. XB2 was likely an issue of them rushing it out, not totally having a handle of the Switch hardware, and being split between it and BoTW. Haven’t played DE, but Torna was a good deal more performant than base XB2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 20 minutes ago, Brick said: Nintendo just needs to open up its wallet and go ahead and buy all of Gamefreak. I agree, but that would also be wildly expensive since they'd also be buying a third of the Pokemon Company. How much would that even be worth? Pokemon is only the most valuable property on Earth. Game Freak would also be idiots to accept any purchase. If you owned a third of Pokemon, is there really any number you'd sell that for? They have fewer than 200 employees and are making money hand over first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 What difficulty are y’all playing on? Easy, normal, or hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Biggie said: What difficulty are y’all playing on? Easy, normal, or hard? Normal. I almost always play on normal my first time through an RPG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 First off the music is fantastic. The opening is incredible. Really sets the stage. Only played 2 hours but it seems like a mix of 1 and 2 and it’s awesome. I love how quickly you can pick up items. Also the exploration is great. I see areas way off in the distance and I just have to make my way over to see what’s there. So far the characters are really neat and I can see them growing on me. Combat is basically like 1 and 2 so far. I’m sure things will open up once I advance the story. I’m very early on. Love the futuristic story. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 13 minutes ago, Biggie said: First off the music is fantastic. The opening is incredible. Really sets the stage. Only played 2 hours but it seems like a mix of 1 and 2 and it’s awesome. I love how quickly you can pick up items. Also the exploration is great. I see areas way off in the distance and I just have to make my way over to see what’s there. So far the characters are really neat and I can see them growing on me. Combat is basically like 1 and 2 so far. I’m sure things will open up once I advance the story. I’m very early on. Love the futuristic story. I'm three chapters in and there are still combat options opening up for me. To say there are options for how to build out your characters in an understatement. Only thing it's missing is Skell customization because there are no Skells in this game. I'd love a more refined XCX2 with much improved mech combat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 14 hours ago, Ghost_MH said: I'm three chapters in and there are still combat options opening up for me. To say there are options for how to build out your characters in an understatement. Only thing it's missing is Skell customization because there are no Skells in this game. I'd love a more refined XCX2 with much improved mech combat. thought I read one review where the reviewer said at hour 40 he was still getting tutorials on new options he may have been using hyperbole but I almost believe him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, EternallDarkness said: thought I read one review where the reviewer said at hour 40 he was still getting tutorials on new options he may have been using hyperbole but I almost believe him Yeah, those tutorials? READ THEM. I'm in Chapter 3 and I skipped my way through one and then hit a bit of the story where it was like "this option will temporarily be unavailable to you" and I was like "I didn't realize that was even an option". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 I’m really digging the story. Much more than 1 or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I’m enjoying the subtle nods to the first two games. Nothing too profound, but it’s interesting how they’ve juxtaposed the two arts systems of each game. And it’s cool to see some similar land mass features make a cameo. Same goes with the characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 The story just got soooooooo good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Biggie said: The story just got soooooooo good. What chapter are you on? I like the opening better than 2, maybe not quite as much as 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkstark Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Biggie said: The story just got soooooooo good. I don't believe you. If it has a good story it'd be the first jrpg ever to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: What chapter are you on? I like the opening better than 2, maybe not quite as much as 1. I’m pretty early on but the plot has just twisted 15 minutes ago, thedarkstark said: I don't believe you. If it has a good story it'd be the first jrpg ever to do so. It’s solid that’s for damn sure lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 10 hours ago, thedarkstark said: I don't believe you. If it has a good story it'd be the first jrpg ever to do so. That's complete nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkstark Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 2 hours ago, BloodyHell said: That's complete nonsense. Nope. I love JRPGs but the stories are cookie cutter nonsense. 14-19 year old child is "the chosen one" destined to save the world. Throw in some horny anime tropes and you have 95% of jrpgs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, thedarkstark said: Nope. I love JRPGs but the stories are cookie cutter nonsense. 