Kal-El814 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Amazing that even chud protestors cannot complete the Find Something that Cryptobros Won't Make Worse Challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uaarkson Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: It is done. I love you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Fire every person employed by the OPS and bring in the OPP to police the city. The entire department needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Protestors: The media is saying we are bad people, and we aren't Protestors: "The media is going to learn a very harsh lesson" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Neat, now two major trade crossings (including the largest on the Canada-US border) are blocked. Protesters block Highway 402 section to Sarnia bridge crossing to U.S. as Ambassador Bridge rally into 3rd day | CBC News WWW.CBC.CA Two major southwestern Ontario bridges — in Windsor and Sarnia — that are key entries to the U.S. are tied up by protests against pandemic mandates. Ambassador Bridge traffic has been... Like...arrest them all. This will cost both countries tens of millions of dollars per day at a minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CitizenVectron Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 The protests have nothing to do with vaccines. This is about a far-right takeover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Lol NYT at it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Quebec Liberal MP Robillard also breaks ranks, questions Trudeau government’s handling of pandemic, sides with Lightbound WWW.HILLTIMES.COM Three-term Quebec Liberal MP Yves Robillard says he wants Chief Government Whip Steven MacKinnon to apologize to him for dropping him from the House National Defence Committee and sending an email to all Liberal MPs about it. Second Liberal MP breaks ranks. Quote “He [Lightbound] said exactly what a lot of us think,” said Liberal MP Yves Robillard (Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, Que.) in an interview with The Hill Times. “I agree with everything that Lightbound said.” .... Robillard said that he’s not worried even if he’s kicked out of the caucus. He said there are more MPs in the caucus “who’ve just had enough” and “are not going to pass the rest of our mandate like that,” but did not get into details, except to say he will speak up more frequently on issues that are on his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Fire every person employed by the OPS and bring in the OPP to police the city. The entire department needs to go. The OPP isn't as big as you think it is -- it's only about 5,500 officers province wide. And they don't have jurisdiction in Ottawa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thewhyteboar Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: The protests have nothing to do with vaccines. This is about a far-right takeover. A core tenet of right-wing belief is that they should hold unlimited power, regardless of what the majority wants. Conservatives believe that they should be free to install their Christian-fascism even if they lose the election because of course, any vote for a non-conservative party is invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 We just have to be more polite to these innocent people! There is a decent chance that this could result in the long-term job loss of thousands of people. At this point I am 100% okay with Trudeau getting border patrol and RCMP to do a sweep of the bridges and border crossings and take these people all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 hours ago, thewhyteboar said: A core tenet of right-wing belief is that they should hold unlimited power, regardless of what the majority wants. Conservatives believe that they should be free to install their Christian-fascism even if they lose the election because of course, any vote for a non-conservative party is invalid. Frank Wilhoit was correct about the conservative perspective on this… There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 No one looks good ATM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 A core tenet of both right-wing and left-wing extremists is that their POV should trump what the majority wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Freedom Convoy: How might Canada's trucker protest end? WWW.BBC.COM There is no easy way to end the blockade in Canada's capital by truckers opposed to vaccine mandates. Quote "A lot of towing companies consider themselves truck drivers as well," he explained. According to him, even large to mid-sized towing companies might own five wreckers at most, often at hefty price tags ranging from $300,000 (£221,000) to $1m, so smaller companies are likely to avoid a hostile situation that could damage their expensive equipment. Further logistical difficulties arise from the sheer number of vehicles involved in these protests. They can weigh 20-30 tonnes depending on the load. Each truck requires its own wrecker and hooking up a wrecker to a truck takes about an hour, assuming the driver is present and co-operating. "If the trucker is not co-operative, it probably takes an extra 15 minutes or half hour because you don't have access to the cab, the inside of the truck," said Mr Rowland. A towing company would have to be insane to drive a half-million dollar wrecker into an active protest, and spend more than an hour to hook up each truck. The military has heavy duty towing equipment -- for times when tanks or other large military equipment breaks. Given the large number of military bases within a few hours of Ottawa, I am sure several could be made available. So far, none have been made available to the Ottawa police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: No one looks good ATM. I, too, disapprove of the Liberal response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: A core tenet of both right-wing and left-wing extremists is that their POV should trump what the majority wants. As a left-wing extremist, I have no argument with that notion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Doxx the truckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: A core tenet of both right-wing and left-wing extremists is that their POV should trump what the majority wants. Except