Canadian Insurrection | UPDATE - Oversight commission rules invocation of Emergency Act by Trudeau was warranted

[CitizenVectron]

Also, Pat King, one of the organizers of the convoy (and leader of the more militant section) has left Ottawa, saying he is needed in...New Brunswick? lol. He knows the writing is on the wall that he would be a target of police, so he has abandoned his followers after saying he's willing to die for the cause. Can't continue to grift if you get caught!

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

2 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

Crews are out installing fences and concrete barricades around the protest areas. Protestors are yelling at the crews that their names are being recorded and that they will be "dealt with" at the "trials."

These people seem dumber than the M-L’s speaking of revolution 

[SuperSpreader]

9 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

Also, Pat King, one of the organizers of the convoy (and leader of the more militant section) has left Ottawa, saying he is needed in...New Brunswick? lol. He knows the writing is on the wall that he would be a target of police, so he has abandoned his followers after saying he's willing to die for the cause. Can't continue to grift if you get caught!

 

Is it the wilderness in NB? Tell me about it. 

 

Also what's Nova Scotia like? I've always been interested for some reason. 

[CitizenVectron]

20 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said:

 

Is it the wilderness in NB? Tell me about it. 

 

Also what's Nova Scotia like? I've always been interested for some reason. 

 

Nova Scotia is beautiful. I've only been there once, and I was mainly in the region between Halifax and Cape Breton Island. We went along the Cabot Trail, which was stunning, and also did open sea kayaking (images below are not mine, lol). Halifax is also a beautiful city. I'd say that exploring the Maritimes (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island) is a better trip to Canada than something like Whistler/Lake Louise in the Rockies.

 

Cape Breton Island:

 

Halifax:

[Bloodporne]

1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

Nova Scotia is beautiful. I've only been there once, and I was mainly in the region between Halifax and Cape Breton Island. We went along the Cabot Trail, which was stunning, and also did open sea kayaking (images below are not mine, lol). Halifax is also a beautiful city. I'd say that exploring the Maritimes (Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island) is a better trip to Canada than something like Whistler/Lake Louise in the Rockies.

 

Cape Breton Island:

 

Halifax:

I wasn't sure why I clicked on this thread to begin with because I don't give a shit but now I do! Brb planning a trip to Nova Scotia now. 

[CitizenVectron]

7 minutes ago, Bloodporne said:

I wasn't sure why I clicked on this thread to begin with because I don't give a shit but now I do! Brb planning a trip to Nova Scotia now. 

 

My wife and I are planning to go in the next few years. Not sure if we'll include Newfoundland as well. The Maritime provinces can all be access by road (since PEI is connected to the mainland by a giant bridge), but Newfoundland still requires a plane or long-ass ferry ride. But Newfoundland is much more "wild" than the Maritimes, more rural and traditional. It only joined Canada in 1949, and its wilderness is incredible.

 

St. John's, Newfoundland (capital):

 

 

 

 

Newfoundland and Labrador nature:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CitizenVectron]

 

[AbsolutSurgen]

Emergencies 17 02 22 (squarespace.com)

Maru is now doing daily polling:

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• a vast majority (82%) say that there is no way this protesting should have gone on as long as it has
• a majority (67%) believe that it's time to clear out the protesters in Ottawa, even if it means people who will not leave may get hurt, or worse
• half (50%) say they’re proud of the way the police have handled the situation with the protesters
• a majority (71%) believe Canada is an international embarrassment for not being able to run its own country
• a majority (54%) say they’re ashamed to be a Canadian because of how their politicians have let these protests get out of hand
• a majority (68%) say that regardless of political stripe, the politicians who have contributed to or supported these protests should be voted out of office
• a majority (56%) believe that while the premiers may say that it was time to lower COVID related restrictions, all they’ve done is caved in to the protesters and given them what they wanted
• one-third (32%) are partial to taking up violent actions to protect their fundamental Canadian values

a majority (71%) believe Canada is an international embarrassment for not being able to run its own country

[CitizenVectron]

Yeah, from the same poll, a clear majority support the Emergencies Act and clearing out the protests:

 

 

[CitizenVectron]

And from Abacus, majority are less likely to vote for MPs supporting the protests:

 

 

[Bloodporne]

9 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

My wife and I are planning to go in the next few years. Not sure if we'll include Newfoundland as well. The Maritime provinces can all be access by road (since PEI is connected to the mainland by a giant bridge), but Newfoundland still requires a plane or long-ass ferry ride. But Newfoundland is much more "wild" than the Maritimes, more rural and traditional. It only joined Canada in 1949, and its wilderness is incredible.

 

St. John's, Newfoundland (capital):

 

 

 

 

Newfoundland and Labrador nature:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey thanks for that post. I'm not sure why I've never considered visiting any of these places. I've been to Montreal a lot and it's about a 6 hour drive from my house, I should look up if Nova Scotia etc. are doable as well. 

 

Edit: Also, Newfoundland REALLY reminds me of Norway in every way. I've been to Bergen, Norway twice and this reminds me of it heavily. 

[Commissar SFLUFAN]

8 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

a majority (71%) believe Canada is an international embarrassment for not being able to run its own country

 

Now you know what it's like to be an American!

 

[AbsolutSurgen]

5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

And from Abacus, majority are less likely to vote for MPs supporting the protests:

 

 

Those Green Party supporters....  I didn't expect that before this crisis.

[CitizenVectron]

2 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

Those Green Party supporters....  I didn't expect that before this crisis.

 

I've heard the phrase before that the Green Party is comprised of "conservatives with bikes."

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

3 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said:

 

Now you know what it's like to be an American!

