Mr.Vic20 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, legend said: Given the potential, a lot of people are going to get real weird with it! To say nothing of the horrifying moments that will now be forever captured in beautiful, ray traced, Ansel! On some level, progress has never taken us more than a few steps from the cave's mouth... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Vic20 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/08/22/nvidia-turing-rtx-2080-performance-target-metro-exodus/ Ru-roh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 29 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/08/22/nvidia-turing-rtx-2080-performance-target-metro-exodus/ Ru-roh... No worries! With a Ti you'll be able to get 1920x1200! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: No worries! With a Ti you'll be able to get 1920x1200! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 If we take the earlier specs showing that this might be first line to safely handle regular raster games at 4K well, were you really expecting it'd not only manage that feat, but also do it with all the new stuff it enables too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 23, 2018 Author Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, legend said: If we take the earlier specs showing that this might be first line to safely handle regular raster games at 4K well, were you really expecting it'd not only manage that feat, but also do it with all the new stuff it enables too? YES!!! No. Maybe a little in my wildest dreams even though I know better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/08/22/nvidia-turing-rtx-2080-performance-target-metro-exodus/ Ru-roh… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 Enjoy this article that seems like it was written on a dare or after losing at some game of chance! Its cringe worthy to read, like watching a person who clearly doesn't believe what they are debating, debating the point anyway because that's the straw they picked! https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#xtor=RSS-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Enjoy this article that seems like it was written on a dare or after losing at some game of chance! Its cringe worthy to read, like watching a person who clearly doesn't believe what they are debating, debating the point anyway because that's the straw they picked! https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-rtx-gpus-worth-the-money,37689.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#xtor=RSS-5 I just read that before coming here. While I'm clearly in the camp of "I want this card to be a massive success!" (provisional on independent analysis) I completely agree. That was some weak sauce reasoning. Or at least a good chunk of it was. Particularly this paragraph: Quote Life is short. How many months or years do you want to wait to enjoy a new experience? You can sit around twiddling your thumbs and hoping that an RTX 2080 gets cheaper, or you can enter the world of ray-tracing and high-speed, 4K gaming today and never look back. When you die and your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have ray tracing? The only thing that was at all interesting was the suggestion that Nvidia might be deliberately pricing the 20 series a bit higher to pawn off the extra stock of 10 series they have from previously expecting more crypto miners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 What a poorly written article. I don't think you can write something like this until we have benchmarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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atom631 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It’s a shame actually to see this nonsense. The price of these GPUs is insane. In a age where console hardware is getting closer and closer to being a full blown PC, this just proves the value proposition isn’t there. I would be great to see PC gamers boycott this like they do every other game that comes out that isn’t perfectly ported or contains some monitization scheme they don’t agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 BUT WAIT, IT GETS WORSE!!! Up those CPUs as well people!!! As per Dice: https://www.pcgamesn.com/how-dice-made-nvidias-ray-tracing-dreams-a-reality And to be able to run such an intensive game engine, with such a demanding new feature, has meant the hardware requirements outside of just the GPU have had to change. “What we have done with our DXR implementation is we go very wide on a lot of cores to offload that work, so we’re likely going to require a higher minimum or recommended spec for producing RT. And very wide is the best way for the consumer in that regard, with a four-core or six-core machine. “We haven’t communicated any of the specs yet so they might change, but I think that a six-core machine – it doesn’t have to be aggressively clocked – but 12 hardware threads is what we kind of designed it for. But it might also work well on a higher clocked eight thread machine.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr.Vic20 said: BUT WAIT, IT GETS WORSE!!! Up those CPUs as well people!!! As per Dice: https://www.pcgamesn.com/how-dice-made-nvidias-ray-tracing-dreams-a-reality And to be able to run such an intensive game engine, with such a demanding new feature, has meant the hardware requirements outside of just the GPU have had to change. “What we have done with our DXR implementation is we go very wide on a lot of cores to offload that work, so we’re likely going to require a higher minimum or recommended spec for producing RT. And very wide is the best way for the consumer in that regard, with a four-core or six-core machine. “We haven’t communicated any of the specs yet so they might change, but I think that a six-core machine – it doesn’t have to be aggressively clocked – but 12 hardware threads is what we kind of designed it for. But it might also work well on a higher clocked eight thread machine.” Glad I future proofed myself when i got my 12 threads i7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, stepee said: Glad I future proofed myself when i got my 12 threads i7 @Mr.Vic20 gifted me 16 threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 25, 2018 Author Share Posted August 25, 2018 So, you guys think I'll be good with a gen 2 threadripper?