Canadian Insurrection | UPDATE - Oversight commission rules invocation of Emergency Act by Trudeau was warranted

[CitizenVectron]

 

So it's about vaccine mandates...except it's also about overthrowing the government, being anti-vaxx, and also about rounding up and killing journalists, of course.

[CitizenVectron]

Oh and this batshit insane letter is going around with these type of people in order to overthrow the government. Notice, however, how it's all spelt in American grammar:

 

 

[CitizenVectron]

And in the meantime, millions of dollars of illegal US dark money continues to pour into Canada through that Christian fundraising site, with some donations as large as $250,000 US. Make no mistake, this is 100% an attempt by the American right to destabilize Canada.

[thewhyteboar]

1 minute ago, CitizenVectron said:

Oh and this batshit insane letter is going around with these type of people in order to overthrow the government. Notice, however, how it's all spelt in American grammar:

 

 

You mean Freedom Grammar.

[CitizenVectron]

 

[CitizenVectron]

 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

Outside of the right wing media sphere this is not really covered at all

[SuperSpreader]

6 hours ago, Jason said:

 

 

 

 

Oh please, like he everyone doesn't depend on them. Idiot.

[SuperSpreader]

32 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

And in the meantime, millions of dollars of illegal US dark money continues to pour into Canada through that Christian fundraising site, with some donations as large as $250,000 US. Make no mistake, this is 100% an attempt by the American right to destabilize Canada.

We Russia 

[CitizenVectron]

 

 

It's almost like the entire thing is just about being filled with rage, and not about any rational cause or goal.

[Jwheel86]

2 hours ago, CitizenVectron said:

And in the meantime, millions of dollars of illegal US dark money continues to pour into Canada through that Christian fundraising site, with some donations as large as $250,000 US. Make no mistake, this is 100% an attempt by the American right to destabilize Canada.

 

Canada can request extradite from the US, correct? Canada, you are our Siberia. 

[AbsolutSurgen]

Protesters block traffic for 2nd day at Ambassador Bridge international crossing | CBC News

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Protestors have blocked traffic to the Ambassador Bridge for the second day in a row. The international border crossing, which links Windsor, Ont., to Detroit, is a major commercial route between the two countries.

 

The problem with escalating these kind of protests, are that they will spread.

[AbsolutSurgen]

The head of the LPC quebec caucus today:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SuperSpreader]

These truckers aren't hurting because of mandates. 

 

[CitizenVectron]

7 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said:

These truckers aren't hurting because of mandates. 

 

 

Exactly. The head of the trucking association today said that it hasn't been an issue—anyone not vaccinated has simply been re-assigned to interprovincial runs rather than international.

[CitizenVectron]

16 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

Protesters block traffic for 2nd day at Ambassador Bridge international crossing | CBC News

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Protestors have blocked traffic to the Ambassador Bridge for the second day in a row. The international border crossing, which links Windsor, Ont., to Detroit, is a major commercial route between the two countries.

 

The problem with escalating these kind of protests, are that they will spread.

 

That's...not a good take. It's like saying you shouldn't confront people because they might do something even worse. That's just giving in to idiots. 

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

5 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

That's...not a good take. It's like saying you shouldn't confront people because they might do something even worse. That's just giving in to idiots. 

Also they’re already clearly spreading

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

17 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

The head of the LPC quebec caucus today:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“She doesn’t look like a white supremacist she’s a grandma” man you Canadians really need to learn your American history given that we’re exporting our assholes north apparently 

[AbsolutSurgen]

27 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

That's...not a good take. It's like saying you shouldn't confront people because they might do something even worse. That's just giving in to idiots. 

That is not hat I am saying.

 

I am saying if you trying to be a leader, and care, say about the results rather than virtue signaling.  You don't instigate them into escalating their protests.  Belittling them, and refusing to have dialog, will just result in things getting worse -- not better.

[Jason]

47 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

The head of the LPC quebec caucus today:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CitizenVectron]

12 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

That is not hat I am saying.

 

I am saying if you trying to be a leader, and care, say about the results rather than virtue signaling.  You don't instigate them into escalating their protests.  Belittling them, and refusing to have dialog, will just result in things getting worse -- not better.

 

I think it's pretty clear that the hardcore protestors in Ottawa are going to do what they're going to do, regardless of anything Trudeau or others say. I mean...they actually believe a petition can get the GG to just throw out the democratically elected government. They could be ignored or confronted with riot police, and they're going to respond the same way: constant batshit escalation of their own tactics until they get their way (which is to overthrow a government, hang journalists, etc).

[CitizenVectron]

While I agree that Trudeau should take a tougher stance verbally on the protestors, Ford is the one who could actually do something (but so far isn't):

 

 

[AbsolutSurgen]

Just now, CitizenVectron said:

 

I think it's pretty clear that the hardcore protestors in Ottawa are going to do what they're going to do, regardless of anything Trudeau or others say. I mean...they actually believe a petition can get the GG to just throw out the democratically elected government. They could be ignored or confronted with riot police, and they're going to respond the same way: constant batshit escalation of their own tactics until they get their way (which is to overthrow a government, hang journalists, etc).

