Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 26 minutes ago, TwinIon said: While I continue to think that this won't have a serious effect on the industry, I won't consider it a good thing. At least we got a bunch of emails and other documents. It'll be interesting to see what acquisitions this deal kicks off. Sony will definitely respond, but will we see consolidation outside of the console manufacturers? Does EA or Ubisoft feel a need to build up their own "content moat"? Is there any real possibility that other tech giants start buying up gaming studios? I'm dubious that much will change, but maybe the market does shift in response. didn’t EA already announce plans to separate their EA Sports from the rest of the EA development? That seems like the opposite of consolidation, but they still could buy up more smaller and independent studios, like they had in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: didn’t EA already announce plans to separate their EA Sports from the rest of the EA development? That seems like the opposite of consolidation, but they still could buy up more smaller and independent studios, like they had in the past. It was merely a change in internal management structure, nothing more than that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 This was the obvious outcome from Day 1. I know this isn’t great for the industry and a lot of people will probably lose a job, but Game Pass is gonna be 🔥. Stack up on those game pass cards now before that price hike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I better trade in my CoD games while their trade in value is still high 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Per Tom Warren: Quote Microsoft and the CMA have agreed on a small divestiture to address the regulator’s concerns, CNBC’s David Faber reported." Any such divestiture will be related to cloud gaming in the UK, so it’ll be interesting to see what has been agreed here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 27 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Per Tom Warren: RIP Crash Bandicoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: RIP Crash Bandicoot He’ll live so that Banjo can stay dead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Get it done with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remarkableriots Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 FTC Reportedly Leaning Towards an Appeal of Microsoft's Activision Blizzard Win - IGN WWW.IGN.COM The U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is reportedly considering filing an appeal against Microsoft's Activision Blizzard court win on July 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Quote News: The FTC has filed a notice to appeal Judge Corley's ruling denying the agency a preliminary injunction against Microsoft closing its Activision acquisition. This process would have to move quickly as the temporary restraining order against the deal is set to expire Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firewithin Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Lol so they almost never appeal things and are doing it for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Quote The FTC's Wikipedia page was briefly vandalized tonight to replace its flag with a PlayStation logo among other Sony reference. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 ABK to be removed from the NASDAQ-100 index on Monday. The Trade Desk, Inc. to Join the Nasdaq-100 Index Beginning July 17th, 2023 WWW.GLOBENEWSWIRE.COM NEW YORK, July 12, 2023 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Nasdaq (Nasdaq: NDAQ) today announced that The Trade Desk, Inc. (Nasdaq: TTD), will become a component of the... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Apparently this is in Microsoft's response to the FTC: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Apparently this is in Microsoft's response to the FTC: I love that ? for Sony post merger. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, crispy4000 said: Apparently this is in Microsoft's response to the FTC: It is. The respective MSFT and FTC "findings of fact" can be found here: MSFT: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.413969/gov.uscourts.cand.413969.306.0.pdf FTC: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.413969/gov.uscourts.cand.413969.309.0.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 If the appeals court does not grant a Temporary Restraining Order to the FTC by Friday night, I have little doubt that the acquisition will be executed in every jurisdiction except the UK on Monday morning. For the UK, I can see this scenario in the interim while the CMA re-examines MSFT's revised concession: - Each current ABK shareholder will receive a certain number of shares of a newly-created entity that we'll call "ABK-UK" - Bobby Kotick will remain as CEO of ABK-UK - MSFT will license to ABK-UK the right to develop/distribute/market/etc. for perpetuity in the UK all intellectual property that was once owned by the now non-existent ABK entity - ABK-UK will pay royalties back to MSFT for that perpetual license - This arrangement will exist until MSFT and the CMA come to an agreement at which point MSFT will acquire the ABK-UK entity in a stock swap In effect, for at least some time, Activision-Blizzard would continue to exist as an independent entity with Kotick as its CEO in the UK only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: If the appeals court does not grant a Temporary Restraining Order to the FTC by Friday night, I have little doubt that the acquisition will be executed in every jurisdiction except the UK on Monday morning. For the UK, I can see this scenario in the interim while the CMA re-examines MSFT's revised concession: - Each current ABK shareholder will receive a certain number of shares of a newly-created entity that we'll call "ABK-UK" - Bobby Kotick will remain as CEO of ABK-UK - MSFT will license to ABK-UK the right to develop/distribute/market/etc. for perpetuity in the UK all intellectual property that was once owned by the now non-existent ABK entity - ABK-UK will pay royalties back to MSFT for that perpetual license - This arrangement will exist until MSFT and the CMA come to an agreement at which point MSFT will acquire the ABK-UK entity in a stock swap In effect, for at least some time, Activision-Blizzard would continue to exist as an independent entity with Kotick as its CEO in the UK only. couldn’t they also just pull all ABK business out of the UK forcing anyone there to either use a VPN or import games, regardless of platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 32 minutes ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: couldn’t they also just pull all ABK business out of the UK forcing anyone there to either use a VPN or import games, regardless of platform? That would be the equivalent of cutting off your nose to spite your face. That's an absolute non-starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Spawn_of_Apathy said: couldn’t they also just pull all ABK business out of the UK forcing anyone there to either use a VPN or import games, regardless of platform? They still want their revenue from the UK. Why give it up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: They still want their revenue from the UK. Why give it up? To cause a revolution. It shall be called "the dorito wars: sponsored by mountain dew" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I’m not saying they would, just asking if they could. so is this really how much of these merger approvals go. The companies don’t really need approval unless if they don’t restructure the company being purchased? 