Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, stepee said: Looks like next gen starts this year! HOLD ME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I blame the tariffs. This surely isn’t all green greed! Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 holy fuck @ battlefield 5 with rtx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: I blame the tariffs. This surely isn’t all green greed! Reveal hidden contents Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents Hide contents Times in history that someone blamed Trump for something and it wasn't actually 100% true -> now up to 1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, stepee said: holy fuck @ battlefield 5 with rtx Oh damn! Now I have a reason to buy BFV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Mr.Vic20 said: Times in history that someone blamed Trump for something and it wasn't actually 100% true -> now up to 1! Sift the spoiler tags young padawan. The mind trick will be revealed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Stuff like this can and has been faked with simple texture tricks for ages now. Like PhysX, the performance hit of something like this can be substantial, I fear. Yes, NVIDIA created raytracing units inside the GPU to achieve these effects in an effort to keep the rest of the GPU from diverting resources, but the rendering pipeline still has to wait on those units to finish calculations before outputting a finished frame, which means you can still get nasty stalls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Seriously, though, any word on HDMI version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spork3245 said: Seriously, though, any word on HDMI version? 2.0b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spork3245 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, mikechorney said: 2.0b PASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Reputator said: Stuff like this can and has been faked with simple texture tricks for ages now. Like PhysX, the performance hit of something like this can be substantial, I fear. Yes, NVIDIA created raytracing units inside the GPU to achieve these effects in an effort to keep the rest of the GPU from diverting resources, but the rendering pipeline still has to wait on those units to finish calculations before outputting a finished frame, which means you can still get nasty stalls. It certainly is a very real possibility. Again, I wonder if this is Hair works all over again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispy4000 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: It certainly is a very real possibility. Again, I wonder if this is Hair works all over again! Having so many different models worries me too. It's standard practice, I know. But I have to wonder if that $499 card will really be up to snuff for what its advertised for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 55 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Just point to me and be like "honey look, I'm not as patently irresponsible as this jerk! All I'm asking for is this MUCH more reasonably priced card here!" If I looked that good in leather jackets I’d charge $1500 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, mikechorney said: $$$$$ I still need to watch the stream. But fuck those prices. Actually, the pain will probably be on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, crispy4000 said: Having so many different models worries me too. It's standard practice, I know. But I have to wonder if that $499 card will really be up to snuff for what its advertised for. Oh, it absolutely will not! I mean, this is all lovely fan fare, but I can easily see it taking another whole generation before ray tracing, even using these "cheats" will get us where most consumers will have a good experience. This, to me, is Nvidia making a turn, but not coming out of it to fire down the straight away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 @Legend , Keep in mind these are "founders" pricing, the 3rd party card will be 100-200 cheaper...making them only slightly outrageous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutSurgen Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, legend said: I still need to watch the stream. But fuck those prices. Actually, the pain will probably be on the other side. Apparently the Non-founder's edition prices are slightly lower: 'Nvidia's event concluded by advertising prices "starting" at $499, $699, and $999, respectively for those same models—assumedly referring to video card partners producing their own models outside Nvidia's own Founders Edition line." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stepee Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I’m so fucking excited for this, I don’t even care that nothing will actually use it. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legend Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: @Legend , Keep in mind these are "founders" pricing, the 3rd party card will be 100-200 cheaper...making them only slightly outrageous! Ah good point. In that case, they've at least used lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 fuck those prices $600 for the 2070 they are out their minds. the xx70 are supposed to be the mainstream product, should be in the $300-$350 range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, stepee said: I’m so fucking excited for this, I don’t even care that nothing will actually use it. :P Apparently BFV, Metro Exodus, and Shadow of the Tomb Raider will, and that's a good enough start for me to be really excited! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, legend said: Ah good point. In that case, they've at least used lube. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, elbobo said: fuck those prices Intel can't jump into the game soon enough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSoxFan9 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, elbobo said: fuck those prices $600 for the 2070 they are out there mind. the xx70 are supposed to be the mainstream product, should be in the $300-$350 range That will be the 2060 or 2060 Ti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massdriver Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: Intel can't jump into the game soon enough! Exactly. With AMD MIA, nothing is stopping Nvidia from charging whatever they want. No one is challenging them, especially on the higher end. The rumor is AMD's Navi will only address the midrange; we are talking 2060/2070 performance at best. We have to wait until AMD's next gen architecture and whatever Intel brings to the table in 2020 before anyone even touches what the 2080 Ti can do. That sucks for people wanting to save $200 on a monitor that is freesync. I have no plans to switch to Nvidia when it would cost $700 to swap to a 2560x1440 gsync equivalent monitor + the price of the video card. Intel or AMD better give me something really nice in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reputator Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, RedSoxFan9 said: That will be the 2060 or 2060 Ti Or $400? You lower middle class bastards better start getting rich! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbobo Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 yeah I am sticking with my 1080@144 monitor for a while longer it seems. Oh well we really need hdmi 2.1 to hit TVs too, that is the next big change Buying a 9700pro back in the day has ruined me on videocard pricing, I bought it near launch for $330 and that was the best card money could buy at the time and murdered everything else, inflation adjusted that is about $460 in today's dollars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The 2080Ti will be mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneticBlueprint Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Lol those prices. Looks like I'll be buying a used 10XX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 What exactly is the difference with the Founder's Edition cards? Aren't they just the first ones released, and there is no spec difference, maybe only a cosmetic difference, so really you're paying an extra $200 just to say you got one first? Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Vic20 Posted August 20, 2018 Author Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Brick said: What exactly is the difference with the Founder's Edition cards? Aren't they just the first ones released, and there is no spec difference, maybe only a cosmetic difference, so really you're paying an extra $200 just to say you got one first? Is that right? They are Nvidia's own brand, that's it. They actually don't perform any better than the 3rd parties, in fact historically they are a touch slower after 3rd parties tweak theirs. But you get them sooner, usually by a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, Mr.Vic20 said: They are Nvidia's own brand, that's it. They actually don't perform any better than the 3rd parties, in fact historically they are a touch slower after 3rd parties tweak theirs. But you get them sooner, usually by a month. Yeah I can wait for someone like Gigabyte, or someone to release theirs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaethos Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 All of the 3rd party cards are either the same price (for the ti) or even more expensive. Many of the 2080 cards are priced at $850 and the lowest I've seen for the ti is $1150. I was going to go for one, but at these prices I have to see a major performance gain across the board over my 1080ti to even consider it. I'm very curious to see some benchmarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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