we don't have left-wing people blocking border crossings for days, closing down entire blocks for weeks, and threatening the press and politicians and doctors in the street. The number of right-wing extremists in this country vastly dwarfs left-wing. Also, while it's true that the Liberal response isn't popular...it's because they aren't cracking down. Like, you can't take a poll of 1939 Europe and be like "Hitler and Chamberlain are equally unpopular in the UK!" when one is hated for what he is doing and the other is disliked for not stopping the other person. It's not equivalent. Also for anyone who wants to see more of who these people are and how crazy they are: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 Shutting down the airport now: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 These people aren't leaving on their own volition. Their protests will keep expanding if they are not stopped. It takes thousands of people on foot to block a bridge, but only a dozen trucks. If all governments in Canada today gave in and said "fine, back to 2019!" these people would just move to the next goal. Probably something about protecting kids from some batshit theory. Then if that was done, they'd change again, to something about how 5G is in hamburger buns. It's time to just arrest anyone who refuses to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 If this was a left wing movement trying for something like a general strike you’d bet the forces that be would have already cracked down and cracked skulls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Except we don't have left-wing people blocking border crossings for days, closing down entire blocks for weeks, and threatening the press and politicians and doctors in the street. The number of right-wing extremists in this country vastly dwarfs left-wing. Also, while it's true that the Liberal response isn't popular...it's because they aren't cracking down. Like, you can't take a poll of 1939 Europe and be like "Hitler and Chamberlain are equally unpopular in the UK!" when one is hated for what he is doing and the other is disliked for not stopping the other person. It's not equivalent. Also for anyone who wants to see more of who these people are and how crazy they are: We have had lots of protests in the past that have caused problems from all parts of the political spectrum. People are frustrated with Trudeau's response, because he is essentially doing nothing. We are both dissatisfied with his lack of action, and we both want him to do something. The fact that we have different views on what his exact approach should be is irrelevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: If this was a left wing movement trying for something like a general strike you’d bet the forces that be would have already cracked down and cracked skulls The only east-west railway in Canada was closed for 18 days before the police raided the encampment in 2020. That railway is significantly more vital to Canada than Wellington Street in Ottawa is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: The only east-west railway in Canada was closed for 18 days before the police raided the encampment in 2020. That railway is significantly more vital to Canada than Wellington Street in Ottawa is. Hi I’m the ambassador bridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 Ambassador Bridge blockade is far, far worse than the rail blockade. And the causes are so entirely different on the moral spectrum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 Another difference is that this illegal blockade is supported by conservative governments/politicians in Canada. And the current leader of the federal Conservative Party said she wants the protests to continue so that they become an issue for Trudeau. They are 100% fine with tens of thousands of jobs (and hundreds of millions of dollars) being lost if it means Trudeau becoming unpopular. It's because they (all conservative parties in Canada) don't actually care about anything except sticking it to liberals. That's their ideology, now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Canada’s “Freedom Convoy” Is a Front for a Right-Wing, Anti-Worker Agenda JACOBINMAG.COM Workers in Canada’s trucking industry have suffered during the pandemic. The “Freedom Convoy,” a right-wing, pro-business social movement, purports itself to be the people’s champion of liberty — yet it couldn't care less about the hardships and burdens of its fellow workers. Quote The so-called “Freedom Convoy” of truckers currently occupying Canada’s capital city claims to be a broad people’s movement concerned with the plight of workers — specifically truckers — who have suffered throughout the pandemic. The convoy has received plaudits from the likes of Elon Musk and Jordan Peterson, sympathetic coverage from conservative media, and acclaim from some Canadian members of parliament. The Freedom Convoy’s GoFundMe has thus far raised $10 million in donations. Despite this wide recognition and support, the convoy presents itself as a scrappy coalition of working people who, fed up with the hardship they have undergone, are now speaking truth to power. But a closer look at key “Freedom Convoy” participants reveals that many of the concerns of the protesters have little to do with workers’ rights or labor issues within Canada’s trucking industry. In fact, Convoy organizers have previously harassed workers on the picket line and ignored calls for support from racialized truckers fighting against wage theft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Hi I’m the ambassador bridge 3 days vs. 18 days 29 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Ambassador Bridge blockade is far, far worse than the rail blockade. And the causes are so entirely different on the moral spectrum. Why? IMHO, they are/were both equally terrible. In a free country, it should be the actions of the protestors that is more important rather than some moral judgement of the worthiness of their cause. FWIW, I don't see any moral justification to block a railway in support of a dispute about a natural gas pipeline that is 5,000 km away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 That's certainly a better article than this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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