13 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: They still want their revenue from the UK. Why give it up? Just temporary to apply political pressure. It’s not like they’d lose all those sales. Many would still buy digitally but with a VPN. So MS would still get their money, but the UK government wouldn’t get their taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Judge Crowley has denied the FTC's motion to stay her original ruling denying the preliminary injunction pending appeal. The FTC's appeal is now with the 9th Circuit's appellate panel. The FTC will be seeking "emergency relief" in the form of an extension of the TRO to block the transaction beyond tomorrow night's expiration just before midnight Pacific time. The FTC is unlikely to be granted the TRO which means that MSFT/ABK will be clear to complete the acquisition in the US and EU. Bloomberg is reporting that an agreement has been reached with the UK CMA as described below: Quote Microsoft Corp. and Activision Blizzard Inc. are considering giving up some control of their cloud-gaming business in the UK as a way to appease regulators so they can complete their $69 billion merger by the July 18 deadline, according to people familiar with the matter. That could involve selling off the cloud-based market rights for games in the UK to a telecommunications, gaming or internet-based computing company, said the people, who asked not to be named discussing confidential planning. A private equity company might also be interested, said one person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Judge Crowley has denied the FTC's motion to stay her original ruling denying the preliminary injunction pending appeal. The FTC's appeal is now with the 9th Circuit's appellate panel. The FTC will be seeking "emergency relief" in the form of an extension of the TRO to block the transaction beyond tomorrow night's expiration just before midnight Pacific time. The FTC is unlikely to be granted the TRO which means that MSFT/ABK will be clear to complete the acquisition in the US and EU. Bloomberg is reporting that an agreement has been reached with the UK CMA as described below: At what point is the FTC making a complete waste of tax payer money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share Posted July 14, 2023 I actually don't think it is a good thing, but it's fun to shit on sony. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Judge Crowley has denied the FTC's motion to stay her original ruling denying the preliminary injunction pending appeal. The FTC's appeal is now with the 9th Circuit's appellate panel. The FTC will be seeking "emergency relief" in the form of an extension of the TRO to block the transaction beyond tomorrow night's expiration just before midnight Pacific time. The FTC is unlikely to be granted the TRO which means that MSFT/ABK will be clear to complete the acquisition in the US and EU. Bloomberg is reporting that an agreement has been reached with the UK CMA as described below: Sell it to Michaelsoft, ran by Gill Bates. No one will be any the wiser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 56 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: Sell it to Michaelsoft, ran by Gill Bates. No one will be any the wiser. Isn't that the company that sells Chinese bootleg copies of windows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Isn't that the company that sells Chinese bootleg copies of windows? No, it's a pun, actually! For a used PC shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPCyric Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Bacon said: I actually don't think it is a good thing, but it's fun to shit on sony. I actually think this merger is a net positive for the industry and gamers for the following reasons: 1. Activision/Blizzard has been a bad working environment for a while now and especially with the recent failure of Redfall Microsoft will want to improve the work culture. 2. Microsoft has other studios making them money they aren't in a situation where they need to pump out Call of Duty every year to survive. 3. All those unused Activision IP's have an opportunity to be used now. 4. With development freed up where a Call of Duty isn't needed every year development studios can work on other things so employees won't be burned out doing the same game over and over again. 5. This forces Sony to be a bit more competitive if they wanted they could make their own Call of Duty but that isn't necessary. However maybe now they will be more careful when launching stuff and not supporting it (ala PSVR2 and the Vita)... maybe just maybe PS+ will be improved as well which is a benefit for Playstation owners. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Industry consolidation is usually only beneficial to the big players in the industry. And virtually never for the end consumer. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, DPCyric said: I actually think this merger is a net positive for the industry and gamers for the following reasons: 1. Activision/Blizzard has been a bad working environment for a while now and especially with the recent failure of Redfall Microsoft will want to improve the work culture. 2. Microsoft has other studios making them money they aren't in a situation where they need to pump out Call of Duty every year to survive. 3. All those unused Activision IP's have an opportunity to be used now. 4. With development freed up where a Call of Duty isn't needed every year development studios can work on other things so employees won't be burned out doing the same game over and over again. 5. This forces Sony to be a bit more competitive if they wanted they could make their own Call of Duty but that isn't necessary. However maybe now they will be more careful when launching stuff and not supporting it (ala PSVR2 and the Vita)... maybe just maybe PS+ will be improved as well which is a benefit for Playstation owners. The only thing that's true is no5. Sony needs to come up with a solution. Everything else is gamers drinking the Kool aid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 9 minutes ago, AbsolutSurgen said: Industry consolidation is usually only beneficial to the big players in the industry. And virtually never for the end consumer. Counterpoint: The streaming nightmare we all live in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 29 minutes ago, DPCyric said: I actually think this merger is a net positive for the industry and gamers for the following reasons: 1. Activision/Blizzard has been a bad working environment for a while now and especially with the recent failure of Redfall Microsoft will want to improve the work culture. 2. Microsoft has other studios making them money they aren't in a situation where they need to pump out Call of Duty every year to survive. 3. All those unused Activision IP's have an opportunity to be used now. 4. With development freed up where a Call of Duty isn't needed every year development studios can work on other things so employees won't be burned out doing the same game over and over again. 5. This forces Sony to be a bit more competitive if they wanted they could make their own Call of Duty but that isn't necessary. However maybe now they will be more careful when launching stuff and not supporting it (ala PSVR2 and the Vita)... maybe just maybe PS+ will be improved as well which is a benefit for Playstation owners. 1- Microsoft who has laid off over TEN THOUSAND this year is gonna fix Activision? Get real. 2- They bought it for COD they're gonna milk it all they can. 3- The same shit that happened to Rare IPs is gonna happen to Activision ones. 4- This isn't how corporations think. 4- Yes, Sony needs a solution. Second post to add details. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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