Keyser_Soze Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 11 hours ago, SuperSpreader said: That seems shortsighted Blizzard is their least profitable division and has the lowest operating margin of the three, and they don't really provide any strategic value given all of the other 'core' developers that Microsoft has acquired (such as Bethesda). They are the most expendable part of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 48 minutes ago, Chris- said: Blizzard is their least profitable division and has the lowest operating margin of the three, and they don't really provide any strategic value given all of the other 'core' developers that Microsoft has acquired (such as Bethesda). They are the most expendable part of the deal. Yeah but they have more than 1 franchise, cod can't be huge forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, SuperSpreader said: Yeah but they have more than 1 franchise, cod can't be huge forever Activision has a ton of IP too it just so happens they are run by stupid apes who only want to make COD games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, Keyser_Soze said: Activision has a ton of IP too it just so happens they are run by stupid apes who only want to make COD games. That's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 God please don’t spin Blizzard off to EA. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Brian said: God please don’t spin Blizzard off to EA. Oh they'll definitely fuck it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, Brian said: God please don’t spin Blizzard off to EA. Would be better than Ubisoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The EU regulators have taken the very unusual step of directly responding the part of the FTC filing that referenced their discussions with Microsoft regarding the Zenimax acqusition: Quote In a weird turn of events, the EU states to MLex that Microsoft actually never offered concessions for the Bethesda agreement. "Microsoft didn't make any commitments to EU regulators not to release Xbox-exclusive content following its takeover of ZeniMax Media"." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DPCyric Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 hours ago, SuperSpreader said: Oh they'll definitely fuck it up EA has done great with Respawn if Diablo IV does well I could see them going for a light touch with Blizzard. Granted I would still much rather see them with Microsoft imagine a Heroes of the Storm revival with all M$ characters available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 With the FTC suing here, it makes me wonder if Adobe knows where all the bodies are buried. Did someone accidentally upload the pictures to Creative Cloud. They should never have been allowed to buy Figma. That acquisition is exponentially worse than even if Microsoft decided to keep CoD exclusive to Xbox and Game Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 FTC looking pretty stupid if they are basing their decision on something the EU said was false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn_of_Apathy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 2:27 PM, Dodger said: Yeah that’s what I’ve seen as well. Fuck I was really hoping not to spend $70 on Diablo IV. I might have even tried to get into CoD if it was “free” on games pass. same for me exactly. On 12/8/2022 at 3:38 PM, Dodger said: I have seen comments that part of the CMC concern was over cloud gaming and Games Pass. Not sure what MS could with with cloud stuff other than just not do it, or cancel their Samsung deal to have Xcloud on their tvs. Games Pass shouldn't be any concern, Sony has more PS+ subscribers and it's their own choice they don't put first party games into the service. yeah, it’s not that Sony can’t compete with GamePass. They REFUSE to. Also, Sony’s not worried about losing the COD gamer to Xbox. They’re concerned with losing the licensing fee for each copy of COD sold. They’re trying to either kill the deal to keep the revenue flowing, or extort a concession where MS/Activision is legally required to pay Sony 30% without any risk or cost to Sony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Ghost_MH said: With the FTC suing here, it makes me wonder if Adobe knows where all the bodies are buried. Did someone accidentally upload the pictures to Creative Cloud. They should never have been allowed to buy Figma. That acquisition is exponentially worse than even if Microsoft decided to keep CoD exclusive to Xbox and Game Pass. I totally agree. It's bizarre that the Figma purchase hasn't gotten more scrutiny. Figma was Adobe's only real competition in that space, and they seemed like they had the potential to challenge adobe on other fronts as well. For them to be acquired and just have Figma just become the Adobe product is a terrible outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_MH Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, TwinIon said: I totally agree. It's bizarre that the Figma purchase hasn't gotten more scrutiny. Figma was Adobe's only real competition in that space, and they seemed like they had the potential to challenge adobe on other fronts as well. For them to be acquired and just have Figma just become the Adobe product is a terrible outcome. Figma was in the middle of pivoting its rapid growth into challenging Adobe in more areas...and then Adobe dropped some $20b on them and now they're only real competitor in this space is gone. Are we supposed to believe Adobe is planning to continue developing Figma alongside Adobe Xd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinIon Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 7:49 PM, Ghost_MH said: Figma was in the middle of pivoting its rapid growth into challenging Adobe in more areas...and then Adobe dropped some $20b on them and now they're only real competitor in