CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 At this point it's not far-fetched to say that this is a soft-coup supported by police, but that the protestors themselves are very incompetent and dumb in their aims/power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Despite there being hundreds of officers, buses to transport prisoners, and a court order that police clear the bridge...the police have backed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 OPP have taken over Ottawa police response after OPS have utterly failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Despite there being hundreds of officers, buses to transport prisoners, and a court order that police clear the bridge...the police have backed off. Turns out it may not just be “some of those who work forces” but all of them in fact 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 READY TO LISTEN TO WHAT?! Their demands are that the government is dissolved and replaced by unelected individuals, and they are shutting down, what, 5 or 6 border crossings at this point? Thousands of people are out of work because of them in Ottawa, and soon it will be tens of thousands in Ontario. The tweeter is also one of the worst MPs in Canada, totally insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 40 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: READY TO LISTEN TO WHAT?! Their demands are that the government is dissolved and replaced by unelected individuals, and they are shutting down, what, 5 or 6 border crossings at this point? Thousands of people are out of work because of them in Ottawa, and soon it will be tens of thousands in Ontario. The tweeter is also one of the worst MPs in Canada, totally insane. The whole point is to make sure the public has absolutely no trust left is Trudeau, and to force hom to step down. Why do you think Ottawa Police are doing nothing? They ste conservatives, ad most Police are, but the RCMP answer directly to the pm. If the RCMP can be seen as using violence on protesters, Trudeau is done. In fact I would expect some far right cops to use excessive force when all this goes off exactly for the reason of further hurting Trudeau politically. They don't want a new government, they want mandates and Trudeau gone. Even Canadian news is turning on him. I saw earlier them showing a clip of him saying, "Canada is not a place where we will ever have vaccine passes". (Paraphrasing). Im not sure he knows it yet, but his career is over. Im sure the more ambitious members of his party smell blood, and will Singh continue to prop him up after this? His legacy will be disgrace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 https://twitter.com/WrathOfTheBears/status/1491545388440035334?t=EC-BQBe8nrQBkmJpd3Q4zg&s=19 Can't get it to embed for some reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 here you go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 44 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: The whole point is to make sure the public has absolutely no trust left is Trudeau, and to force hom to step down. Why do you think Ottawa Police are doing nothing? They ste conservatives, ad most Police are, but the RCMP answer directly to the pm. If the RCMP can be seen as using violence on protesters, Trudeau is done. In fact I would expect some far right cops to use excessive force when all this goes off exactly for the reason of further hurting Trudeau politically. They don't want a new government, they want mandates and Trudeau gone. Even Canadian news is turning on him. I saw earlier them showing a clip of him saying, "Canada is not a place where we will ever have vaccine passes". (Paraphrasing). Im not sure he knows it yet, but his career is over. Im sure the more ambitious members of his party smell blood, and will Singh continue to prop him up after this? His legacy will be disgrace. That's pretty hyperbolic about his legacy. He's more likely to be remembered for the childcare program and the carbon levy, long-term. Oh, and the creation of independent senators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said: That's pretty hyperbolic about his legacy. He's more likely to be remembered for the childcare program and the carbon levy, long-term. Oh, and the creation of independent senators. And Ivanka picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 If the PM steps down does that trigger a new election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 and for Marijuana Legalization. Still needs improvements in the legal markets, like by allowing edibles to be greater then their max 10mg. Especially with what the illegal market offers pretty easily still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If the PM steps down does that trigger a new election? Not right away as the interim leader takes over as PM (Freeland) This allows the party time to setup and hold a party vote on who they think should lead them forward. After that a national election is usually called Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 10 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: And like, this is 100% a Russian-backed operation, and it's likely that it could tank Trudeau's numbers enough to have him resign before the next election. I'm actually okay with that as I think the Liberals would be better off with Freeland or Mendicino against Poilievre, but we should all be scared that Russia is so effective at destabilizing western democracies. Where is this coming from? Sorry I’m being triggered by people offhandedly saying ‘it was Russia’ now after the Steele Dossier fiasco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 38 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If the PM steps down does that trigger a new election? 28 minutes ago, silentbob said: Not right away as the interim leader takes over as PM (Freeland) This allows the party time to setup and hold a party vote on who they think should lead them forward. After that a national election is usually called Not exactly. The PM is chosen by the House of Commons. So, typically the person who is in charge of the party that won an election. When a PM steps down, they usually give notice and their party will elect a new leader (who becomes the PM). There is no election called unless either that party asks the GG for it, or Parliament votes non-confidence. The last few times this has happened (PM steps down, is replaced by new PM) have been: (old PM to new PM, time served before calling election) Chretien to Martin: 6 months (2000s) Mulroney to Campbell: 6 months (1990s) Trudeau to Turner: 5 months (1980s) Basically, once the party elects a new leader, they will likely not call an election for a while as they'll want some time to prepare a budget/plan, etc. Now, if Trudeau were to step down immediately then the PM becomes whomever has the confidence of Parliament. There is no automatic succession of power like in the US. Likely it would be Chrystia Freeland since she is deputy PM, but theoretically anyone could be chosen if they can show the GG that they have the confidence of the House. When MacDonald died in office it was a Senator who was selected until the party could hold a vote on their new leader. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brick Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BloodyHell said: https://twitter.com/WrathOfTheBears/status/1491545388440035334?t=EC-BQBe8nrQBkmJpd3Q4zg&s=19 Can't get it to embed for some reason 1 hour ago, silentbob said: here you go She should know better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: @AbsolutSurgen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricofoley Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: Where is this coming from? Sorry I’m being triggered by people offhandedly saying ‘it was Russia’ now after the Steele Dossier fiasco There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that a lot of the big Facebook accounts promoting the protests are modded by people outside of Canada, and outside of North America in a lot of cases. I haven't seen anything definitively tying it to Russia. I think that's mostly people making assumptions for right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 ‘We Are Fed Up’: Wealthy Business People Who Donated to Far-Right Convoy Believe They Are Oppressed PRESSPROGRESS.CA Top donors that bankrolled ‘Freedom Convoy’ include investment bankers, real estate investors and start-up gurus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AbsolutSurgen Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 The incompetence continues to grow. They could have arrested 30 people yesterday, and had this done with. 8 hours ago, Jason said: @AbsolutSurgen Yup. People are even more frustrated that Justin still hasn't done anything about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 Cops don't like the coverage they are getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Well maybe don't suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 10 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: That's pretty hyperbolic about his legacy. He's more likely to be remembered for the childcare program and the carbon levy, long-term. Oh, and the creation of independent senators. 10 hours ago, silentbob said: and for Marijuana Legalization. Still needs improvements in the legal markets, like by allowing edibles to be greater then their max 10mg. Especially with what the illegal market offers pretty easily still Lol maybe to a few of his superfans. To the rest of the world it will be this. The weakest little PM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Lol maybe to a few of his superfans. To the rest of the world it will be this. The weakest little PM. The rest of the world doesn’t care about Canadian politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Shocker, after years of left wing hatred against cops worldwide, most have moved further right than ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, BloodyHell said: Shocker, after years of left wing hatred against cops worldwide, most have moved further right than ever. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, BloodyHell said: Shocker, after years of left wing hatred against cops worldwide, most have moved further right than ever. After years of Black people not showing enough respect, most cops have become more racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: After years of Black people not showing enough respect, most cops have become more racist? And im supposed to take random Twitter guy at his word. Got it. No video, a twitter post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaysWho? Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I'm confused by the thread right now. Police have been amazing and are watching our back, but police are also arresting them and breaking up the blockade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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