mclumber1 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Comparing inflation YoY to 2020 is some lulzy shit. Gee, I wonder if anything happened last year to wildly curtail the expected rate of inflation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 It's also dumb to discount inflation, as it is hitting the poor and middle class extremely hard. Inflation could very well be a huge part of what decides the 22 and 24 elections. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhyteboar Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I mean, inflation was already decided as being something that was going to be a huge part of the 22/24 elections. It’s been teased out as soon as Trump lost. So we were always going to be forced to talk about it for the next few years no matter what happens. Seems dumb right now cuz pandemic stuff but wether we have a problem with it or not, yeah we can’t discount it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 33 minutes ago, Chris- said: Comparing inflation YoY to 2020 is some lulzy shit. Gee, I wonder if anything happened last year to wildly curtail the expected rate of inflation! Yep. For all we know we're returning to 2019 price levels. We went through a massive deflationary event last year! But none of the reporting I've seen thus far keeps this context. Does this mean that inflation and fears of inflation should be discounted? No, but the irresponsible reporting isn't helping anyone. There's probably some inflation but we could manage it a lot better if we legalized the production of dense housing in our metro areas connected by mass transit and other transportation alternatives to cars. Food and cars also seem to have issues in particular due to the pandemic (remember infections and deaths in meat packing facilities? I'd assume this is harming the labor pool regardless of pay! and cars have the same microprocessor issues that everyone is having due to demand and the supply issues due to the pandemic) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 53 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: Yep. For all we know we're returning to 2019 price levels. We went through a massive deflationary event last year! But none of the reporting I've seen thus far keeps this context. The 2020 inflation rate wasn’t even the lowest in the last decade though, and even taking the highest rate of the last decade and comparing the delta between that and the annualized rates we are seeing this year, 2021 is at the top of the chart for most of our lifetimes. There are certainly good questions to ask about what is the cause, or more likely causes, and whether or not the ballooning inflation is worth it for the benefits of those causes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Actually I have an idea to fix inflation, and I don’t know if anyone is going to run on this or not but what if we just gave more money to rich people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I need to replace my 2009 car so I started some car shopping and mother of god, the price of a car is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I mean, it seems to my dumb, uneducated mind that the two main causes of inflation (in this order) are: Global supply chain issues/shortages caused by the pandemic Spending caused by the pandemic This isn't to brush aside concerns about how this inflation is going to affect regular people (because it is), but for people slamming current governments over this inflation, the question needs to be: what could have been done differently/better to prevent this inflation? Because as far as I see, there isn't much. Yes, spending could have been better controlled in specific circumstances (made more efficient, etc). But getting money out to people quickly was of utmost importance. And, as the great resignation shows, the financial aids weren't the cause of people not returning to shitty jobs. The implication of much of the criticism of current inflation is that anti-virus efforts are to blame (which is certainly true), and that they shouldn't have been undertaken. I'm not talking about criticism from people going "wow gas is high, this sucks," I'm talking about the pundits, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Inflation is primarily being caused by consumers buying more goods than services because of the pandemic. We have been told this is transitory, but it’s not unless that means 2-5 years. Inflation will be here with us until we scale up our ports and fill job positions related to logistics. The transitory conventional wisdom is probably wrong, or maybe I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: I need to replace my 2009 car so I started some car shopping and mother of god, the price of a car is ridiculous. We almost bought a Rav 4 a couple of months ago. It was 50k out the door. Like wtf? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (new cars are luxury items anymore) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, Joe said: We almost bought a Rav 4 a couple of months ago. It was 50k out the door. Like wtf? average transaction price on a new car is 45k now, that is outright insanity to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Joe said: We almost bought a Rav 4 a couple of months ago. It was 50k out the door. Like wtf? “Well you qualified for 0% for 72 months so the payment is only $650! What a steal. What do you mean you don’t want a 6 year loan? Depreciation is overrated. It’s basically free money.” We looked at VW, Kia, and Hyundai and came away shocked at the quotes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 40 minutes ago, Massdriver said: Inflation is primarily being caused by consumers buying more goods than services because of the pandemic. We have been told this is transitory, but it’s not unless that means 2-5 years. Inflation will be here with us until we scale up our ports and fill job positions related to logistics. The transitory conventional wisdom is probably wrong, or maybe I am. I will say it is deeper than transportation and logistics jobs. We basically took the 2019 economy but with the labor market(prime age participation rate and U6 unemployment) of the late 2017 early 2018 era. We've removed 3 million people from the labor market! (& only a fraction of that number is directly from covid illness and death) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, b_m_b_m_b_m said: I will say it is deeper than transportation and logistics jobs. We basically took the 2019 economy but with the labor market(prime age participation rate and U6 unemployment) of