Joe Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Hudson County is the most corrupt county in the country. Like when you think of NJ corruption, that’s mainly Hudson County lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Joe said: The three of us are meeting up one day at a Portuguese restaurant in the Ironbound. It is settled. Whenever I go see a Redbull game, I eat at the Adega Grill before or after. 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: Nice. My parents just moved to Maplewood this summer and my mom worked for Prudential back when I was a kid. Maplewood is great and has a cool little downtown. We picked Millburn over it solely due to taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: Whenever I go see a Redbull game, I eat at the Adega Grill before or after. Maplewood is great and has a cool little downtown. We picked Millburn over it solely due to taxes. Didn't know you watch RB games. I go to Maplewood for the hobby store they have. Also my therapist's office is in Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: "The economy" was cited as the #1 issue in the VA exit polls, so I'd say that's an accurate assessment. If people actually think the CRT stuff is what is turning people on the ruling party, they simply aren’t paying attention. There is a pretty constant hum now about how expensive the basic necessities of life are getting. As long as the GOP isn’t actively alienating working class people, they are going to win a lot of races over the next year just on the real world experiences of working class people. Things certainly can change both in terms of the economic reality and the approach of the GOP, but the path to winning big in 22 is a pretty straight one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zaku3 said: Didn't know you watch RB games. I go to Maplewood for the hobby store they have. Also my therapist's office is in Union. My company used to have season tickets and my brother worked at the MLS so I used to get a ton of free tickets. I actually got to visit the stadium under construction to pick the seats for the season tickets. I don’t go as much since I have a child but we always had a good time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris- Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, sblfilms said: As long as the GOP isn’t actively alienating working class people, they are going to win a lot of races over the next year just on the real world experiences of working class people. They are doing a marvelous job at alienating the working class; the problem is that they've done an even better job of redefining what the 'working class' is for a not-insignificant portion of the electorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I lived in Maplewood for a year like about a decade ago. Lot of former Maplewood inhabitants itt lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ManUtdRedDevils said: Only ads I have seen are Murphy hates elderly and love taxes and Jack is a Trumper and hates affordable drugs. I don’t think most people know any of their policies. It is no longer needed to get elected unfortunately This POS is all I see from him. I've seen super pac ones too, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skillzdadirecta Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Chris- said: They are doing a marvelous job at alienating the working class; the problem is that they've done an even better job of redefining what the 'working class' is for a not-insignificant portion of the electorate. Working class = White because you know, only white people actually work in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Chris- said: They are doing a marvelous job at alienating the working class; the problem is that they've done an even better job of redefining what the 'working class' is for a not-insignificant portion of the electorate. In modern times that generally refers to non 4 year degree holders, though certainly there are people who are working class with 4 year degrees and non working class people without. But as a general principle, it is an effective way to make the distinction. If you compare 2020 to 2021, you can see the non-4 year degree demo is where the GOP candidates made their gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 I actually think this is one of the primary reasons between the difference in success in Canada vs US for the left/right. In Canada centre-left/left-wing parties (if we count Liberal and NDP) do the best in low-income groups, and then also high-education groups. What makes this more successful in Canada (as far as I understand it) is that Canada has a higher % of people with university education, so the pool of high-education voters is simply larger, providing a bigger base for the left. What we've seen in the past 20 years is that low-income is splitting between the left and right, with low-income rural going right, and low-income urban going left. I think the same is pretty true in the US as well, from what I understand. Mind you, I think (from memory) that Canada is also more urban than the US. So that could account for a difference in success as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, CitizenVectron said: I actually think this is one of the primary reasons between the difference in success in Canada vs US for the left/right. In Canada centre-left/left-wing parties (if we count Liberal and NDP) do the best in low-income groups, and then also high-education groups. What makes this more successful in Canada (as far as I understand it) is that Canada has a higher % of people with university education, so the pool of high-education voters is simply larger, providing a bigger base for the left. What we've seen in the past 20 years is that low-income is splitting between the left and right, with low-income rural going right, and low-income urban going left. I think the same is pretty true in the US as well, from what I understand. Mind you, I think (from memory) that Canada is also more urban than the US. So that could account for a difference in success as well. I’m not 100% sure, but I believe the US and Canada have nearly identical rates of 4 year and masters level educational attainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CitizenVectron Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, sblfilms said: I’m not 100% sure, but I believe the US and Canada have nearly identical rates of 4 year and masters level educational attainment. I found this: Not a giant difference, but probably enough to make a few % difference in elections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 @ManUtdRedDevils @Joe @Spork3245 @skillzdadirecta @Zaku3 AP just called for Murphy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: @ManUtdRedDevils @Joe @Spork3245 @skillzdadirecta @Zaku3 AP just called for Murphy. So my asshole can finally unclench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, LazyPiranha said: So my asshole can finally unclench? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyPiranha Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 And now for some post election FB cope. Quote Unfortunately the "normal" hard working citizens waved bye-bye to NJ last 2 years and moved to Florida and took their vote with them. Time to leave Socialist NJ before they bleed us dry of all our funds. NJ, a state of takers.....shameful. Quote NJ the CUBA of the North eastern USA. Quote What no recounts. Nothing but a crooked election. All who voted for him, Newark, Camden, Trenton enjoy living in poverty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 23 minutes ago, Commissar SFLUFAN said: Yes. deweybeatstruman.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Just now, Zaku3 said: The only people stupider than Democratic politicians are their voters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skillzdadirecta Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Zaku3 said: What no recounts. Nothing but a crooked election. All who voted for him, Newark, Camden, Trenton enjoy living in poverty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaku3 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, skillzdadirecta said: I felt left out since they didn't mention Paterson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Xbob42 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Why do people keep expecting politicians to pull them out of poverty anywhere in the U.S.? To "lower the prices" of things? When has this ever happened on either side? The best I've ever seen is maybe some rent control (that has to be fought for over and over again in the few places that have it) and social programs that you basically have to fight a war to get in a completely battered state and then get challenged again and again and again. Is there some magical place in the U.S. where politicians are lowering poverty rates by a substantial numbers and enacting lots of social reform programs? Because one side is really good at doing as little as possible so as to not offend the other side, and said other side just likes big trucks and truck nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Xbob42 said: Why do people keep expecting politicians to pull them out of poverty anywhere in the U.S.? To "lower the prices" of things? When has this ever happened on either side? Things like stimulus checks absolutely help pull people out of poverty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Xbob42 said: Why do people keep expecting politicians to pull them out of poverty anywhere in the U.S.? To "lower the prices" of things? When has this ever happened on either side? The best I've ever seen is maybe some rent control (that has to be fought for over and over again in the few places that have it) and social programs that you basically have to fight a war to get in a completely battered state and then get challenged again and again and again. Is there some magical place in the U.S. where politicians are lowering poverty rates by a substantial numbers and enacting lots of social reform programs? Because one side is really good at doing as little as possible so as to not offend the other side, and said other side just likes big trucks and truck nuts. FDR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 4 hours ago, Xbob42 said: Why do people keep expecting politicians to pull them out of poverty anywhere in the U.S.? To "lower the prices" of things? When has this ever happened on either side? The best I've ever seen is maybe some rent control (that has to be fought for over and over again in the few places that have it) and social programs that you basically have to fight a war to get in a completely battered state and then get challenged again and again and again. Is there some magical place in the U.S. where politicians are lowering poverty rates by a substantial numbers and enacting lots of social reform programs? Because one side is really good at doing as little as possible so as to not offend the other side, and said other side just likes big trucks and truck nuts. To be frank, most people aren’t worried about the people living in poverty when they advocate for better social programs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Kal-El814 said: Things like stimulus checks absolutely help pull people out of poverty. I might agree if they were a regular thing. I struggle to see many scenarios in which receiving a one-time (or 3-time) check for a few hundred smackaroos is gonna fix your life. Keep you steady for a bit maybe, I guess, if you get the check at the right time. I see it more like it yo-yos you out and back into poverty. UBI on the other hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ort Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 The ongoing child tax credit will be a huge deal for a lot of people. It's $250 per kid just deposited straight into your account every month. If you live on the edge of a financial razor month to month that sort of thing can change your entire life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar SFLUFAN Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I realize that he's won, but Murphy is ahead by 40,000 votes with still 12% left to report so while it's not gonna be anywhere near the landslide/blowout that the polls were predicting, it could very well be a pretty comfortable win for him when all is said and done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal-El814 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 21 minutes ago, Xbob42 said: I might agree if they were a regular thing. I struggle to see many scenarios in which receiving a one-time (or 3-time) check for a few hundred smackaroos is gonna fix your life. Keep you steady for a bit maybe, I guess, if you get the check at the right time. I see it more like it yo-yos you out and back into poverty. UBI on the other hand... Stimulus checks and the like may not keep people out of poverty in perpetuity but they help. I don’t think they’re enough and am absolutely in favor of UBI but one time payments do make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbob42 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, ort said: The ongoing child tax credit will be a huge deal for a lot of people. It's $250 per kid just deposited straight into your account every month. If you live on the edge of a financial razor month to month that sort of thing can change your entire life. Yes, this is definitely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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