this space is gone. Are we supposed to believe Adobe is planning to continue developing Figma alongside Adobe Xd? My understanding is that Adobe is going to more or less halt development of Xd and make Figma their primary or only product in the space, at least once the sale goes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Figma suuucks Everyone who I've worked with who used it is a hack who can't deliver results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Microsoft reportedly offered Sony the option to put Call of Duty on PlayStation Plus WWW.EUROGAMER.NET Microsoft reportedly offered Sony the option to add Call of Duty to its PlayStation Plus subscription service as part o… No word on the terms of it. (ie: if/how much Sony would have to pay, if releases would be simultaneous with Games Pass, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Microsoft Exec Says Xbox's Activision Deal Is Fair Because PlayStation Has Way More Exclusives - IGN WWW.IGN.COM Microsoft president and vice chairman Brad Smith has said Xbox's acquisition of Activision Blizzard is fair because PlayStation has significantly more exclusive games. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 MS just needs to make a case to the ftc how incompetent their game studio management is! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, stepee said: MS just needs to make a case to the ftc how incompetent their game studio management is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 I'm still waiting for Halo: Doom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bacon said: I'm still waiting for Halo: Doom I would definitly play a Halo/Doom mash-up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr.Vic20 said: I would definitly play a Halo/Doom mash-up! I just want to want to play a Halo game again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Microsoft Exec Says Xbox's Activision Deal Is Fair Because PlayStation Has Way More Exclusives - IGN WWW.IGN.COM Microsoft president and vice chairman Brad Smith has said Xbox's acquisition of Activision Blizzard is fair because PlayStation has significantly more exclusive games. Sounds like a misinformed exec misreading a cheat sheet from the lawyers. Buying Activision Blizzard isn’t going to mean just one more exclusive. I’d also like to know if their list of Sony exclusives includes Jumping Flash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Video gamers sue Microsoft in U.S. court to stop Activision takeover WWW.REUTERS.COM Microsoft Corp was hit on Tuesday in U.S. court with a private consumer lawsuit claiming the technology company's $69 billion bid to purchase "Call of Duty" maker Activision Blizzard Inc will unlawfully squelch competition in the video game industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 I would love nothing more than permanent damage to all these brands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 1 minute ago, SuperSpreader said: I would love nothing more than permanent damage to all these brands. Isn't that already done? If this deal doesn't go through then Bobby stays and probably the toxicity along with the company. If anything this deal not going through makes Microsoft look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Honestly blows my mind that gamers want ActiBlizz to be in charge of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser_Soze Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: Honestly blows my mind that gamers want ActiBlizz to be in charge of anything. Only 10 of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpreader Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 38 minutes ago, cusideabelincoln said: Honestly blows my mind that gamers want ActiBlizz to be in charge of anything. Break em all up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaethos Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Keyser_Soze said: Video gamers sue Microsoft in U.S. court to stop Activision takeover WWW.REUTERS.COM Microsoft Corp was hit on Tuesday in U.S. court with a private consumer lawsuit claiming the technology company's $69 billion bid to purchase "Call of Duty" maker Activision Blizzard Inc will unlawfully squelch competition in the video game industry. The Hoeg Law video on this was great. It's a terribly put together mess of a lawsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Microsoft and Activision have responded to the FTC's complaint using a "Good Cop/Bad Cop" routine. Microsoft's "Good Cop" response (37 pages) Summary: "We're the third-place console platform holder and this acquisition won't materially change that at all. We also have no presence in the fastest-growing mobile gaming market. It's not our fault that the dominant market participant hasn't accepted our generous proposals and is engaging in anti-consumer behavior, etc. etc." Activison's "Bad Cop" response (35 pages) Summary: "OLOLOLOLOLOLO - EAT SHIT AND DIE, FTC! THIS COMPLAINT IS BASELESS, IDEOLOGICALLY-DRIVEN BULLSHIT THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LEGAL LEG TO STAND ON IN COURT AND DEFIES ECONOMIC REALITY, YOU FUCKING DIMWITS! SUCK OUR COD-LOVING ASS!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted December 24, 2022 Share Posted December 24, 2022 After consideration, the contrasting "Good Cop/Bad Cop" tones between the MS and ABK responses to the FTC complaint seem reflective of their respective relationships with the federal government. One company (MS) has long-standing contractual relationships with the federal government and is perennially in the hunt to enhance and expand those opportunities which could lead to a more "conservative" posture. The other company (ABK) really has no such interests and therefore can be more "aggressive" in its defense of the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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