It's the 3.8 - 11 million people (depending if you believe their support is 10-30%) that you're worried about.  300 truckers is manageable, a protest of several hundred thousand, or dozens of encampments and blockades isn't.

[chakoo]

If you have to go with "I saw a grandma, she couldn't be a racist" then you have no valid point to give.

 

One time I was in a canadian tire in DT toronto and an old white women in a wheelchair angrily gave my chinese wife & mother in law the finger for no reason other than her being a racist POS. We never talked or interacted with the person, we were just simply happen to be looking at items in the same area of the store. 

[chakoo]

 

But ya know. We need to let everybody be held hostage to the whims of a small minority.

[CitizenVectron]

16 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said:

It's the 3.8 - 11 million people (depending if you believe their support is 10-30%) that you're worried about.  300 truckers is manageable, a protest of several hundred thousand, or dozens of encampments and blockades isn't.

 

I don't think we are at anywhere near the point of hundreds of thousands protesting, especially since most provinces are starting to ease up on restrictions (SK and AB announcing today the lifting of all measures of the next few weeks, etc).

 

As for the Quebec MP:

 

 

1. That's an absolutely fair point—these things should be tied to some metric (preferably hospital capacity, etc)
2. Only if it coincides with #1. Otherwise, as stated by the actual trucking industry, the mandate is not having any impact on jobs. No one has lost a trucking job because of it, they've simply been reassigned to Canadian routes if they were previously cross-border
3. I mean...okay. The rationale is that mandates encourage people to get their shots, and to make it harder to spread the virus. The second point is less important now that Omicron escapes immunity, but it isn't not important. However, this information is already out there and well-accepted
4. I agree! But, unrelated to this issue
5. That's a dumb point because anything can divide Canadians. Increase restrictions, you piss of the anti-vaxxers (and others). Decrease them, you piss of the majority. Those lines are more blurred now...but Canada isn't really divided on the issue of vaccination. On current restrictions, yes, but those aren't decided by the federal government

 

[CitizenVectron]

 

So, to be clear, this mall (and the 1,500 people it employs) has been shut down for two weeks now. Are the protestors going to use their fundraising money to support these people?

 

[CitizenVectron]

 

 

If Trudeau right now dropped the cross-border trucker vaccine mandate (which of course would have no effect, since the US still has a mandate), the horn honkers (I like that term) wouldn't go home. They want Trudeau deposed, this isn't about the mandate.

[chakoo]

Point #2 does not matter because the US still has the restriction on their side. So removing it means **** all for the current situation.

[b_m_b_m_b_m]

12 minutes ago, chakoo said:

Point #2 does not matter because the US still has the restriction on their side. So removing it means **** all for the current situation.

They’re working on this side of the border to get a similar set of actions going across this country

[AbsolutSurgen]

10 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said:

 

I don't think we are at anywhere near the point of hundreds of thousands protesting, especially since most provinces are starting to ease up on restrictions (SK and AB announcing today the lifting of all measures of the next few weeks, etc).

 

As for the Quebec MP:

 

 

1. That's an absolutely fair point—these things should be tied to some metric (preferably hospital capacity, etc)
2. Only if it coincides with #1. Otherwise, as stated by the actual trucking industry, the mandate is not having any impact on jobs. No one has lost a trucking job because of it, they've simply been reassigned to Canadian routes if they were previously cross-border
3. I mean...okay. The rationale is that mandates encourage people to get their shots, and to make it harder to spread the virus. The second point is less important now that Omicron escapes immunity, but it isn't not important. However, this information is already out there and well-accepted
4. I agree! But, unrelated to this issue
5. That's a dumb point because anything can divide Canadians. Increase restrictions, you piss of the anti-vaxxers (and others). Decrease them, you piss of the majority. Those lines are more blurred now...but Canada isn't really divided on the issue of vaccination. On current restrictions, yes, but those aren't decided by the federal government

 

I didn't say we were at that point -- we don't want to get to that point.  Instigation has turned it from a relatively small protest (that was mishandled by Ottawa police) into a larger protest on the second weekend, cross-country protests in multiple cities the following weekend, and now an additional border crossing (and the biggest one) is now blockaded.

 

Whether we like it or not, somewhere close to 30% of our country aligns with the truckers.  Calling them racists (some are, some aren't), calling them a fringe minority, belittling them, etc. increases those divisions.  All that does is further entrench those folks in their position -- which is the opposite of what he should be trying to do.

[chakoo]

27 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said:

They’re working on this side of the border to get a similar set of actions going across this country

 

Yep, and I can see the US side being more receptive of it but I also don't really see biden backing down on the rules in the near future. Specially when the trucking industry is saying it's not really a problem.

[stepee]

lollllll

[CitizenVectron]

 

[chakoo]

The Real Enemy for Truckers is Covid-19 | Teamsters Canada

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Support the truckers. no wait not those ones, the anti-vax ones.