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: So, you guys think I'll be good with a gen 2 threadripper?! Throw that pos out and get a cyrix, yo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardAct Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 6:12 AM, legend said: There's a damn good chance that the 2080 will be my next video card. 2080 Ti is my next card period end of story, so excited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 hours ago, HardAct said: 2080 Ti is my next card period end of story, so excited! Assuming independent reviews confirm what I'm expecting, I'll get either a 2080 or 2080Ti. Not sure yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 I really want to get the 2080Ti. It'll be good for a handful of years for me since I'm still at 1440 and not 4K yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 18 minutes ago, Brick said: I really want to get the 2080Ti. It'll be good for a handful of years for me since I'm still at 1440 and not 4K yet. If you are sticking with 1440P, then I would recommend picking up a 1080ti as it should run anything at that res perfectly! Of course if you want to mess around with Ray tracing, you'll need the 2080ti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 And at 1440p you’ll probably be able to run ray tracing a lot better than Vic and I who will be spending the month after ray tracing support hits the first game trying to find the right settings compromise for some proximity to 4k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, stepee said: And at 1440p you’ll probably be able to run ray tracing a lot better than Vic and I who will be spending the month after ray tracing support hits the first game trying to find the right settings compromise for some proximity to 4k! The right settings for 4k = rtx off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: The right settings for 4k = rtx off idk I’m thinking for something like tomb raider maybe 1800p/30 or something like that, we will see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 hours ago, stepee said: And at 1440p you’ll probably be able to run ray tracing a lot better than Vic and I who will be spending the month after ray tracing support hits the first game trying to find the right settings compromise for some proximity to 4k! Isn't the answer obvious? Buy 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, stepee said: idk I’m thinking for something like tomb raider maybe 1800p/30 or something like that, we will see! 30fps?!?!? When did you go plebeian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: If you are sticking with 1440P, then I would recommend picking up a 1080ti as it should run anything at that res perfectly! Of course if you want to mess around with Ray tracing, you'll need the 2080ti. Of course I want to mess around with ray tracing! I want to be able to see the reflection of someone trying to sneak up on me in Battlefield V and turn around and shotgun him in the face! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Let’s all start wondering about the very real possibility of, shudder, SLI. I wonder if NVLink will solve any of the historic issues that SLI brings to the table. If it does, I might be running dual 2080ti this gen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Let’s all start wondering about the very real possibility of, shudder, SLI. I wonder if NVLink will solve any of the historic issues that SLI brings to the table. If it does, I might be running dual 2080ti this gen! I think $2400 is where I draw my line, but your crazy ass bought a titan v so it’s a steal for you! I think what nvlink will solve is going to be getting closer to using the full capability of each card (minus being able to use the vram of each card) and hopefully fix frame pacing issues. What it won’t solve however is support issues. No way will I go sli again unless they somehow get it working in a way that’s not per game basis driver level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, stepee said: I think $2400 is where I draw my line, but your crazy ass bought a titan v so it’s a steal for you! I think what nvlink will solve is going to be getting closer to using the full capability of each card (minus being able to use the beam of each card) and hopefully fix frame pacing issues. What it won’t solve however is support issues. No way will I go sli again unless they somehow get it working in a way that’s not per game basis driver level. Yeah, more than likely I’m just kidding myself. It would be nice to at least have the option, but I dread the idea of returning to a mGPU machine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 45 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Let’s all start wondering about the very real possibility of, shudder, SLI. I wonder if NVLink will solve any of the historic issues that SLI brings to the table. If it does, I might be running dual 2080ti this gen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I haven't had a chance to watch this yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Something I was thinking about, if AMD doesn't incorporate ray tracing into their next cards and as a result the next gen consoles don't have it how big a deal is it going to end up being? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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