the late 2017 early 2018 era. We've removed 3 million people from the labor market! (& only a fraction of that number is directly from covid illness and death) It is. There’s a cultural issue that’s deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodger Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 As much as I love it I want to get rid of my luxo murder truck Jason would hate because I rarely drive anymore but used car prices are nuts and I can’t bring myself to pay a ton for a relative bucket. But I should figure something out soon and start saving some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finaljedi Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 hours ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: I need to replace my 2009 car so I started some car shopping and mother of god, the price of a car is ridiculous. When the pandemic hit I did regret buying a brand new Mazda 3 in July of 2019, considering my commute when from a round trip of 60 miles a day to nothing. I just checked, it's only lost $1000 in value in two years, which is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclumber1 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 If you have time to decide, I'd recommend special ordering a car instead of buying one off the lot. Special orders are less susceptible to insane dealer markups, and some dealerships even make it a point to sell at MSRP for ordered vehicles. You'll have to wait though - I ordered a Ford Maverick back in June, and I'll be lucky if I get it in November. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 I have a 2013 Focus which I paid off in 2018 or 2019. Since then I've just been dumping the same amount as my monthly payment into a high-interest savings account (between 1.5% and 2.5% interest). So, I now have enough cash to effectively buy a used car whenever I want to. I was planning on doing that this year (and getting a 2-or-3-year-old Toyota or Honda sedan), but now the prices on used cars are also through the roof. So, I'll keep saving, and hopefully my car continues to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I have a 2013 Focus which I paid off in 2018 or 2019. Since then I've just been dumping the same amount as my monthly payment into a high-interest savings account (between 1.5% and 2.5% interest). So, I now have enough cash to effectively buy a used car whenever I want to. I was planning on doing that this year (and getting a 2-or-3-year-old Toyota or Honda sedan), but now the prices on used cars are also through the roof. So, I'll keep saving, and hopefully my car continues to run. I may consider this once things get better for me. I kinda want a new car but I don't actually want a car note. My 2012 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid is still going strong so it might just be better to ride it until the wheels fall off. More money for space marines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marioandsonic Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, CitizenVectron said: I have a 2013 Focus which I paid off in 2018 or 2019. Since then I've just been dumping the same amount as my monthly payment into a high-interest savings account (between 1.5% and 2.5% interest). So, I now have enough cash to effectively buy a used car whenever I want to. I was planning on doing that this year (and getting a 2-or-3-year-old Toyota or Honda sedan), but now the prices on used cars are also through the roof. So, I'll keep saving, and hopefully my car continues to run. My car is a 2012 Focus that I paid off in 2016. I'm hoping it can last me at least a couple more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 unless they decided to put an expiration date on your cars a 12-13 car should be fine for years to come unless you’re putting massive miles on it and taking care of the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastlevaniaNut18 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I’ll be keeping my 2017 Colorado for a while. 38k miles. I’m good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I'm driving my 2003 until it dies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69los Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I luckily bought my 2018 Kona in January 2020. Haven't put as much mileage as I would have because the lockdown and WFH for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokra Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2007 Prius with 265,000 miles, checking in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Got 125k on my wife's fit My van has a cool 8.6k since I got it in April Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 MBS, like his ally of right wing Israelis, are openly pro-GOP and will do anything do ensure that the GOP regains power for their own regional power plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signifyin(g)Monkey Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Dollar’s actually on an uptrend after a big dip earlier in the year following the early 2021 USD ‘dead cat bounce’. If we’re lucky that means this is transitory. A lot of the inflation is partially related to the earlier devaluation, IMO, which started during the COVID recession and exacerbated the inflationary pressures fomented by disruptions in supply chains and the labor market. Whatever the case ends up being, it’s interesting to see the tame reaction to the Fed’s preliminary round of tightening. They just tapered their QE operations and the markets barely blinked. That wasn’t the case the last time they tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Republicans are ecstatic that Biden is struggling with inflation: 'This is a gold mine for us' WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Democrats can't do much to fight inflation right now. This is good news for Republicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b_m_b_m_b_m Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Jason said: Republicans are ecstatic that Biden is struggling with inflation: 'This is a gold mine for us' WWW.BUSINESSINSIDER.COM Democrats can't do much to fight inflation right now. This is good news for Republicans. "We don't have to make things up whole cloth! We just have to exaggerate them!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 "This Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor couldn't have come at a better time for us. It will allow us to really hammer on FDR's weaknesses." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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