stepee Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 https://videocardz.com/77983/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-official-performance-unveiled Nvidia numbers from their reviewers guide, so grain of salt and all that. But if that is about correct, then things look pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 14, 2018 Author Share Posted September 14, 2018 I'm not surprised by these numbers, as they basically fall in line with what I was expecting from a raw FPS bump between generations. On the Titan V, I'm running Shadow of the Tomb Raider at around 55FPS, fully maxed out in 4K. So to see the 2080ti edge it out by a few frames seems right, as that puts it at around 40-50% than a 1080ti. For reference, the Titan V is about 25-30% faster than the 1080ti. I can say that I'm truly impressed with just how shitty Mass Effect: Andromeda runs! Well done Bioware! Even next gen's cards can't quite run it properly. ahem, can't wait for DLSS patch on some of these games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Hey the 2080ti finally hits 60 on Andromeda! But yeah, lol. If these numbers hold up, it’s exactlt what I wanted to see, put in any current game, turn up all the settings in 4k, and good to go at 60fps. I plan to oc it more than they do in the stock, so should eek out a few extra frames on things like tomb raider, again, if these are accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusideabelincoln Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: And PC Gamer has a "Deep" dive into the Turing Architecture as well: https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-turing-architecture-deep-dive/?utm_content=buffera55d9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-pcgamertw Quote Mesh shaders are the next iteration of vertex, geometry, and tessellation shaders. The main idea here is to move LOD (Level of Detail) calculations from the CPU and onto the GPU. This can improve performance by orders of magnitude, and Nvidia showed a demonstration of a ship flying through a massive asteroid field with mesh shaders allowing for the real-time use of 'trillions' of polygons. The catch is that the LOD scaling culls that down to a more manageable number, in the millions instead of trillions. Mesh shaders will be an extension to existing graphics APIs for now, so they're less likely to see widespread use until/unless they're directly integrated into the DIrectX/Vulkan APIs, but the demo looked very cool. This needs to be implemented ASAP. Higher performance, less pop-in, and, hopefully, fewer microstuttering scenarios? Yes please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 14 hours ago, stepee said: Hey the 2080ti finally hits 60 on Andromeda! But yeah, lol. If these numbers hold up, it’s exactlt what I wanted to see, put in any current game, turn up all the settings in 4k, and good to go at 60fps. I plan to oc it more than they do in the stock, so should eek out a few extra frames on things like tomb raider, again, if these are accurate. I'm hoping DLSS takes it up to around 70FPs (obviously without RT). OH, side note, I can't enable HDR in shadow of the tomb raider. IT stays greyed out, do you have this issue? Edit: never mind, I figured it out! You need to turn HDR on at the windows level before you start the game launcher, for whatever reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 2080Ti "general availabiility" has been delayed a week to the 27th. 2080 still coming out on the 20th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 @stepee Hi Everyone, Wanted to give you an update on the GeForce RTX 2080 Ti availability. GeForce RTX 2080 Ti general availability has shifted to September 27th, a one week delay. We expect pre-orders to arrive between September 20th and September 27th.There is no change to GeForce RTX 2080 general availability, which is September 20th. We're eager for you to enjoy the new GeForce RTX family! Thanks for your patience. https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/09/14/nvidia_geforce_rtx_2080_ti_availability_update/ Sounds like we pre-order folks go first then online retailers , but maybe they are shipping in waves? I suppose a lucky few will actually get their's on launch day, so who knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 here is a nice write up on the various DLSS modes and their respective benefits: https://wccftech.com/nvidia-dlss-explained-nvidia-ngx/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Vic20 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Share Posted September 15, 2018 The new thing I learned from that video is that HDR is now handled at the hardware level, which is great as it causes an actual performance hit on Pascal and before. Good stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-delays-rtx-2080-ti-general-availability-by-a-week/ Hopefully those of us who preordered in the first few minutes still get theirs around the same timeline we expected but @Mr.Vic20 we do need to brace ourselves for another week Also, again we are still using huge grains of salt here and don’t know exactly how this relates to fps but: Look at that number over the Titan V. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 16, 2018 Author Share Posted September 16, 2018 It’s gonna be a looong week man! As for those benches, they confuse me, but in a good way so I want to believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: It’s gonna be a looong week man! As for those benches, they confuse me, but in a good way so I want to believe? I must have missed this. Didn't you just buy a $3,000 video card 8 months ago? That is just as powerful as this one? Or did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, mikechorney said: I must have missed this. Didn't you just buy a $3,000 video card 8 months ago? That is just as powerful as this one? Or did I miss something? Actually, if the benches are to be believed, this card is a touch more powerful than the Titan V in raw rasterization. But that’s not what i’M excited about, but rather I want to experience the new features that the Turing architecture brings to the table. I love new tech, and am endlessly curious to mess about with it when it becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, mikechorney said: I must have missed this. Didn't you just buy a $3,000 video card 8 months ago? That is just as powerful as this one? Or did I miss something? You arw slightly off. This is going to be more powerful than the 3k card he bought 8 months ago. His card was never meant to be a gaming card though. He is just insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbk_3 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I ordered a EVGA SC2 1080ti. I couldn't justify the extra cost for features I don't care about and a just a minor power increase. Cost me $912 all in, 2080 would have cost $1243 all in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Ray traced games won't launch with Nvidia's GeForce RTX graphics cards I've also heard Linus make the same comment that there were no games for them to test Ray Tracing on. That even though SotTR was out, the patch to implement Ray Tracing wasn't.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, mikechorney said: Ray traced games won't launch with Nvidia's GeForce RTX graphics cards I've also heard Linus make the same comment that there were no games for them to test Ray Tracing on. That even though SotTR was out, the patch to implement Ray Tracing wasn't.. Yes, its true! I also expect we won't see the DLSS support out of the gate either. The whole launch seems like Nvidia only recently bothered to let others know what they we up to regarding the new tech. Which totally sounds like Nvidia's typical half baked launches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Yes, its true! I also expect we won't see the DLSS support out of the gate either. The whole launch seems like Nvidia only recently bothered to let others know what they we up to regarding the new tech. Which totally sounds like Nvidia's typical half baked launches. In this case it sounds like MS is the holdup since it depends on DirectX. Working on top of DirectX sounds like the right move, and ideally, Nvidia would have timed the release, but that may have been difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, legend said: In this case it sounds like MS is the holdup since it depends on DirectX. Working on top of DirectX sounds like the right move, and ideally, Nvidia would have timed the release, but that may have been difficult. I hope its true and not their usual Brilliant engineering married to sloppy corporate habits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 And here come the reviews: https://wccftech.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-and-rtx-2080-review/19/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/09/nvidia-rtx-2080-and-2080-ti-review-a-tale-of-two-very-expensive-graphics-cards/ https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-founders-edition,5809.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#xtor=RSS-5 https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-founders-edition-review/?utm_content=bufferf7901&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-pcgamertw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Nice. I would still love to see DLSS and ray tracing in the wild, but as far as regular rasterization, that's what I was expecting/hoping to see confirmed. Now it's a question of when I will get one and whether I go 2080 or 2080Ti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spork3245 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Wtf? The Ti is still under or barely above 60fps on most current (big) titles in 4k...? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Wtf? The Ti is still under or barely above 60fps on most current (big) titles in 4k...? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TR uses hair works, which is the new Crysis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: TR uses hair works, which is the new Crysis! Even Deus Ex and AC:O are barely acceptable, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Hmmm... I'm debating if this is actually worth a $3k upgrade (I'll need a new monitor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, Spork3245 said: Even Deus Ex and AC:O are barely acceptable, though. 4K is seriously hard. I don't think people understand just how hard it is, but well, it is. DLSS and/or techniques like it will be essential to ever seeing 8K. 4K gaming for everyone starts in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: Hmmm... I'm debating if this is actually worth a $3k upgrade (I'll need a new monitor). Depends on what monitor you have today... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Spork3245 said: Hmmm... I'm debating if this is actually worth a $3k upgrade (I'll need a new monitor). The fact that you are debating it means the vase is on the edge of the table my friend...push it, push it REAL good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: 4K is seriously hard. I don't think people understand just how hard it is, but well, it is. DLSS and/or techniques like it will be essential to ever seeing 8K. 4K gaming for everyone starts in 2020. I don't think we will see 4k gaming on mainstream cards/consoles in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, mikechorney said: I don't think we will see 4k gaming on mainstream cards/consoles in 2020. I think we will see 7nm cards by then that should allow for 4K/30 at a reasonable price. Granted, consoles would be crazy to not just keep using some form of checkerboard rendering but still, I can see 4K budget cards by this time, two years hence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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