 

It’s really adorable watching a newly embarrassing country coming into its own

[AbsolutSurgen]

1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

I've heard the phrase before that the Green Party is comprised of "conservatives with bikes."

I'll be honest, I only know 2 Green Party supporters.  And, they are mostly swing voters between the NDP and Green.  My perception must have been skewed by them.

[CitizenVectron]

 

It seems like something might go down Friday or Saturday. A child services agency also is telling anyone with children in the protest to arrange for alternative care in the event they are arrested and their children are taken.

[silentbob]

10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

It seems like something might go down Friday or Saturday. A child services agency also is telling anyone with children in the protest to arrange for alternative care in the event they are arrested and their children are taken.

They want them out before they get covered in snow/ice tonight and tomorrow.

[AbsolutSurgen]

5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

It seems like something might go down Friday or Saturday. A child services agency also is telling anyone with children in the protest to arrange for alternative care in the event they are arrested and their children are taken.

There is no way they will want to do something on the weekend.  There are so many more people there.

[chakoo]

It would be dumb to wait for the weekend when reinforcement tend to come. They're best to clear them out before friday morning then block all outside traffic heading into the city.

[AbsolutSurgen]

 

[AbsolutSurgen]

[CitizenVectron]

4 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

 

Except it's entirely wrong? It's like saying that someone dressing up as Hitler for Halloween is no longer able to criticize someone waiving a Nazi flag at a rally. There's a very large difference between being stupid and insensitive and actually believing in Nazism. Trudeau dressing in brownface was incredibly stupid, but it's not relevant to being against Nazis. Like, the headline "Adultery enthusiast says Serbian treatment of Croatians is bad" would be equally dumb in the 1990s to describe Bill Clinton opposing the Serbian wars.

[SuperSpreader]

haha now the argument is about who used the meanest words and not the people trying to overthrow the government

[CitizenVectron]

Just now, SuperSpreader said:

haha now the argument is about who used the meanest words and not the people trying to overthrow the government

 

This is what American always converges on—how words are used (not the actual words), and what the reactions to the situation is, not the actual situation. It's why Ilhan Omar's stupid statement is eating up oxygen in US coverage, and the same reason in general that someone being accused of being racist gets as much coverage as actual racism. The US should just stay out of other's business when they normally don't already cover that business.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

Trudeau dressing in brownface was incredibly racist

I fixed your typo 

[AbsolutSurgen]

5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

Except it's entirely wrong? It's like saying that someone dressing up as Hitler for Halloween is no longer able to criticize someone waiving a Nazi flag at a rally. There's a very large difference between being stupid and insensitive and actually believing in Nazism. Trudeau dressing in brownface was incredibly stupid, but it's not relevant to being against Nazis. Like, the headline "Adultery enthusiast says Serbian treatment of Croatians is bad" would be equally dumb in the 1990s to describe Bill Clinton opposing the Serbian wars.

 What he is doing, is not criticizing the person waving the Nazi flag.  AFAIK, one person showed up at a protest with a Nazi flag 3 weeks ago -- and no one has been able to identify who that person was.  Many of the truckers have publicly expressed their dismay/frustration about it. Continuing to suggest that this protest is about Nazi-ism is disingenuous -- and telling a Jew that they are supporting Nazism is beyond the bounds of human decency.

[AbsolutSurgen]

27 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said:

haha now the argument is about who used the meanest words and not the people trying to overthrow the government

They're not trying all that hard.

 

Having a hot tub and a dance party in front of the parliament buildings is doing very little to actually overthrow the government.  The impact/inconvenience on the citizens  of Ottawa is the real problem.

[Guest]

I do think it says a lot about how soft we are in the western world that these things are thought of as attempts to overthrow the government.

[CitizenVectron]

 

[chakoo]

1 hour ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

 

And yet this person runs to Fox News to cry foul. It's as if she really doesn't care and it's all just politics to her.

[AbsolutSurgen]

10 minutes ago, chakoo said:

 

And yet this person runs to Fox News to cry foul. It's as if she really doesn't care and it's all just politics to her.

You think it is unusual for an MP to accept an interview request from a major news outlet?  And if she did, it somehow changes what was said in the House?

[CitizenVectron]

Very rational Musk

 

 

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

You think it is unusual for an MP to accept an interview request from a major news outlet?  And if she did, it somehow changes what was said in the House?

That also incorrectly assumes that it wasn’t Fox News running to the MP, which is obviously what actually happened. Major news outlets don’t wait around for people to contact them, everybody that ends up on their airwaves were sought out by producers at the network.

[chakoo]

18 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

You think it is unusual for an MP to accept an interview request from a major news outlet?  And if she did, it somehow changes what was said in the House?

 

If you actually knew who she was you would know that she didn't just fall into this and know what she is doing. Before being an MP she worked as a strategist and was frequently on Canadian news.

 

"In 2018, Lantsman served as director of communications for Ontario MPP Caroline Mulroney's candidacy for leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario.[6] Following Mulroney's loss, Lantsman joined the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario's campaign for the 2018 Ontario general election as its chief spokesperson and war room director.[6] In this role, she oversaw all press communications and social media releases by the campaign. The election resulted in a majority government for the Progressive Conservatives, the first since 2002 after 16 years of Liberal Government in Ontario.[7] Following the election, Lantsman joined Hill+Knowlton Strategies, an international public relations strategy firm, at their Toronto office.[6] In 2020, she joined Enterprise Canada, a strategic public relations consultancy, as its vice president for National Public Affairs.[8] She relinquished her partnership in Enterprise in 2021 to focus on her political candidacy."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Lantsman

 

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I should add, I knew all this because I actually do watch a lot of CBC and have seen her on multiple times and knew who it was when I saw the first twitter pictures posted.