Jason Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 12 hours ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Because they’ve bought textualism whole cloth like a bunch of morons. It’s a conservative framework that came out of the post Roe world in conservative circles. Without the basis of substantive due process (the basis of Roe) you effectively have no rights, without it is legal formalism and maybe procedural due process where the government can do whatever the hell it wants as long as they do the right paperwork (they can but that should not be the basis of our supposedly free and democratic government). what substantive due process says is that there are some rights that the government cannot regulate, enumerated or not. Taking the 4th, 5th, 9th, and 14th amendments into consideration it is clear to see that there is an unstated right to privacy protected by the constitution. That’s where you get the often criticized penumbras language like it’s some fucking gotcha like we’re subject to an ancient logic puzzle when the people writing this shit didn’t put that much thought into it. Some rights simply aren’t listed, like the right to travel, and the constitution is not a full list of rights, it even says so! buying into the textual or originalist arguments you get to manipulate legislative intent, definitions, common meaning, etc. these strictly speaking will inevitably lead to insane bullshit like the independent legislature theory. Because it can be a logical extension of the text itself and lawyers love that shit. but fortunately you don’t have to listen to that stuff when making a values argument because the law is a fiction, and scotus isn’t a logicians committee. So called legal experts are hacks. What is important is what the law does. And roe did great at protecting privacy and this the right to an abortion just fine. You don’t actually have to hand it to the regressives because the reasoning for overturning roe was irrelevant, it was a political move. Giving cover for so called poor reasoning is the ultimate cuck move. While I’m no fan of originalism, it can at least be said to fit into a (poor) understanding of human language. Textualism fails to even grasp what human language *is*, much less how it *works*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 America Is Growing Apart, Possibly for Good - The Atlantic WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM The great “convergence” of the mid-20th century may have been an anomaly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, skillzdadirecta said: America Is Growing Apart, Possibly for Good - The Atlantic WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM The great “convergence” of the mid-20th century may have been an anomaly. Okay but how do we make this happen already? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 Supreme Court asks Maryland, Virginia officials to stop people picketing at justices’ houses WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Protest activity and threatening behavior outside the homes of justices has increased since the draft Supreme Court abortion decision was leaked, the court's security chief said. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 29 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: Supreme Court asks Maryland, Virginia officials to stop people picketing at justices’ houses WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Protest activity and threatening behavior outside the homes of justices has increased since the draft Supreme Court abortion decision was leaked, the court's security chief said. Well they haven’t taken away the right to peaceful protest yet. So fuck you Republican judges and enjoy the fucking bed you made yourself. 🖕🏼🖕🏼 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LazyPiranha Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 10 hours ago, CitizenVectron said: Supreme Court asks Maryland, Virginia officials to stop people picketing at justices’ houses WWW.NBCNEWS.COM Protest activity and threatening behavior outside the homes of justices has increased since the draft Supreme Court abortion decision was leaked, the court's security chief said. No reason to picket a house if no one lives inside of it youknowwhatimean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 5, 2022 Share Posted July 5, 2022 On 7/3/2022 at 8:12 PM, skillzdadirecta said: America Is Growing Apart, Possibly for Good - The Atlantic WWW.THEATLANTIC.COM The great “convergence” of the mid-20th century may have been an anomaly. The mid-20th century political consensus in the United States that essentially formed around the Great Depression/World War II/Cold War was unquestionably a historical anomaly that effectively ended with the demise of the Soviet Union. From that point onward, it's been a steady reversion to the polarized mean that characterized nearly the entirety of the American political experiment. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Jason said: Please tell me this shit will get vetoed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: Please tell me this shit will get vetoed. Do you have a Dem governor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Quote The state constitution requires proposed amendments to pass both chambers in a two-year legislative session, then be advertised to the public before the next fall election. In the second round that follows, those proposals then must pass both chambers in the following two-year session. They would then go before voters as separate questions for the final say. Amendments do not require the governor’s support. In the debate Thursday night, Costa accused Republicans of turning to the constitutional amendment process as a way to avoid the veto of Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat. The bill is in its first two-year session so must be advertised three months ahead of the Nov. 8 election if the Republican majority wants to get it to voters during the 2023-24 session that starts in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 So even if it can't be vetoed by the governor, it wouldn't go into effect unless the voters approve it? Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, marioandsonic said: So even if it can't be vetoed by the governor, it wouldn't go into effect unless the voters approve it? Good to know. That's correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 These people do not deserve to live a quiet comfortable life. At best, anti social decisions should be met with regular public shunning. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: These people do not deserve to live a quiet comfortable life. At best, anti social decisions should be met with regular public shunning. They should be spit on every time they go out in public. They've lost that privilege. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, thewhyteboar said: They should be spit on every time they go out in public. They've lost that privilege. The right to not be spit on is curiously not in the constitution! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: These people do not deserve to live a quiet comfortable life. At best, anti social decisions should be met with regular public shunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodyHell Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: These people do not deserve to live a quiet comfortable life. At best, anti social decisions should be met with regular public shunning. Also Manchin and Sinema. At this point, theres very little suffering they don't deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted July 8, 2022 Author Share Posted July 8, 2022 People should be using airhorns outside their residences every night from now until 2077. Use drones so that it's harder to get caught. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 This is the intersection of My interests that only twitter replies can provide 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Found a link to this while reading an article on court oversight. I say if the court resorts to ISL to overthrow a legitimate Democratic victory, the Dems fight back by invoking departmentalism. I mean, the republic is essentially over at that point anyway. What would be left to lose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 On 7/10/2022 at 10:22 AM, Signifyin(g)Monkey said: What would be left to lose? Civility and bipartisanship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ominous Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, Jason said: Civility and bipartisanship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 Sometimes you see a tweet and just know a friend needs to read it it today @b_m_b_m_b_m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 48 minutes ago, sblfilms said: Sometimes you see a tweet and just know a friend needs to read it it today @b_m_b_m_b_m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anathema- Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 then what's textualism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Anathema- said: then what's textualism Tarot cards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberon Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Can Democrats expand the size of supreme court if they control the Senate or do they also need to hold the house for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Oberon said: Can Democrats expand the size of supreme court if they control the Senate or do they also need to hold the house for that? They would need the house senate and presidency they’d also have to want to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oberon Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 17 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: They would need the house senate and presidency they’d also have to want to do it So better chance than 3 months ago but still slim to none of realistically happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 44 minutes ago, Oberon said: So better chance than 3 months ago but still slim to none of realistically happening P much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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