14-19 year old child is "the chosen one" destined to save the world. Throw in some horny anime tropes and you have 95% of jrpgs. It's a classic trope for a reason. People love grand adventures/hero stories. No one wants to read about a corn farmer who does nothing but grow corn, grow old, and die. Not that a 'regular' person's life story can't be absolutely fascinating, but when you're looking for escapism you tend to want something grander then the story of Melvin the dirt farmer. Granted the 'chosen one' is perhaps a bit overused but if the story is told well that's what really matters. It's not like there is any such thing as an original story anymore, the only thing original is how writers tell the story, how they dress it up and make it unique. As for the story in Xeno 3, only 15 hours or so in but I have to say I think it's solid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 38 minutes ago, thedarkstark said: Nope. I love JRPGs but the stories are cookie cutter nonsense. 14-19 year old child is "the chosen one" destined to save the world. Throw in some horny anime tropes and you have 95% of jrpgs. I’d agree that most of them don’t have amazing plots, but to its credit, XB3 hasn’t really pulled out those tropes yet. Even though I’m sure it’ll get there eventually. There’s some breadcrumbs. As long as a JRPG has fun twists and stakes that push you forward, I’m content. If I get something more, great. Occasionally this series does deliver on that, with its world building and sci-fi plot elements. Just to say it… I’m convinced that a lot of the people that dismiss JRPGs out of turn will also praise Marvel movies as high fiction. There’s room for some cheese across the board. It’s all fantasy fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedarkstark Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 17 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Just to say it… I’m convinced that a lot of the people that dismiss JRPGs out of turn will also praise Marvel movies as high fiction. There’s room for some cheese across the board. It’s all fantasy fun. I actually really dislike the Marvel movies. I loved the Nolan Batman movies and Batman as a character in general because it tells a more personal story of a flawed person dealing with trauma in an objectively messed up way. I'm not saying xb3 story is bad I'm just skeptical that it's good, but that's not going to stop me from playing and enjoying it. I'm probably going to go pick it up today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I really appreciate the side quests in this game. The fetch quests are all automated through the menu and repeatable, so they don't feel like incomplete tasks sitting there. The other side quests all feel like something substantial. They feel a lot like the blade missions in XC2, like there's an actual point to them and it's not just the to pad out the time. Also, yes, this game has a great story for a videogame. Games, in general, have pretty shit stories. JRPGs aren't any more guilty of having shit stories than other genre. This game does lean on the side of "hey, this is pretty damn good". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, EternallDarkness said: It's a classic trope for a reason. People love grand adventures/hero stories. No one wants to read about a corn farmer who does nothing but grow corn, grow old, and die. Bold statement coming from a Harvest Moon fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 I have the game but I noped out due to performance. I'll get back to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternallDarkness Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Keyser_Soze said: Bold statement coming from a Harvest Moon fan. you know I'm not even sure I've owned a Harvest Moon game (though knowing me and how I was with game buying I likely owned many) but if I did I likely never played it for more than 5 minutes. I just liked that farmer icon back in the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 1 hour ago, EternallDarkness said: you know I'm not even sure I've owned a Harvest Moon game (though knowing me and how I was with game buying I likely owned many) but if I did I likely never played it for more than 5 minutes. I just liked that farmer icon back in the day Harvest Moon Friends of Mineral Town and HM 64. Go go go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Zaku3 said: I have the game but I noped out due to performance. I'll get back to it. There’s moments it dips framerate a little, but everything is fine for me portably. Resolution is much better than XB2. Going to have to see how docked is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: There’s moments it dips framerate a little, but everything is fine for me portably. Resolution is much better than XB2. Going to have to see how docked is. Over gone about 50/50 docked and portable. It's about the same either way. IQ isn't quite as nice on any of my 4k displays, but it's still fine solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggie Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 The characters are awesome. So is the story. This is by far the best Xenoblade out of 1, 2, and 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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